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post #51 of 54
9/19/08 at 2:43pm
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Originally Posted by EdHocken View Post
Hey, we all saw The Wire Season 2. We're aware about hot women being smuggled for white slavery.
Aah! Spoiler text!
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post #52 of 54
9/19/08 at 7:40pm
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Originally Posted by RCA View Post
Yes, I bet you are VERY familiar with that aspect of immigration.
Hey, my personal and or business activities are none of your business.
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post #53 of 54
9/21/08 at 9:34pm
NY Times editorial on the politics behind immigration.
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Last year’s Senate immigration bill was a big, fat compromise that had a lot in it to please both sides in the debate. Among other things, it added tough layers of enforcement at the border and in the workplace, and included a (long and torturous) path to citizenship for illegal immigrants.

The bill was a right-of-center compromise. Back in the day, Mr. McCain — who once drafted a comprehensive immigration bill with Senator Edward Kennedy — would have led the charge for a bill like this. Back when he was still an independent thinker on immigration.

But by the time this bill came along, Mr. McCain was eager to win over the right-wing base of his party, which has never trusted him on immigration (or a number of other issues). Rather than continue to play the maverick, Mr. McCain largely absented himself from negotiations — and slipped meekly back into the herd.

The bill that emerged from that process was a mess. Advocates of comprehensive reform held their noses and supported it, hoping it could be improved in conference. Republicans attacked it, egged on by talk-radio hosts waging an all-out assault on what they called an “amnesty bill.”

Hundreds of amendments were proposed to kill it or improve it, depending on your point of view, and some were called “poison pills” by the “grand bargainers” who had assembled the unwieldy compromise.

So, here is what that misleading Spanish ad is referring to.

Mr. Obama supported an amendment from Senator Byron Dorgan, backed by unions, that would have phased out a guest-worker program after five years. The amendment passed, 49 to 48, but it was no poison pill.

“Not one member of Congress stood up and said, ‘I’m voting against the bill because of that Dorgan amendment,’” said Frank Sharry, executive director of America’s Voice, an organization supporting comprehensive immigration reform. “It’s preposterous. Not even close.”

In the end, it wasn’t that amendment or any others supported by Mr. Obama that caused the fragile coalition to fall apart. The bill was killed by Mr. McCain’s party. Its supporters were hoping to attract 25 to 30 Republican votes, but they could only round up 12, in the wake of all of those right-wing attacks.
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post #54 of 54
9/22/08 at 7:21pm
McCain supports a pathway to citizenship... for the Irish.

So while Obama was working to improve (although his opponents would characterize it as "kill") a bill that had no hope of getting passed, McCain was largely absent from the sub-committee negotiations virtually guaranteeing that no Republicans would switch their votes. And now he's pandering to ethnic Irish on the very same issue on which he failed to stick up for hispanics. Ugh, just disgusting.
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