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Ghostwatch (1992)

post #1 of 27
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The problem with this BBC tv movie is that it's hard to easily describe the impact for those of you outside this country.

Ghostwatch, which I've been meaning to get hold of for years, is a ghost story done in the style of a live tv documentary. It has the comfortable studio with a slightly over-the-top set, the hotline with supposed calls coming in from viewers, the apparant experts on call and intrepid BBC reporters braving the interior of what is claimed to be "the most haunted house in Britain".

The program replicates the slightly over-the-top 90s tv documentary style perfectly, seeming as safe and cosy as they normally did for quite a while, and then things gradually start to go wrong- shadows pop up that are unnoticed by the presenters but obvious to the viewers, the reporters find strange damp patches in the house, and the calls and interviews from outside start to suggest an increasingly disturbing history to the place. Eventually, both the "live feed" and then the studio erupt into chaos, and the presenter himself is apparantly possessed.

Some years before Blair Witch and its influences or the reality television wave, these things alone would make Ghostwatch unusual (and it's really a remarkably effective and subtle ghost story, too), but the thing that made it infamous was the presentation, whereby although the BBC credited and listed it as a drama, they stocked it with such well-known television personalities of the time as Sarah Greene, Craig Charles and, most convincingly, the veteran interviewer and presenter Michael Parkinson. His presence in particular lent such an air of realism to the proceedings that vast numbers if viewers were entirely taken in by the thing, and the BBC was inundated with complaints of traumatised children and the like.

The experience of watching this now is a decidedly surreal one. The faux-documentary aspects are remarkably effective even when the nature of the program is known- many of these people are still familiar faces on moddern British television, after all. The ghost story aspect is remarkably restrained and understated, with the only manisfestations of the ghost itself being brief and untelegraphed.

Really, I'm not sure there's anything else at all like this out there. It predates reality television by quite a long way, and has an air of authenticity I've never enountered in any other documentary style drama. Very unusual piece of work.
post #2 of 27
As a Yank, I'll say that Ghostwatch was one of the most riveting and effective shows I've ever seen. Even not knowing the personalities involved (though I had seen the younger, hip dark-haired guy before) I was completely sucked in. Were it not for the fact that remakes tend to suck balls, an American version with our news/entertainment personalities would be quite interesting, especially if it's not made obvious that it's entirely fictional.

Fun story: at the point when people are calling in and reporting strange phenomena, the lights in my friend's apartment turned on twice by themselves. The lights had never done that before, and never have since. Weird and wonderfully spooky.
post #3 of 27
I would really love to see this. No Region 1 DVD, I assume?
post #4 of 27
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I would really love to see this. No Region 1 DVD, I assume?
No, but the Region 2 BFI release (scarce for a while) seems to have just been reprinted, which is how I got hold of it.
post #5 of 27
I was 16 when this came out and it still scared the living crap out of me.

The site of the very respectable Micheal Parkinson rocking back and forth and moaning really creeped me out.

Good stuff and because it was billed as a real documentarry it worked very very well.
post #6 of 27
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I would really love to see this. No Region 1 DVD, I assume?
You can watch it on Google video
http://video.google.com/videosearch?...ch&emb=0&aq=f#
post #7 of 27
It's great stuff. I watched this LIVE, ALONE on the night of original broadcast. Fucked me up enough to make me switch all the lights on in the house. The more embarassing shit like that I do after watching a ghost story, the more I love it.
post #8 of 27

Since more people are watching this, it's time for a bump....

post #9 of 27

Oh man, I had no idea this thread existed, and I did a search too. I'll just stick my post from another thread in here for completions sake.


The first and last word on all found footage films is GHOSTWATCH the "live" 1992 Halloween investigation into a haunted home on BBC1. The "Haunting" was based on an actual investigation in the late 1970s called the Enfield Poltergiest which sort of gave it a sense of reality. It's a little dated now, but if you go in with the right frame of mind, I think that aspect helps. It feels like you're watching something recovered from the archives. It also predicted Ghost Hunters, Ghost Adventures and Most Haunted by a decade.

 

On broadcast it felt so new and I was so excited for a "Live ghost investigation" that I remember being glued to the set all night. Something that over the years has become a joke, felt so exciting to 12 year old me. It's probably my favorite horror film of all time, beyond anything bigger, or technically better. There's something about it, that, without fail, always brings me to the boil with fear. I think it also might have the most frightening DVD menu of all time. So much so, that once I left the DVD player on for a few days without realising I'd left the disc in. The menu, hooked up to my surround sound made me think I was haunted for half a week...

 

There's something about not having actors, but shitty low level TV presenters you're utterly familiar with as its main cast that make it work. People you'd never expect to be involved in something like this. I'm trying to think of an american comparison to Michael Parkinson (Regis Philbin? Johnny Carson?) but it's played so well. The scares are also very fleeting with the ghost, but what you do see is a good deal more than something like Paranormal Activity, stopping just far enough to let your imagination completely fucking ruin you. I'm reluctant to say much about it because it's so well done, and I don't imagine many chewers have seen it.

 

Here's the film on google video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6073447872198040913

post #10 of 27

So, the ending - controversial I think for some people, but has rather devastating consequences - the main thing that completely terrified me when watching this live was the implication that demons/ghosts whatever had the ability to come out of the TV. I genuinely thought the world was going to end. I made my dad switch the telly off before the credits had rolled, and I screamed at them even as they tried to convince me it wasn't real. I didn't sleep right for weeks, and now, even at the slightest mention of 'Pipes' or the weird silence that inhabits those 'in studio' pieces, I'll get severe nightmares - even as I approach 30.

 

The best and most effective horror film I've ever seen. A true heir to the crown of Nigel Kneale.

 

post #11 of 27

Thanks to you, I now have a crush on Sarah Greene.   And no, I refuse to google what she looks like today.   The bobbing for apples thing was so adorable.

 

I'd love to see someone try this today and see if they can pull one over with today's internet savvy audience.   One thing I think I missed was the subtle appearance of "Pipes" throughout the program that's never acknowleged by the paricipants.   Need to watch again and see if I can spot those Easter Eggs.

post #12 of 27
Originally Posted by dynamotv View Post
Thanks to you, I now have a crush on Sarah Greene.   And no, I refuse to google what she looks like today. 

 

She was on some reality skating show a few years ago.

sarah-greene-dancing-on-ice-press-launch-photocall-1FjUVI.jpg

 

 

 

Originally Posted by dynamotv View Post
Need to watch again and see if I can spot those Easter Eggs.

There's a list of all his appearances on wiki.

 

post #13 of 27

I'm going to have to watch this again (Kudos for the link). I still remember how much this thing fucked with everyone's heads at the time. You couldn't get away with it today, with people so literate in mockumentart and found footage narratives, but nobody was prepared for it at the time. I mentioned this in RD's thread but the choice of celebrities is inspired across the board. Parkinson was the cherry on top, but nobody would've ever pictured Sarah Greene and Craig Charles doing drama of any kind, let alone something like this. I think that clever casting against type did a lot to make it feel authentic.

post #14 of 27

Gonna revert to an old avatar in honour of this thread.

 

There he is!

post #15 of 27

I'm joining in.

post #16 of 27

This sounds incredible. I'm watching it tonight.

post #17 of 27

Just finished watching it. Even knowing how it ended still didn't diminish it impact. I think I'm going to stay up for awhile yet, wait for my upstairs neighbor to quit milling around.

 

I know I saw Pipes' reflection in the sliding glass door. Yeesh. My cat perked her head up a couple of times during the scenes with all the meowing.

post #18 of 27

Good to finally see this. I've heard so much about it before.  It does seem a bit clunky now, but it would have fit right in with TV at the time.

In terms of the plot and skepticism I think they swung  from it being the girl back to it being a ghost a little too fast.  Parky went from asking hard questions to going along with things and then helping the doctor's wild haunting mechanics a little too easily.

But that's nitpicky

 

You probably could do something like this today and make it work, in something like Big Brother even.  You could get all meta with it and go on to social media, have things call people's phones or something.  But you'd have to ignore many, if not all, ethical qualms that might be thrown up.  Big Brother already most of the way there on that score though.

post #19 of 27

Took me a while to find it(didn't want to watch it on the computer but on my big screen) but it was worth. Didn't tell my dad it was a drama and he bought into it up until the false video of everything going ok in the house was being displayed. 

post #20 of 27
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So, the ending - controversial I think for some people, but has rather devastating consequences - the main thing that completely terrified me when watching this live was the implication that demons/ghosts whatever had the ability to come out of the TV.

Apparently that was the original ending. Saw an interview with the writer where he said that would have been the implication that all homes would now be haunted with ghosts coming out of the tv. Said in retrospect it's good he didn't do it.
 

 

post #21 of 27

 

Hang on - isn't that how it ended? I've got the DVD here somewhere and my memory is that it ends with Parkinson wandering around the ruined TV studio, head out of frame and speaking weirdly - the ghost dude up in the lighting rig - and the implication the viewer's own TV was now infected. Is this not the case or is it a less obvious read or something?

 

From the DVD extras there were reports of people freaking out.

 

Was there a Coda perhaps? Like "This was just a bit of fun"? Guess it's time to watch it again.

post #22 of 27
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Hang on - isn't that how it ended? I've got the DVD here somewhere and my memory is that it ends with Parkinson wandering around the ruined TV studio, head out of frame and speaking weirdly - the ghost dude up in the lighting rig - and the implication the viewer's own TV was now infected. Is this not the case or is it a less obvious read or something?

 

From the DVD extras there were reports of people freaking out.

 

Was there a Coda perhaps? Like "This was just a bit of fun"? Guess it's time to watch it again.

You 100% right but I believe he meant they would have explored that further. He didn't get detailed with his explaination but I think they may have actually had ghosts coming at you.

 

post #23 of 27
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Originally Posted by Muzman View Post

You probably could do something like this today and make it work, in something like Big Brother even.  You could get all meta with it and go on to social media, have things call people's phones or something.  But you'd have to ignore many, if not all, ethical qualms that might be thrown up.  Big Brother already most of the way there on that score though.

Not with that ending though. Great ending but if they wanted more people to be fooled something smaller would have been better. However according to the interviews I found on youtube they weren't trying that hard to fool anyone. Supposedly they made it clear before the broadcast that it was a drama and not live. And when you called that number it said "this is not a live show" but some people missed the start and most people couldn't get through on the phone lines.
 

 

post #24 of 27

I guess Marble Hornets proves that it's still possible to get people to go along with an even quite obvious hoax if the tone and presentation is right - and you don't outstay your welcome.

 

A Big Brother that patiently laid the groundwork for a big scare finale would be great, but I remember how quickly nerds sniff out things presented as "absolute truth" as hoaxes. What was that early youtube thing - "Lonelygirl" or something? - the viral sniffer types pulled that apart incredibly quickly, where they never seem to lay a hand on something that seems obviously a put-on (or just using the "reality" as part of the story), while the average viewer is awestruck.

post #25 of 27
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A Big Brother that patiently laid the groundwork for a big scare finale would be great, but I remember how quickly nerds sniff out things presented as "absolute truth" as hoaxes. What was that early youtube thing - "Lonelygirl" or something? - the viral sniffer types pulled that apart incredibly quickly, where they never seem to lay a hand on something that seems obviously a put-on (or just using the "reality" as part of the story), while the average viewer is awestruck.

Yeah that poor girl. That became a big deal for a while. The girl appeared on the Tonight Show and then got some kind of development deal if I remember correctly. And now...........where is she exactly? Hope that deal paid well.

post #26 of 27

Just looked her up, turns out she has been working steadily.

post #27 of 27

I remember watching this the night it was broadcast. Really freaked me out. I cottoned on about half-way into it that it wasn't real (I was 14 when it aired). Other people in the UK weren't so lucky. It was all over the newspapers in the following weeks.

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