Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles Season 2 - Page 11

A third season with Cameron as a human for half the time would be sweet!

Him fingering her mechanical insides was a bit... weird. For a moment I actually thought they might go Cronenberg.

The Weavernator easily making short work of that T-800 was pretty badass.

Yeah T2 could have been very short had Patricknator thought of the same strategy!

I think I understand why Weaver told Future John "No" to joining them.

She figured out that they still would have lost to the machines even if she joined them. Thus, she went back in time to develop John Henry to fight Skynet. With John Henry, she could join the Resistance and give them all a fighting chance.

I doubt they will get renewed (though I heard rumors that the sets weren't actually torn down, they were put into storage...which would make sense if alot of the beginning of Season 3 takes place in the future) but if they did get renewed, it would be awesome seeing a future without John Connor. I find it amazing that they all survived without John or John Henry.

And what came back at the very end?

Where's John Henry?

Watching the second to last episode i thought Derek's death was one of the best in tv history. So unceremonious, so right for the character and the mythology they are exploring. But the finale cheapened that, the character wasn't written off, he was just going to be included in the "future".

Still a cool moment though.

While true, we already see young Derek in 2007(8). So it's not like it wasn't already established that there's still going to be a Derek in the future.

However, John's Derek is still dead.

On the other hand, Billy Wisher/Andy Goode wouldn't be in the future.

I didn't think that anyone/thing came back, per se. Just that it was the aftermath of John and Weaver's trip. But it'd be interesting if something did.

I don't think anything came back, it was just Sarah's voice saying I love you too I think. I'm not sure why they did it. *shrugs*

John Henry is somewhere in the future, and I think he's probably going to try and find his brother. It's the only thing he knows there. Though I have no idea why he time traveled in the first place. Just one of the mysteries that would be answered in Season 3.

I though Cameron was his "Brother"

Argh, i hate to have so many things hanging/unexplained.

One thing i'll say about the show, the cast was generally bad. Save for a few exceptions like Garret Dillahunt and Shirley Manson that made the show watchable. Thomas Dekker was HORRIBLE as John Connor, I never really bought Summer Glau and the dude playing Ellison has just one face and one tone. It was boring as fuck.

Where did you get that from? Did you miss the episode where John Henry got hacked? Weaver essentially insinuated that it was Skynet.

I didn't miss it. John Henry spent a couple of episodes saying that he felt someone like him. a "brother" consciousness or something like that. Asking if there were something like him, another Cyborg?. Then he sees Cameron and helps her through the prison break.

I dunno, thought they were implying he meant her. Could be wrong.

I couldn't agree more with this. I really think that the poor casting decisions are what ultimately killed this show; the actors were flat-out unwatchable.

What? Those two scenes were like four episodes apart. John Henry got hacked well before he even knew who Cameron was or helped with the prison break. Weaver asks John Henry if he knew what attacked him and JH says it was a highly intelligent AI and that it had a Cyberdyne logo in its code. I don't know how you could confuse that with Cameron.

I wasn't saying Cameron hacked John Henry. I never got the impression they were tying Skynet to be JH's Brother. But that "another cyborg" might be it. But as many things with this show, it was under developed and we'll never actually find out. Too bad, it was getting slightly interesting.

Well I agree with you on the second part.

I found this message board during a Google search and there's some pretty interesting stuff in here. Such as:

and

It may be a function of them not lasting, but I believe that Chromartie is the only Skynet terminator that has shown much initiative. For example, he takes out the Ellison Terminator because he calculates that Ellison would lead him to the Conners. Or using that one girl (Jody?) to try to find them.

Although Stark was pretty good too. How much is taking the most direct route to the target and doing anything to help with that, i.e. building the building because that's where the target would be in 2010, and how much of it is initiative to accomodate for an unforseen event?

Interesting interview with Brian Austin Green:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?p...ticle&id=20811

Anyone think that this might somehow tie into T4?
I mean, what is Marcus? A more advanced Cyborg who helps Humans. Metal Civil War?

That was pretty great. Thanks. Its good to get confirmation that the show is dealing with alternative time lines, that John is in a future where he never existed as the leader of the resistance, and the Cameron that we saw in the future was the human version of herself.

As for the acting, I thought it was uniformly quite good. Dillahunt's in a league of his own - I honestly would like him to show up in just about everything I watch... bad guy in LOST? Yes, please!

I thought Dekker carried the bulk of the show, especially near the end of the season, where John's maturation and loss of innocence really take center stage. Manson and the little girl playing her daughter produced some scenes so creepy that I know I'll remember them for years.

The actors who came off the worst are the ones who had less to do, or whose storylines seemed incomplete. We never really saw why Ellison would be helping what had to appear to him to be Skynet. Derek and Cameron were sidelined much of the season, but I thought both had really gripping scenes when they got the chance, with BAG pretty great once Jesse's plan went awry and Glau excellent once she started glitching and especially in the ep where she befriended the librarian.

Headey surprisingly came off as the weak link to me. Sarah's episodes seemed to be the weakest, and at times she seemed to emote less than Cameron. Her 'wry smile look' got overused, and when she had her big moments (like when trying to leave John with Charlie), the other actors carried the scenes.

But overall, I think the show was cast extremely well. What really killed it was the strike. TSCC premiered huge, but the strike prevented it from pairing with 24, which would have been a MASSIVE boost. Instead, it got teamed with the floundering PRISON BREAK, which just makes me hate that show even more - its suck was powerful enough to kill TWO shows! If not for the strike, TSCC would not have been up against football and dancing when it re-launched for season 2. It wouldn't have had any huge, devastating hiatuses either. Instead, it would have opened season 2 alongside 24, and likely be cruising towards season 3. The strike killed any momentum the show had, which was crippling to PUSHING DAISIES, CHUCK and LIFE as well. All four were successful pre-strike, and all four are now dead or on life support.

Yeah the strike basically killed or has nearly killed 4 quality, and all the sadder, very non-traditional shows.

Fucking sucks.

I just want to put this out there: If this show is cancelled (which it most likely is, but it's not entirely certain at this point) then FOX can suck my nuts. Not because they should pour money into a show that nobody watches, but because they managed to *not* sell a Terminator TV show to the general, TV-watching public. Fuck. Them.

The last episodes of T:TSCC were awesome, and they made the entirety of the season worthwile. It was plenty slow for a while, but I always figured it was building towards something cool. And it was.

God damn it. I was hoping they'd at least wait to see how well Terminator: Salvation did at the box office and try an capitalize on the attention.

WB should be trying to get this on their own network if possible. I think we'd all rather see that than another remake of a Aaron Spelling show.

Fuckers. They renewed that shit dollhouse over this? Fuck fox.

Shitty movie-tie in show that constantly broke every rule put forth in the movies to keep going beyond the point of believability? Terminated.

Disappointing, but not surprising.

Dollhouse, being owned by Fox, is extremely cheap to produce. Of course it's still believed to be the lowest-rated show -ever- renewed by one of the 4 major natworks. If one show was going to be saved by a miracle renewal, why couldn't it be one I enjoyed?

At any rate, Terminator fell victim to the strike, too many weak episodes, and even its strong episodes probably drove some people away with their surprising depth and intelligence.

And now I'll get to piss off some friends once it hits DVD, after I loan it to them and they reach the ending.

I'll miss Terminator, but the show has nothing but itself to blame. That "The Good Wound" / "Desert Cantos" / "Some Must Watch While Some Must Sleep" stretch hurt.

Yeah I don't even watch this show but even im suprised they cancelled this. I thought for sure when Dollhouse got renewed this would too. I sort of kind of like Dollhouse a little but I know how bad the rating were and honestly wouldn't have blamed FOX for cancelling it.