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I was recently reminded of something. While strolling through the last NY Comicon, I paused with a friend to look at the stuff on a vendor's table, and picked up an issue of an old horror comic. I can't recall the exact title, but it's something like "Boris Karloff Presents. . . . ", and it's sort of an anthology series with a comic rendering of ol' Boris doing an intro and wrap up for each story. I said that as a kid, I owned a few issues of this.

My friend commented: "Yeah, that doesn't surprise me. You always were a morbid fuck." I didn't take this as an insult, mainly because it's true.

I have clear memories of being in 4th or 5th grade, and reading a kill-by-kill synopsis of Tobe Hooper's "Funhouse" from an issue of "Famous Monsters of Filmland" aloud to a group of kids sitting in a circle one afternoon, and being thrilled by the fact that a couple of the kids were creeped out by it. I was of course playing up the dramatic reading, and actively trying to read it in as creepy a manner as possible. And one of my cousins loves to recount how I held her and her brother spellbound one night while I told a tale I completely made up off the cuff (and which I wish I could recall more clearly) about "The Mud Man" in front of a roaring fire in her parents' house years ago. It never fails to make me smile when she tells that story. I used to work in a book store as a teen, and was generally regarded as the horror expert. Whenever someone came in with a question or looking for a recommendation when I was on shift, they'd invariably get sent to see me. More often than not, I'd like to think, they left happy with a good recommendation or two under their arm.

More than one person has told me over the years that it's pretty obvious after knowing me for only a short time that I am attracted to the dark side of things. And that's certainly true. I have always loved horror novels, comics, TV shows and movies (and now that I discovered Creature Corner, this site), and for much of my life had a generally bleak outlook on life and towards my fellow man (although I am mellowing considerably in my old age). Just curious if this applies to any of the other horror fans that frequent Creature Corner. Are you regarded by friends and family as a "morbid fuck" because of your taste in films and literature? If so, does it bug you? Or do you - like me - take a sort of backhanded pride in it?
post #2 of 47
My mother, who's eternally liberal minded, and who left me to my devices by the time I hit 16, was convinced that I'd be blamed for some crime, and arrested without trial if the authorities saw my room, which was filled and covered with horror movie paraphernalia.
post #3 of 47
My folks were the same way. After years of watching horror flicks, collecting Famous Monsters, Creepy, Eerie, the old EC books, Fangoria, etc. and hanging out with my best friend (his basement is like a mini-Ackermansion), they were convinced I'd be doing time in Rahway or something.

My wife usually rolls her eyes when I scout the horror listings on Optimum ("looking for one of YOUR movies, hon?"), and when I bemoan the fact that I don't have an HD TV (YET!) so I can't watch MonstersHD. Good times!

ETA: I did learn at the Kubert School that people will back away from your room once they see a Texas Chainsaw Massacre family portrait on your wall.
post #4 of 47
As a kid, I told my younger (8 & 6ish) cousins THE EVIL DEAD trilogy as a bedtime story in daily installments.
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I dunno if it's horror related, but whenever I showed my enthusiasm over some horror or sci-fi thing, my sister would say something like, "Sigh... only you would like something like that."

Yes, only me and millions others.

That ALWAYS pissed me off.
post #6 of 47
I had a teacher who thought I was a troubled soul because of my love for all things horror, and my parents let me watch horror flicks, in small doses, but by the time high school rolled around, they didn't worry about me as much, as they knew I wasn't going to end up insane, so I could see whatever I wanted.

In their defense, once in 4th grade I wrote a story that used the puppets from the Puppet Master flicks, and my teacher thought it was messed up, and made me take it to my mother to sign it.

She, a teacher as well, signed it and said to me, as well as to the teacher who had me take her my story, that one day I may end up writing horror fiction like Stephen King, whose novel The Stand, she used to tell me about, and read passages to me when I was a little kid. Nothing like hearing about the cowboy dressed Randall Flagg, and the radiation sickened Trashcan Man.

Also, I'm glad that I have a girlfriend who I can proudly say has seen Frontier(S) and Spinell's Maniac with me, and actually liked them. She especially dug Frontier(S). She's also not a huge fan of horror per se, but just that she can sit through these flicks is actually pretty cool.
post #7 of 47
I'm not necessarily proud of being morbid, but I'm certainly not ashamed of it. It's who I am. I occasionally enjoy making people uncomfortable, like in college when after viewing my first autopsy I went to the cafeteria and recounted the procedure to everyone in earshot, eating my lunch while everybody else became unable to eat theirs.

My parents are partly to blame, because when I evinced interest in the darker things at an early age they indulged me. At the age of 6 or 7 they had taken me to see Jaws and bought me books on disasters, medical oddities, crime and unexplained disappearances.
post #8 of 47
You didn't happen to be eating a sandwich while witnessing this autopsy were you?
post #9 of 47
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In their defense, once in 4th grade I wrote a story that used the puppets from the Puppet Master flicks, and my teacher thought it was messed up, and made me take it to my mother to sign it.
My mom tried to keep me from it until she saw just how relentless I was. I'd sneak shit like A Nightmare on Elm Street and The Unnamable out of my Aunt's video store ALL the time and once my Mom realized that that's what I was seeking out on my own and wasn't going insane she started to open up her Stephen King library to me.

In the 5th Grade, we had a big book report project that we spent several weeks on in class and I decided to do mine on Cujo. I didn't find out until a few years ago that my teacher had a SERIOUS problem with this and called my Mom in to have the big conference with her. Teach gave her the standard accusatory "How could you!" BS and my mom held her ground and told her that first of all, she should be glad that I'm reading at all, secondly, that I was reading books that were so advanced for my age and actually understanding them etc etc etc. Mom said that the Teacher backed the hell off and I never heard a word about it.
post #10 of 47
Cujo is one big book too. Great that your Mother backed you up too, JG.
post #11 of 47
My Mom and Girlfriend have spent the last few months telling me that I need to shoot something that's not morbid, dark, or violent. I told them to fuck off or I'd kill them... elaborately.
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In the 5th Grade, we had a big book report project that we spent several weeks on in class and I decided to do mine on Cujo. I didn't find out until a few years ago that my teacher had a SERIOUS problem with this and called my Mom in to have the big conference with her. Teach gave her the standard accusatory "How could you!" BS and my mom held her ground and told her that first of all, she should be glad that I'm reading at all, secondly, that I was reading books that were so advanced for my age and actually understanding them etc etc etc. Mom said that the Teacher backed the hell off and I never heard a word about it.
I did a 9th grade book report on Hannibal, to celebrate the release of the film.
post #13 of 47
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You didn't happen to be eating a sandwich while witnessing this autopsy were you?
No, the first one was a very sober, serious affair. It affected all of us deeply, on the ride back to school (we had gone to the county ME office) everyone was absorbed in their own thoughts and noone spoke. We perked up when we got back and realized most of us were hungry.

I'm pretty sure I could've eaten a sandwich during my second autopsy. I brought a camera and asked if I could take pictures (I was told "No" in a slighly scornful tone.)
post #14 of 47
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As a kid, I told my younger (8 & 6ish) cousins THE EVIL DEAD trilogy as a bedtime story in daily installments.
I was never a big fan of the films, but I wholeheartedly applaud this spirit.

Now that some people have mentioned it, I have to give a huge hats off to my folks, who let me read or watch damn near anything I wanted to, from about age 9. I didn;t think much of this at the time, figuring any parents would let their kids read cool stuff like this so long as they were reading, but in recent years as I've seen how heavily censored other kids' reading material is these days, I am coming to appreciate what they did for me more & more. Not to brag, but I write pretty well, and I don't think I'd have become as facile with the language if I didn't read so much, and I wouldn't have read so much if I didn't seriously enjoy what I was allowed to read. Since what I enjoyed reading was mainly horror, that's yet another reason to thank Mom and Dad. I am lobbying hard for a similarly hands off approach to be taken with my son and his reading/viewing habits (hell, I hope someday to instill in him a love for all things horrific myself, and share the joys I have come to love w/ him). But my wife is opposed to this. It could get messy.

BTW, the 1st horror novel I bought & read for myself? Cujo. Rock on, JGB!
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BTW, the 1st horror novel I bought & read for myself? Cujo. Rock on, JGB!
The first book I ever stole was a horror novel, "Spiders" by Richard Lewis. I was twelve.
post #16 of 47
Regarding the autopsy thing - it's funny, I can watch the most brutal, disturbing, horrible stuff in the realm of cinema and it doesn't bother me above and beyond the filmmaker's intent. (i.e. - the rape scene in LHotL disturbed the bejeezus out of me, but nothing you could show me in a cheesy slasher film would make me bat an eye, no matter HOW gruesome) but real life grue and violence makes me queezy. Crime Scene photos, war aftermath, hell, even Faces of Death - never could handle it.

And with my daughter, I'd love it if she showed an interest in similar things - as of yet she hasn't. Even The Crypt Keeper on the cover of my Tales from the Crypt DVD kinda bugs her a little bit. But even if she did show an active interest I'd probably guide her a bit but still lay down the "law," about what she could or couldn't see, even if I wasn't opposed to it, because there's something magical about finding it on your own. Like I mentioned earlier - sneaking it out of my aunt's video store, creeping out of bed late at night to turn on HBO or Cinemax when I knew something I wanted to see was coming on and hoping I wouldn't get busted (this also became a regular practice when I developed an interest in breasts) - and I think we all sort of had those moments when we were a kid.
post #17 of 47
I used to ride around with bones and skulls in my car. Mostly stuff I found on the beach. Somehow, my female friends still rode around with me. What can I say, I was a pissed-off, depressed teen.
post #18 of 47
You're not alone Jeremy, real blood does me in fairly quickly.

My dad was fine with the majority of the horror movies I watched (he occasionally had a restriction) mostly because I always told him what I was watching.

My mother however objected to every single one but sighed and just told me "You do what you have to I guess..."

My friends were all like-minded, still are, although some of the more extreme stuff bugged them (they still don't forgive me for Hellraiser II)

I actually took all of those poster art inserts from the Halloween DVD's and hung them in my locker. That got me a "morbid" reputation around the school in eighth grade.
post #19 of 47
When I saw this thread, I imagined it meant "Were you a morbid piece of ass, as well?" and expected something else entirely inside.
post #20 of 47
I got the horror bug from my grandma, who used to love just chilling out and watching the weird horror stuff that would show up on USA Up All Night. True story.

That plus growing up with friends who were horror aficionados made me overcome my sissyhood and embrace all that is fucked up about the world of horror movies.

Admittedly I still have a really, really, really hard time seeing women being put into situations of torture and rape and such, which is more a personal issue of mine than anything else.
post #21 of 47
For an answer that doesn't sound like a lame lie from the Chewers catch-all, I have to admit staying up late at a friend's house watching the Toxic Avenger on HBO(a new, amazing thing for me at the time), was the greatest thing ever at the time, and probably had a huge influence on my love of horror comedies.
After that I started watching a lot of similar stuff(most of it awful), and later, filling my car full of bones.
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For an answer that doesn't sound like a lame lie from the Chewers catch-all, I have to admit staying up late at a friend's house watching the Toxic Avenger on HBO(a new, amazing thing for me at the time), was the greatest thing ever at the time, and probably had a huge influence on my love of horror comedies.
After that I started watching a lot of similar stuff(most of it awful), and later, filling my car full of bones.
Why the fuck did you find bones and skulls? Where did you grow up, Soul Reaver Island?
post #23 of 47
Nah, washed up Sea turtle skull on the beach, random deer bone in a field, stuff like that, it happens. I was just the only weirdo who'd be thinking "Hey that looks cool!". Sun bleached to hell usually. Don't ask me why, but I'd pick them up.

The sea turtle skull is the only one I still have.
post #24 of 47
My mother was highly disturbed to find an action figure hanging by the neck from my bedpost. Also, I once did an art project that was a paper mache zeppelin called the Hitler II, with swastikas on it. My teacher was not happy with it.

So yeah, I guess I had that streak.
post #25 of 47
Me, morbid? Naaaah.

I've resigned to the fact that people find some of the stuff I like creepy. It used to bother me but now I just don't give a shit.

Funny story. Despite being a knee-jerk pinko liberal, I love guns. So one time I was reading a magazine, of which I don't remember the title, that in addition to articles about guns also had articles about police procedures, crime scene handling and such. So it happens that this particular issue had a story about stabbings. Which type of knife causes a certain type of wound, etc accompanied with actual crime scene photos. After a while I look up and see this old lady looking half-dead with fear staring at me. I had to tell her that I'm a police officer to get her to calm down.
post #26 of 47
This thread explains quite a lot.
post #27 of 47
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This thread explains quite a lot.
Did I mention I tend to be overanalytical as well?

Edited to clarify: I just can't resist finding out what makes things - even unwholesome things - tick.
post #28 of 47
What do you mean were?

I'm not overly fond of the term "Morbid Fuck", so I prefer to use my wife's more clinical definition of "Sociopath with Homicidal Tendencies".
post #29 of 47
Saw my first cadaver as a freshman in college. Life Drawing 1, which involved a trip to the local hospital to check out a dissected male cadaver so we could study the musculature, skeletal structure, etc. and see how a human body works and moves so our drawings would be more accurate and realistic. Cool thing was, after a steady diet of horror films, pics, magazines, etc., I was the only one who wasn't wierded out by the whole thing. The rest of the class, however... oh, the puking was glorious at moments.

I'm with you on the parents, Iggy. My folks set me hip to horror and sci-fi when I was a kid. They'd watch 'em with me, and explain afterwards what I saw wasn't real, just actors and actresses pretending stuff on TV. My dad hooked me up with my first copy of Famous Monsters, and when my brother and I were little, he used to read comic books to us before bedtime.

Parents ruled back in the day.
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I'm with you on the parents, Iggy. My folks set me hip to horror and sci-fi when I was a kid. They'd watch 'em with me, and explain afterwards what I saw wasn't real, just actors and actresses pretending stuff on TV. My dad hooked me up with my first copy of Famous Monsters, and when my brother and I were little, he used to read comic books to us before bedtime.

Parents ruled back in the day.
That they did.

Not that that wasn't cool, but I like what my folks did better. For the most part, they bought the stuff for me when I didn't have money of my own, & then when I did have my own cash, let me buy whatever I wanted. But either way, they left me ALONE with it (for the most part; Dad always kind of liked sci fi stuff, so he'd occasionally watch a "Star Trek", "Twilight Zone" or "Outer Limits" with me, or watch a movie I'd rented the next afternoon (he worked the night shift for some years, and would watch and return a lot of my films after I'd seen them the night before). The trust they displayed in my maturity was just - in retrospect, particularly given what I hear from many parents today - fucking amazing. And more & more appreciated every day.
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What do you mean were?
I mentioned this thread to my wife last night, and we got to talking about it, and I told her I was always considered a happy child until I was maybe 5 years old (it seems all the trauma started when I started school; damn peers!). My mother loves to tell the story of how she took me to a zoo or something, and there were a bunch of geese in a pond there. Whenever one would honk, I would laugh hysterically. Eventually, I drew a crowd of onlookers, who were all smiling and laughing, eagerly waiting to hear me laugh some more. I was just that happy and cute as a toddler, I'm told.

My wife then looked at me all puzzled and said: "Well? What the fuck HAPPENED to you?!" She's a really happy, optimistic person, who loves Walt Disney the way I love H.P. Lovecraft, and she often wonders just how the hell two such diametrically opposed personalities ever got together.

I am at a loss to explain it. For that matter, I don't know what makes us this way and attracts us to horror in the first place. But that's a discussion for another thread. . . .
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The first book I ever stole was a horror novel, "Spiders" by Richard Lewis. I was twelve.
I'm almost positive I bought that at a second hand book shop in Bayonne. Sort of reddish-purple cover, w/ a painting of a guy's face all but buried in arachnid legs, screaming, and a huge, evil looking spider all in shadow at the bottom foreground?
post #33 of 47
In second grade, I was assigned to write a Christmas story. Naturally while everyone else wrote about puppies or Jesus, I wrote about an axe murderer who slaughters Santa Claus and goes on a murder spree in his sleigh. The school didn't appreciate it, especially considering it was a Southern Baptist private school. Fuck them, though. I was proud of it.
post #34 of 47
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I'm almost positive I bought that at a second hand book shop in Bayonne. Sort of reddish-purple cover, w/ a painting of a guy's face all but buried in arachnid legs, screaming, and a huge, evil looking spider all in shadow at the bottom foreground?
Bingo. I tried looking for a picture of the book but I could only find the British cover, which wasn't nearly as creepy as the face among the spider legs. I stole it from a pharmacy-market in Florida during a month-long stay with my grandparents.
post #35 of 47
I to watched Up all Night and saw Nightmare on Elm Street and Toxic Avenger as well. But when I was about 5 a local video store had evil dead 2 VHS and that cover haunted me till 99 when I rented and fell in love with Horror once more
post #36 of 47
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That they did.

Not that that wasn't cool, but I like what my folks did better. For the most part, they bought the stuff for me when I didn't have money of my own, & then when I did have my own cash, let me buy whatever I wanted. But either way, they left me ALONE with it (for the most part; Dad always kind of liked sci fi stuff, so he'd occasionally watch a "Star Trek", "Twilight Zone" or "Outer Limits" with me, or watch a movie I'd rented the next afternoon (he worked the night shift for some years, and would watch and return a lot of my films after I'd seen them the night before). The trust they displayed in my maturity was just - in retrospect, particularly given what I hear from many parents today - fucking amazing. And more & more appreciated every day.
Cool parents, Ig! My folks set me hip to stuff I saw on TV when I was little, so by age 6 or so, I was pretty much on my own with figuring stuff out via TV and movies.

Think I'll hang with my folks this weekend...
post #37 of 47
I'm not a morbid guy or a splatter guy (don't particularly care for slasher flicks) but I loves me my creatures. I have sat through some of the worst crap just on the hopes that I might see a very cool creature design (Pumpkinhead comes to mind).

It also explains why my animated series revolves around creatures from horror flicks.
post #38 of 47
Don't know as I'd classify myself as a morbid fuck, honestly. I just didn't make too much a distinction of genres when it came to literature. Silas Marner was just a decent read. So was the collected works of Poe. I read everything I could get my hands on, regardless of what it was. Later on I found myself drawn to Algernon Blackwood and a few of the other genre guys. Found myself drawn to Tom Clancy at one point, too. So it's less about the literary genre and more about the literary mood for me.

Movies, though....are all my dad's fault. He introduced me to the Creature Feature and Chiller Theater stuff. Explained how special effects were done (up until Star Wars...at that point I started delving into my own research via Starlog and rags of that ilk) and pointed out that good movies about Dracula and Frankenstein could star Lugosi and Lee and weren't dependent on a moment in time, but the universal power of the story and character.

It's been a long long time since then. I have a NICE copy of the collected works of Poe. I hope to be able to sit down with one of the kids and share with them the opening lines "The thousand injuries of Fortunato I had borne as I best could, but when he ventured upon insult I vowed revenge." among others.
post #39 of 47
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My wife then looked at me all puzzled and said: "Well? What the fuck HAPPENED to you?!" She's a really happy, optimistic person, who loves Walt Disney the way I love H.P. Lovecraft, and she often wonders just how the hell two such diametrically opposed personalities ever got together.
Same here Iggy. My wife remembers her childhood as Cinderella and Snow White. I think back to Krueger and Myers and late nights watching Gilbert Gottfried on USA. I can get her to watch about 1-2 horror movies per year with me.

Opposites attract, yada, yada, yada.

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I dunno if it's horror related, but whenever I showed my enthusiasm over some horror or sci-fi thing, my sister would say something like, "Sigh... only you would like something like that."
My wife said this to me two days ago when I was watching Phantasm on Netflix.
post #40 of 47
I would probably still laugh at geese honking.
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I have sat through some of the worst crap just on the hopes that I might see a very cool creature design (Pumpkinhead comes to mind).
How dare you!
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It's been a long long time since then. I have a NICE copy of the collected works of Poe. I hope to be able to sit down with one of the kids and share with them the opening lines "The thousand injuries of Fortunato I had borne as I best could, but when he ventured upon insult I vowed revenge." among others.
For the love of God, Teledork!
post #43 of 47
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Bingo. I tried looking for a picture of the book but I could only find the British cover, which wasn't nearly as creepy as the face among the spider legs. I stole it from a pharmacy-market in Florida during a month-long stay with my grandparents.
Decent, if somewhat trashy, action movie-esque read, no? Especially seeing as you got it fo' free. If it's fo' free, it's fo' me.
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How dare you!
What? That's a god awful movie but very cool creature design.
post #45 of 47
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For the love of God, Teledork!
What? You think "The Telltale Heart" would be better to start them out on?

You may have a point there, Igs.

TRUE! --nervous --very, very dreadfully nervous I had been and am; but why will you say that I am mad? The disease had sharpened my senses --not destroyed --not dulled them. Above all was the sense of hearing acute. I heard all things in the heaven and in the earth. I heard many things in hell. How, then, am I mad? Hearken! and observe how healthily --how calmly I can tell you the whole story.

Or maybe some Lefanu, perhaps?
post #46 of 47
Feh. I say start the young'uns on some Lovecraft. Best they get their learn on concerning the Great Old Ones early. Plus, I may mispronounce something in the Necronomicon and be devoured by some unseen beast - so the kids would get a floor show as well. True, my wife would have to clean the carpet afterwards, but hey...
post #47 of 47
My mother put few limits on what I was allowed to watch or read when I was a child. The only film I ever remember her telling me I couldn't watch was the Exorcist, and that is because it frightened her. She took me to a drive in to see A Nightmare on Elm Street when I was 4 years old, and I will forever love her for it.

Now that I have children of my own, I hope to see them have the same interest in horror and film that my wife and I share, and I strive to implant that in them. My son's first Halloween, he was a zombie child. His second he was a little vampire toddler. His third...Chucky.

My wife has said I sometimes go a little to far. When My sons was about 3 moths old and still waking up during the night, I would often read a book while I was giving him a late night/ early morning feeding. My wife awoke one night frightened by a scary voice. She came into the living room where my son was enjoying a bottle and a reading of IT, complete with voices. "We all float down here!" She told me next time, keep it down. And that I did a pathertic Tim Curry impersonation.
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