Entourage Season 5 - Page 2

He's this guy:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0731146/

I'm not sure if they were riffing on anyone specifically, I think they just took some stories about various different directors and combined them into one character. His character is basically the stereotypical anti-hollywood arty director who's against the establishment but works for it anyway. I always thought the biggest influence on the character was Coppola in his Apocalypse Now days but there's definitely some Gallo and David O' Russell in there too.

Edit: Really? I never would have thought that character was based on one guy.

There's shades of a lot of different directors and personalities in Hollywood, and you have to consider the choices the actor makes, but he's rooted in one guy. Rob Weiss destroyed his career like Troy Duffy, but he was a much bigger deal for the same amount of time. He was dating TV stars and doing all kinds of crazy shit.

I've always been lead to believe that he's just an amalgamation of the arsty/indie directors from the 90's/00's. Either way I found his dickhead tendencies to be funny a lot of the time. They just over did it. The line about writing the first two acts of Clouds while sitting on Dana Gordons shitter was hilarious.

Isn't it kind of obvious that E is trying to get Nine Brave Souls sold to the studio so he can then put Vince in it since it's now a studio picture?

TROY DUFFY!!!!!

I knew that there was a waft of familiar douchebaggery in Walsh's character. That would make sense in how both "characters" made marginal films that each of the directors thought were fucking brilliant and how they both relied almost entirely on attitude and not actual skill.

It may be based on this Weiss guy but I do see a lot of Duffy in him as well.

The creator grew up with Weiss and had a first hand view of his insanity. When he decided to base the character on him be brought Weiss in to join the writing staff and contribute his experiences and ideas.

I think E is trying to sign the writers because he doesn't want to put all of his eggs in Vince's basket. The way E was fucked over during the entire Medellin process probably opened his eyes to the way that he must conduct business with Vince. Hence, the attempt to manage Anna Faris, the 2 new clients this season and the new attempt to sign these new writers.

Based on both the love and the hate this show displayed in this thread, I'm going to have to go back and rent it to catch up. I got fed up and sick of the soap opera bullshit early in season 3 (I think, honestly hard to remember it's been so long). Ah, just checked. It was the 3rd season break where I quit. I never came back for 'part 2' of season 3. I take it 4 is worse?

I absolutely loved season 1, and most, if not all of season 2.

...see I think with Vince offering himself up to Aris better judgement at the end of ep2 (solid gold scene by the way), Dicksons onto something, because if E turns the script into a 'go studio picture' and can offer it to Vince well, suddenly Vinnie has to decide between his beloved agent and his (once) best friend.

(Giovanni Ribisi and Lucas Haas as the two redneck writers has all sort of comic potential)

Either way, Im a shameless harlot for this show, even when its been not great (ie much of season 4 and IMO - much of season 1), my love for these characters has kept me watching. It's my blokey Sex and the City like that. This new season definately seems to be trying to return to the well and remember what made it so great in the first place and I like that Vince is finally hungry again, Ari telling him he's percieved as "the guy who doesn't give a fuck" was as much a meta comment on the main weakness of the character last season as anything. So, I for one am happy as a pig in shit that the biys have returned and will eagerly download each new ep when it screens on your side of the world.

PS - Oh and "Rusty Cunt Bucket" may be the best Ari-ism ever...

Agree with everything about the final Ari and Vince scene. I haven't seen the promo for the next episode, but I've found that whenever the show introduced something really juicy in one episode, the next one doesn't really go with it full force. It's utterly frustrating the way Lost was at its worst.

I did like Turtle's line about not leaving Vince for the girl though. The loyalty is cute.

And Entourage is the type of show where I remember pretty much nothing that's happened in the last 4 seasons. I only remember Aquaman and Ari's downfall.

Ari's phone call to Eric was also pretty fantastic. Not even his funny asshole thing, but completely honestly brutal.

And Eric clearly took it to heart completely. Ouch. Then he goes to meet with a ball-bustin' Gugino.

I like how she did the evil "spin around in chair" reveal.

Also, I doubt they are done with Walsh. I mean, the guy he is based on is actually working on the show and if they are bringing fucking Dom back only because the actor is a friend of the showrunner... a guy as full of himself to be like Walsh and then agree to work on a show that includes him as a character won't write him out because fans think the character's a douche.

Maybe by season 8 Walsh is shopping around a TV pilot about his time as an up-an-coming director and his friendship with an up-and-coming actor? Meta(moronic)

It's Herc. They should bring in everyone from The Wire.

That last sentence there is a bit confusing, not exactly sure what you're getting at. Are you talking about Dom or Walsh?

Walsh.

When Ari leads, I will follow.
Good episode. Having Ari lay it out for Vince (and Eric) was two steps in the right direction.

That season aired before I had ever watched The Wire I've been thinking about going back because I'd probably find it a lot funnier knowing it's Herc. That said I would love to see Bunk as an asshole producer.

I re-watched this weeks episode last night and I totally missed one of the best Drama/Turtle exchanges in recent memory. While they're wondering where Drama's girlfriend is:

Turtle: Maybe she's on the shitter.
Drama: Let's hope so.

I don't know why but I laughed my ass off.

Question, was Vince turning down Aquaman 2 the equivalent of Wahlberg turning down Ocean's 11?

I really dug the scene between Vince and Ari but I am so tired of Drama.

I mean, it's based on Walhberg but not completely... the whole Aquaman 2 was probably inspired by Gyllenhall being rumored to replace Maguire in Spider-Man 2 (and "probably" is code for "obviously") and I guess because unless they dropped the Aquaman like that, there was no way they could write anything interesting* later on.

*Of course, it's arguable if they succeeded in that, but that's not the point.

And I doubt it matters that much as a parallel to Walhberg... big actors pass on roles that eventually become legendary or whatever on a regular basis. Medellin crashing and burning is a different thing.

Yeah I know. It was something which popped into my head today at the most random of times and I couldn't get rid of it. Came back when my wife was watching the replay tonight. And I thought about how Wahlberg said Aquaman was like him doing Perfect Storm; and I remembered he was being courted to take the Mat Damon role in Ocean's 11 but walked for some reason.

Anyway, just random shit. Sorry.

I think Wahlberg walked away from Ocean's 11 is because he didn't want to become the "Clooney and Wahlberg" show; they had already done two pretty succesful movies together and I remember him saying how he wanted to branch out on his own and not always be associated with Clooney.

As far as the real life Wahlberg parallel to the show, the only movie that I have heard him overtly regret doing was I 'heart' Huckabee's. I've read him describe that movie as an indie that didn't make much sense. So even though they were kicking around 'The Truth About Charlie' on the show, I think Wahlberg considers Huckabee's his low point.

I don't know if that is relevant or anything.

Screw that! Huckabees is one of the rare occurrences where I LOVE Whalberg. He's probably one of the best parts of that movie. But from a career point, I'd have to agree it wasn't one of his biggest hits. But neither was Charlie.

That's one of the great comedy performances.

"I'll block for you!"

He always seems to be trying to prevent the public from trypecasting him. I remember him prefacing an interview for The Italian Job with Letterman that he wasn't the 'remake kid,' and he didn't want people to think he only does remakes.

100% agree...Huckabees was Wahlberg at his most brilliant. And I think his appearance on screen on Entourage this season is the one thing they've done right so far. It was nice to see Ari actually has other big name celebrities that aren't Vince "I've done two successful projects" Chase.

That's so dead-on. In reality, Vinnie Chase would be so low on Ari's priority list that Drama would probably be a more desirable client at this point.

Are you forgetting the Mary J. Blige episode?

Yea, I don't blame you if you did.

I really liked this episode, just the guys, while poor, still hanging out being the entourage.

I have a soft spot when Ari flips from being a cunt to loving his family (reminds me that I too can still be a dick, but a loving family guy some day). I do have a feeling though that the "i'm sorry" is "oh shit I might have taken it too far and fuck up his happiness"

If last episode was the "cold water" one, then this one was the "rock bottom" one. The look on Vince's face at the end says it all: what the fuck has happened to me?

And I still wanted Ari to beat the shit out of Davies.

Really like the episode. The ferrari chase was pretty well shot. And love Shaunna.
Would Norton make an appearance?

Yep, the show is back.

The chase was really well shot and cut.

Yes.

As much as I enjoy the show, it kinda passes through my head like water. I forget about it immediately. What's the history between Ari and Davies?

He ratted to Terrence(Ari's old boss) about Ari's new agency.

That simple chase sequence was better than a lot of the bloated, boring shit in the Fast and Furious movies.

Oh, that's right. And I assume Davies' move was reaction to years of general abuse by Ari?

Probably because we actually like/love Ari and are well invested in the petty rivalry between the two characters. Heheh.

You know insulting the Walker will bring in Devin.

Yeah the chaise was awesome, but i got a feeling that picture of Ari with Davis' ex is gonna pop up in the family mailbox for his wife. Then we'll have the Ari and Lloyd adventures for a while.

I think the Ari/Davies war was won when Ari bitch slapped him in front of all of his co-workers. Whenever Davies tries to pull a power play in the agency, that incident will always pop into their head.

I've got a feeling that there is going to be Eric/Vince split during the season where E starts to concentrate more on new clients. His reaction to dealing with Ari kind of makes it look like he's kind of over the drama of dealing with Ari and Shawna and the whole machine that comes along with being Vince's manager.

Not that I mind seeing the further adventures of Ari and Lloyd, I don't think it'll be because of the photos of Davis' ex. Ari wasn't in those photos. They were proposition photos that the ex supposedly used on a lot of other people in the firm. And remember, for all the talk Ari does about being with other women, the show seems to point out that he is actually very faithful.

Good call on whoever said that part of the season will focus on the whole "the indie script getting turned into a studio picture, therefore forcing Ari and Vince to reconsider it". If it's predictable, it's because it can work.

This is going to be Eric showing Ari how to bend the system to work for Vince. Maybe. That is how I see it right now. Eric won't leave Vince. The whole point of the entourage is how loyal they are to each other no matter what.

I hope they don't let up and have the comeback too soon. Let it get worse and worse for a few more episodes.

I really hope the two guys who wrote the firefighter screenplay don't become Billy Walsh 2.0 in any way.

This episode also reminded me that a) Kevin Pollak is awesome and b) if I ever have a daughter, the only thing she's getting for her 16th birthday is a dire warning: get a freaking job.

Mostly of the blow variety, probably. If you're not careful!!!

Words cannot explain how much Drama ruins this show.

Not as much as he ruined that cake.