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Entourage Season 5

post #1 of 430
9/8/08 at 8:09pm
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Hey look, another show that eventually populated itself with unlikable characters who make insanely stupid decisions. And I as a viewer wish they would be smart not because I care about the characters, but because it would mean that they might advance the fucking plot.
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post #2 of 430
9/8/08 at 8:12pm
Do you think making MEDELLIN a huge bomb was their way of acknowledging how bad the show has been and getting back to what made it good? The beach stuff was a nice start. I just wish the show wasn't so caught up in its own dramas and soap operas. That's not what's interesting.
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post #3 of 430
9/8/08 at 8:14pm
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Originally Posted by devincf View Post
Do you think making MEDELLIN a huge bomb was their way of acknowledging how bad the show has been and getting back to what made it good? The beach stuff was a nice start. I just wish the show wasn't so caught up in its own dramas and soap operas. That's not what's interesting.
I think this was a great way to start the season. I like the idea and journey of Vince trying to get back on top. We know he will, but the question is how.
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post #4 of 430
9/8/08 at 8:24pm
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It's not a bad way to start the season and I dig the arc they're building (going from the highest grossing movie of all time to the biggest flop of all time), but this was the season premiere and it already feels like they're stretching the story. I swear they were on the beach for half the fucking episode. I don't mind stretching the story as long as I'm entertained along the way, something that the first two seasons were great at doing.

And no, I don't think Medellin tanking was a response to anything. I think they had planned out since day one. One season does one thing to Vince, the next season does the opposite.
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post #5 of 430
9/8/08 at 8:25pm
I liked it too. After a bad season 4 we needed it.

I can't stand Drama anymore, but Ari and E being more similar each day interests me.
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post #6 of 430
9/8/08 at 8:30pm
I could have watched 12 episodes at the beach.
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post #7 of 430
9/8/08 at 8:31pm
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If there was one thing they got right in this episode, it's tits.
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post #8 of 430
9/8/08 at 8:59pm
I didn't bother with Entourage in season four because I found the Billy Walsh character so grating and the plot lines became more and more ridiculous, especially as far as Drama was concerned. The failure of Medellin at least makes these characters struggle for something and not seem like a bunch of oblivious babies spoiler for a fall.

The show is clearly nowhere near as good as it was in seasons two and partially three, but it may become watchable again. We'll see.
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post #9 of 430
9/8/08 at 9:19pm
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Originally Posted by devincf View Post
Do you think making MEDELLIN a huge bomb was their way of acknowledging how bad the show has been and getting back to what made it good?
Exactly what I was thinking. It was a pretty dry episode, but certainly seemed like they're aiming for a new direction. I don't have high hopes, but considering the options they left themselves at the end of last season, I think they chose the best one.
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post #10 of 430
9/8/08 at 9:23pm
I think it's obvious the intention was for this season to be about Harvey and E working together to make the movie a classic. But Harvey is sadly old news, and moving past that story point has opened this season up for a much better arc.
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post #11 of 430
9/8/08 at 9:42pm
After suffering through Weeds this season (pure masochism), I can say that I thought this episode was awesome. I've never had a real problem with Entourage and I enjoy it as the show to shamelessly indulge in... so I guess I'm glad its back.

And in any case, the phrase "skull fuck" should be use more often in TV.
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post #12 of 430
9/8/08 at 9:44pm
I thought the third season of Weeds was pretty terrible and this season has been on par with the first.
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post #13 of 430
9/8/08 at 9:47pm
I thought the third season of Weeds was pretty terrible, then it seems the writers actually consumed Ahayuasca and plotted this season on it.
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post #14 of 430
9/8/08 at 10:14pm
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Originally Posted by Sean Bateman View Post
I think it's obvious the intention was for this season to be about Harvey and E working together to make the movie a classic. But Harvey is sadly old news, and moving past that story point has opened this season up for a much better arc.
Really? A full season of that? I figured whatever they did regarding Medellin's critical/popular reception, they'd start the season with the film being out. Glad they want the direction that they did. Hope it gets better along the way.
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post #15 of 430
9/9/08 at 9:59am
Already better than all of Season 4. And count me in the Drama is tired camp. E's changes definitely have me interested for the rest of the season.
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post #16 of 430
9/9/08 at 10:58am
I can't help but wonder if I'm feeling favorable to the opening ep, after hating most of last season, because it came right after staring and blinking at TRUE BLOOD for an hour previous. Not hard to entertain after that lead in.
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post #17 of 430
9/9/08 at 11:07am
Much better tits than True Blood, that's for damn sure.
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post #18 of 430
9/9/08 at 11:18am
I pretty much stopped watch this show, but someone told me Kim Coates was in the first episode of the new season.
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post #19 of 430
9/9/08 at 11:20am
He is, and he's great.
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post #20 of 430
9/9/08 at 2:59pm
About the only thing I found interesting in the episode (aside from reverse cowgirl) was Vince being used to lowball Hirsch.

I'll watch again next week. And again, I'll wish it were a better show.
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post #21 of 430
9/9/08 at 3:26pm
I thought this episode was pretty funny. The part with Roeper ripping on the Vince's makeup and accent, was a nice touch. I don't come into this show expecting high art, so if there are some funny parts and some hot girls, I'm satisfied.

As for True Blood, I had zero interest in it, despite loving Six Feet Under. Now that I have watched it, I am kind of interested to see where they take it. I didn't know vampires were so into fucking, that their blood could be used for better fucking, and despite all the years they have lived, history they have seen and, apparently, all the people they have been paid to violently fuck(apparently they only do it for money?), they still don't have the ability to form even a single thought in their undead heads.
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post #22 of 430
9/9/08 at 3:41pm
Well 30 minutes of a show, and really the whole episode could be summarized with: "Vince comes back, and bangs some hot women"

Still, call me cautious if this show can get back to what it was. When the episode can get summed up in one sentence, nothing interesting happened, but nothing bad happened that made it worth getting to be part of the sentence.
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post #23 of 430
9/9/08 at 3:52pm
Anyone know anything about Dom coming back this season? I recall an interview where Doug Ellin threatened to bring him back, saying that Dom was originally meant to be a fixture but that the way he was presented and the way people responded to him pretty much fucked that plan up. I can't say that I eagerly await his return if it happens.
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post #24 of 430
9/9/08 at 7:56pm
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Anyone know anything about Dom coming back this season?
Unfortunately he'll be back.

*potential minor spoilers*


Ellin has said he wants to put him in a situation where he'll garner some sympathy from the audience. One of the ideas floated out there was Dom having some sort of terminal illness.
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post #25 of 430
9/9/08 at 11:06pm
Watching a show hoping to watch a different one is never a good idea... in the case of this one, I'd pretty much advise to stop overthinking it (or, alternatively, stop watching it).
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post #26 of 430
9/10/08 at 11:20am
I just hope The Argentine doesn't go the way of Medellin.
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post #27 of 430
9/10/08 at 11:33am
Doubt it. I'd be willing to go fetch Benicio out of that beach though.
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post #28 of 430
9/10/08 at 12:12pm
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If there was one thing they got right in this episode, it's tits.
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Much better tits than True Blood, that's for damn sure.
They were better in True Blood. Am I the only man in the world who dislikes fake tits?
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post #29 of 430
9/10/08 at 12:51pm
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They were better in True Blood. Am I the only man in the world who dislikes fake tits?
I'll take Latia reverse cowgirl with a good boob job over white trashy chick getting banged by music video edited vampire any day. Typically, I would be on the anti-fake bandwagon with you.
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post #30 of 430
9/10/08 at 1:00pm
You also have to add in the fact that while a pair of fake tits, while not the greatest thing in the world, is made better by TWO pairs of fake tits. Good show, Vinnie Chase.
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post #31 of 430
9/14/08 at 11:12pm
Gratuitous Wahlberg cameo.
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post #32 of 430
9/14/08 at 11:46pm
They just showed they 100% know how to get the show on the right path. Vinnie being assertive and working his ass off is the key.
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post #33 of 430
9/14/08 at 11:57pm
Cold water night for the boys. Only thing else I wanted to see was Turtle getting some ambition back. But nice to see Vince and Ari get honest.
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post #34 of 430
9/15/08 at 1:53am
Good Episode... really like the last 10 or so minutes. Hopefully this is a turning point. There needs to be more Carla Gugino scenes in this world.

Loved how Drama turned out to be the crazy one (always suspected it).

Turtles line to get into that dancer chick's pants was awesome!
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post #35 of 430
9/15/08 at 5:10am
Entourage has fucking sucked for over a season now. Just letting you all know.
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post #36 of 430
9/15/08 at 10:07am
Last night was pretty good. Turtle had some good lines, and Drama being crazy was predictable. This new angle with Vince playing the game should make for an interesting season. I'm back on board after that horrible last season.
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post #37 of 430
9/15/08 at 8:48pm
Britney's line about fucking her comeback was amazing.
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post #38 of 430
9/15/08 at 9:33pm
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Britney's line about fucking her comeback was amazing.
Wha....

You mean Ari's line about Britney fucking her comeback?

Unfortunately this show might have filmed to early, as she does seem to be making some sort of comeback.
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post #39 of 430
9/15/08 at 10:38pm
In case anyone (on Earth) missed it, this episode was pretty directly hammering home that Entourage is based on Mark Wahlberg's career arc. I can't decide if the golf scene was brilliantly meta, or jumping the shark via irrevocably tearing down the fourth wall. I enjoyed the episode, so I'll go with the former.

Basically, we can expect Vince to find his DEPARTED before too long, although we might get to enjoy seeing him find his INVINCIBLE first. I would've said THE TRUTH ABOUT CHARLIE, but apparently that was MEDELLIN - I could've sworn PLANET OF THE APES was the model there.

I have to say, I was really hoping for Donnie Drama to overshadow his brother forever.
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post #40 of 430
9/16/08 at 12:23am
That final scene between Vince and Ari is how you get yourself back on my appointment TV list. Loved it.
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post #41 of 430
9/16/08 at 11:41am
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That final scene between Vince and Ari is how you get yourself back on my appointment TV list. Loved it.
I was gonna say, that was most interesting the show has been in over two years. Vince flat-out confronting the fact that he's not a great actor, just movie star material; Ari being painfully blunt about this. Looking at the promo for next, week, though, I wonder if the idea's peaked already.

Turtle and Drama remain completely played out, predictable, and unfunny.
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post #42 of 430
9/16/08 at 12:18pm
That scene between Vince and Ari was the best thing they've done in a while but they need to keep it up. Same with E getting the writers under his wing and trying to make that movie happen. Drama and Turtle have sadly gotten stale. I don't get how they forgot to write Drama, he used to be lovable and pathetic now he's just annoying.

The Truth About Charlie comparison is fitting because it was a DTV failure just like Medellin.

They better get Vince a new job and make a whole season about them making whatever movie it is. That's the most interesting ground that they've yet to really cover except for the premier last year.
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post #43 of 430
9/16/08 at 1:00pm
Sounds like I missed a hell of an episode. Definitely need to catch a repeat of it.
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post #44 of 430
9/16/08 at 1:40pm
It was a great episode, or at least one of the best in a while.

Vince just being demolished at the end was a great scene, but Ari is just about gold in every scene he is in.

Drama's storyline was to me quite funny because I was in a long distance relationship, and Drama went through all my shit of a decline in like 10 minutes.

Turtle... ...decent, still not my favorite character.

What funny is this show reminds me of the Ninja Turtles. It was like Ninja Turtles was conditioning me for this show. Leo is vince, the leader. Ralph & Splinter is split to Ari and E, mostly having their time with Vince. Then Mike and Don, the usually forgotten ones, are Drama and Turtle (hmm no pun).
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post #45 of 430
9/16/08 at 1:46pm
The only character that I've found annoying this season is Eric. When Ari said something along the lines of "Hey, Lloyd, get me the number for UCLA so Eric can take a class and learn how Hollywood works," I was like, yes, that's exactly what he should do. His sense of entitlement bugs the shit out of me, but I haven't figured out if the show wants me to feel that way or not.
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post #46 of 430
9/16/08 at 1:57pm
Ari went back to being a total cunt this season. He was getting too soft.
That's good.
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post #47 of 430
9/16/08 at 2:39pm
I think the bottom line is that this idea can only be interesting for so long before it has to jump the shark just to keep progressing... There's a reason it hasn't been all that interesting in about 2 seasons time.

Turtle's kind of a piece of garbage, too. Go get a job. Go DO something.
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post #48 of 430
9/16/08 at 2:56pm
I think that they need to have Vince just flip on Turtle while he's in serious mode. They need to get him out there, every time they start to do something with him they scrap the storyline. The Saigon thing was a great idea and they dropped it like idiots.
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post #49 of 430
9/16/08 at 3:08pm
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Originally Posted by KidNtheHelmet View Post
I think that they need to have Vince just flip on Turtle while he's in serious mode. They need to get him out there, every time they start to do something with him they scrap the storyline. The Saigon thing was a great idea and they dropped it like idiots.
I was wondering why they did that, especially since I seem to remember watching some making of doc where the actor who plays Turtle was talking about how nice it was to have a storyline where Turtle actually did something and met some level of success, and then they fucking dropped the storyline the following season. Stupid.
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post #50 of 430
9/17/08 at 5:51pm
I think that this might be the first season in which Vince is the actual star of the show. To me at least, it seems that E was always the main focal point.

As far as the new season, I'm relieved that they finally made some kind of commitment in saying that Vince's career had stalled. The show had hinted that it was moving in that direction a few times but they always pulled back at the last minute by finding him a new job/income (Aquaman, that Asian soda commercial). Its good that they will be showing a different side to the story instead of the nonstop hip-hop video that the boys were living for the past 4 years.

Another great thing: the failure of Medellin might guarantee that we won't see Billy Walsh anymore. The only way that situation could get any better was if there was an onscreen execution of that character. BTW, is he supposed to be an exxagerated version of Vince Gallo?
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