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post #451 of 726
10/28/09 at 1:58am
Speaking of forum bitching, they've exploded tonight over this gem from the current working notes for the next patch:

Paladin - Lay on Hands can no longer be cast on yourself.

May I be the first one here to say BWA HA HA HA HA HA snort HA HA!
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post #452 of 726
10/28/09 at 3:45am
Just found this thread.I have 4 80s on Uther,Alliance side
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post #453 of 726
10/28/09 at 9:56am
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Originally Posted by Rheokhu View Post
Speaking of forum bitching, they've exploded tonight over this gem from the current working notes for the next patch:

Paladin - Lay on Hands can no longer be cast on yourself.

May I be the first one here to say BWA HA HA HA HA HA snort HA HA!
I don't PVP, so I'm sure that's great for making PVP a little more fair, but damn my pally tank is going to miss that.
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post #454 of 726
10/28/09 at 6:40pm
I remember opining about this earlier, but it’s stuff like this that really illustrates why my interest has dwindled over time. The social aspects of this game have systematically been excised in favor of solo-play efficiency, and while that’s probably the right decision for a game with such a broad player base, it takes away from the value inherent to a persistent world.
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post #455 of 726
10/29/09 at 11:37am
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Originally Posted by Girma View Post
I remember opining about this earlier, but it’s stuff like this that really illustrates why my interest has dwindled over time. The social aspects of this game have systematically been excised in favor of solo-play efficiency, and while that’s probably the right decision for a game with such a broad player base, it takes away from the value inherent to a persistent world.
I see both sides of the argument. Coming from a guy who generally only plays late at night, it can be very difficult to find a group to do anything. I would love to be in a guild where we had great participation with helpful members, etc. but that has been hard for me to find.

I hit 78 last night and I came to the sobering realization that I don't really know what to do when I hit 80. I know people run heroics or whatever, but I know nothing about any of that. I would like to learn, but I worry about finding a guild that will be willing to throw somebody like me into the mix (inexperienced, dressed in blues) not to mention a guild that actually does this stuff consistently later at night.
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post #456 of 726
10/29/09 at 12:21pm
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Originally Posted by Girma View Post
I remember opining about this earlier, but it’s stuff like this that really illustrates why my interest has dwindled over time. The social aspects of this game have systematically been excised in favor of solo-play efficiency, and while that’s probably the right decision for a game with such a broad player base, it takes away from the value inherent to a persistent world.
Wait...what? A new LFG system that will drop you right into a group for dungeons is damaging to the social aspect? Considering how beneficial it is to get groups for badges it's nothing but an improvement. If you want the social aspect from playing with friends on your server only, it's still there.
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post #457 of 726
10/29/09 at 1:28pm
It reduces the incentive to actually getting to know people on your server, the same way cross-server battlegrounds, arenas and transfers have.

I’m not saying these are objectively bad changes, as the player base clearly couldn’t come up with a way to more broadly deal with group based objectives, but more and more I see a game where, eventually, individual servers become meaningless, and you have no idea who you’re playing with—or against—on any given day.
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post #458 of 726
10/29/09 at 6:57pm
The new LFG tools broaden the social side of the game without forcing you to leave your own server or guild. Since launch the most difficult part of group content has been finding a group so you can begin. I was pleasantly surprised to see Blizzard move in this fashion to address one of the game's current shortcomings.
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post #459 of 726
11/5/09 at 4:44am
Some new soundbytes have been Datamined from the new Icecrown raid and Instances.
http://www.wow.com/2009/11/04/patch-...ing/#continued
pretty interesting stuff.Makes me want 3.3 to hurry up and get here.
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post #460 of 726
11/5/09 at 4:47am
Niiiiiice. When I play WoW I'm either questing and grinding for an hour, doing a job on the side, or looking for a group for an instance, usually with very rare success. I still haven't done a Raid yet.

So fellas, how does Stormscale sound for a WoW guild? No complaints?
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post #461 of 726
11/5/09 at 10:38am
A CHUD guild and you're not going to title it "The Sewer" ?

And yeah, my guild fell apart. Started something new, but I really don't want to be an officer and go through guild building again. Fucking sucks.
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post #462 of 726
11/5/09 at 12:32pm
My best friend and I are discussing going Horde side, just for a change of pace. Definitely interested in a Horde PVE guild if we get one going. I might even server change my warlock for shits and giggles.
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post #463 of 726
11/5/09 at 1:20pm
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Originally Posted by Domingo View Post
Niiiiiice. When I play WoW I'm either questing and grinding for an hour, doing a job on the side, or looking for a group for an instance, usually with very rare success. I still haven't done a Raid yet.

So fellas, how does Stormscale sound for a WoW guild? No complaints?
Stormscale? Really?
If you are going to do a Chud guild it's gotta incorporate the name, no? Or at least something to do with the website.

The Sewer isn't bad. The Chewer Sewer, The Chudites or you could just totally sell out and go Chud.com.

And whats with this PvE stuff? Gotta go PvP.
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post #464 of 726
11/5/09 at 1:22pm
Stormscale is a server, guys.
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post #465 of 726
11/5/09 at 1:23pm
The Sewer Chewers is what we've always been called, that seems like the best name.
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post #466 of 726
11/5/09 at 1:27pm
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
The Sewer Chewers is what we've always been called, that seems like the best name.
Not bad.
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post #467 of 726
11/5/09 at 1:46pm
Are you guys seriously going to get a Chud guild together?
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post #468 of 726
11/5/09 at 2:03pm
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Originally Posted by bob loblaw View Post
And whats with this PvE stuff? Gotta go PvP.
Had my fill of ganking within a month of launch. I still get a chill up my spine when entering STV.
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post #469 of 726
11/5/09 at 2:06pm
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Had my fill of ganking within a month of launch. I still get a chill up my spine when entering STV.
I know what you're saying about STV, but it just takes a huge dynamic out of the game...the constant danger. Plus at some point you will be able to turn the tables.
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post #470 of 726
11/5/09 at 2:07pm
There's enough constant danger from NPC mobs without having to worry about getting jumped by a stealthed night elf thirty levels higher than you while trying to talk to a vendor.
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post #471 of 726
11/5/09 at 2:08pm
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
There's enough constant danger from NPC mobs without having to worry about getting jumped by a stealthed night elf thirty levels higher than you while trying to talk to a vendor.
Yup. I enjoy playing the game, not running back from graveyards. If I want to PVP I'll go to a BG or WG, which I never do.
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post #472 of 726
11/5/09 at 3:05pm
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
There's enough constant danger from NPC mobs without having to worry about getting jumped by a stealthed night elf thirty levels higher than you while trying to talk to a vendor.
This happens like 2% of the time. I guess if you don't like being under the constant threat that's one thing. But danger from NPC mobs? What danger are you speaking of?

For me there is a certain excitement to questing and rounding corners only to find a member of the opposite faction staring me in the face. Does he want fight? Does he just want to ignore me and continue questing? Should I kill him because he is about to mine that titanium ore that I want to mine? Should I run because he is 8 levels above me? I just don't see why you would take this aspect out of the game because you get occasionally frustrated by the lvl 80 gnome rogue that attacks Tauren Mill.
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post #473 of 726
11/5/09 at 3:35pm
My buddy and I are looking at Blackhand and Nesingwary right now. Trying to check on what the servers are like, and what guilds there are offering.
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post #474 of 726
11/5/09 at 3:40pm
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Originally Posted by bob loblaw View Post
For me there is a certain excitement to questing and rounding corners only to find a member of the opposite faction staring me in the face. Does he want fight? Does he just want to ignore me and continue questing? Should I kill him because he is about to mine that titanium ore that I want to mine? Should I run because he is 8 levels above me?
If PvP were like that, I'd be right there with you. But too often it's some level 60+ douche getting his/her jollies by griefing lower level characters who are just trying to use a flight master or buy items from a vendor.

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I just don't see why you would take this aspect out of the game because you get occasionally frustrated by the lvl 80 gnome rogue that attacks Tauren Mill.
It's not occasionally. I can't log in to my character at Tauren Mill without either a) getting ganked, b) seeing PCs and NPCs that have just been ganked or c) seeing the "Tauren Mills is under attack!" notification. Sure, I could leave and go somewhere else, but I shouldn't be denied access to content because some players are immature jerks.

For all its faults, Warhammer Online did PvP right. If you went to an area you were too high a level for, you got turned into a chicken with no gear and no abilities. So when you did run into an enemy PC, you were on an equal playing field, and there was a charge of excitement. Not the feeling of "Well, there goes that quest, better run like hell."
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post #475 of 726
11/5/09 at 3:53pm
Different strokes for different folks I guess. I play on a PvP server now and there are certainly ganking hotspots that you need to navigate through carefully, but I have never cared too much about getting ganked knowing that one day I could do the same thing should I choose. Plus, if you are in a guild with some dedicated "friends" its always fun to call in the calvary to help clean up a situation.
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post #476 of 726
11/6/09 at 4:09pm
It's been reported that the next content patch will install a function similar to the third-part Questhelper add-on.

I'm curious to know what you guys think, as the CHUD forums are not known for sympathy toward retards. Do you suppose players who find it a burden to follow written directions on where to go and what to do when you get there are likely to be worthwhile PuG or raid members?

Do you think they have enough curiosity to learn their class, spec, and role?

Do you find levelling so difficult that this addition to the game was necessary?
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post #477 of 726
11/6/09 at 4:30pm
Is it an option that can be toggled on or off? If so I see no problem with it. I know that many quests I've dealt with have been maddeningly vague in terms of the physical locations of things, but I don't see this as a truly necessary addition. I don't see it as a game ruining one either. And again, if you can turn it off, I don't see it as an issue at all.

And I don't think the PuG or Raid comment is really valid, because instances and raids are such a world apart from basic world quests. You don't really "learn" anything about how to do them from killing 10 Moon Elk and getting 15 Saber Turtle Farts, you only really learn how to do raids by doing raids.
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post #478 of 726
11/6/09 at 4:54pm
I love Carbonite, and have been using it for a long time. Blizzard wants to get away from lots of quest text, and into visualizing quests for the players. Just seems like another move in that direction. Wanting to finish quests quickly and easily doesn't correlate to raid skill.
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post #479 of 726
11/6/09 at 5:17pm
I am down for a chud guild. I agree with Bob, pvp servers add that extra thrill, but to each their own. I started as hord on a pve server (Kaz Modan) and it's not bad. Eventually I got hooked on a pvp server (Bloodscalp) and now I hardly go back. It's definetly much easier to be in Tarren Mills/ Gadgetztan though.
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post #480 of 726
11/6/09 at 6:26pm
Okay, I'm starting the guild today. It will be called The Chewer Sewer, and it will be on a high population PVP server, unless the majority of folks here want PVE?
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post #481 of 726
11/6/09 at 6:35pm
I'd prefer PvE, but I'll go with the majority.
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post #482 of 726
11/7/09 at 2:46pm
I won't mess with PVP. I hates it.
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post #483 of 726
11/16/09 at 8:45pm
Mr. T has hacked the game again. Check around the starting zones.

The Murloco's Tacos T-shirt he's modelling can be had here.
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post #484 of 726
11/23/09 at 2:55pm
Thread Starter 
Happy birthday, World of Warcraft, you rascally five year old you. I have spent...well, enough time with you, I suppose, over those years. (Dreads checking the /played message)
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post #485 of 726
11/23/09 at 6:54pm
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Originally Posted by Doc Happenin View Post
Happy birthday, World of Warcraft, you rascally five year old you. I have spent...well, enough time with you, I suppose, over those years. (Dreads checking the /played message)
Mine is really close to a full two years...
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post #486 of 726
11/24/09 at 5:07am
I got 3 Toons with more than 3 months played each,not to mention 2 others with a month
/sigh
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post #487 of 726
12/4/09 at 4:19pm
Dude "finishes" WOW:

http://www.computerandvideogames.com....php?id=228680
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post #488 of 726
12/9/09 at 3:28am
3.3 hit today,the new 5 man instances in Icecrown are fucking epic.Hope i can get into the raid this weekend.
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post #489 of 726
12/9/09 at 9:56am
I can see the Random Dungeon thing really revitalizing the game for a lot of people. That's such a great idea.
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post #490 of 726
12/9/09 at 11:12am
The random dungeon tool is amazing. Tinkered with it a bit last night after fixing my add ons. If you use Xperl, I recommend Stuf until it is updated. Hoping to try out the new 5 man, and ICC this weekend. Possibly transferring to Rexxar to a really cool guild, but waiting to be accepted. Hope I get to sit with the cool kids.
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post #491 of 726
12/9/09 at 11:14am
Oh man, I can actually HEAR your dick shrinking after that post.
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post #492 of 726
12/9/09 at 11:18am
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Originally Posted by Brad Millette View Post
Oh man, I can actually HEAR your dick shrinking after that post.
You couldn't have heard much then.
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post #493 of 726
12/9/09 at 12:23pm
Thread Starter 
Alright, it's been 24 hours. Who's beaten Arthas? And not silly 5 man Arthas, I'm talking the real deal.
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post #494 of 726
12/9/09 at 12:27pm
Nobody has, because that's not in the game yet. They're opening the Icecrown raid in stages. Next phase opens in 28 more days.
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post #495 of 726
12/9/09 at 12:31pm
Thread Starter 
Bah. I deserved that. Thank you, Brad, haven't gotten a chance to play it yet.
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post #496 of 726
12/9/09 at 12:34pm
I think this is actually a better idea. People are going to whine about it since they can't just get Arthas on farm status right away and act like that actually makes them important people and not pathetic wastes of zygotic material, but stretching out the final raid before Cataclysm seems pretty smart.
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post #497 of 726
12/9/09 at 12:35pm
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Originally Posted by Brad Millette View Post
Nobody has, because that's not in the game yet. They're opening the Icecrown raid in stages. Next phase opens in 28 more days.
Artificial road blocks ftw! At least they're being open about the roadblocks now instead of "accidentally" having things happen which keep guilds from advancing.
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post #498 of 726
12/9/09 at 12:37pm
I had quit shortly after Burning Crusade, so tried the 10-day Trial for Lich King. Since they don't let you hit 71, it took one day to cancel again. Without the levelling hamster wheel, the game just feels too empty for me. It's a gigantic world filled with signposts and speedbumps.

WoW really reminds me of the Sims. Both games are filled with things to do, but none of them are all that interesting. In WoW, despite the massive world, if you want to accomplish anything, you're stuck on a pretty narrow path. There are few real challenges and even fewer surprises.

The trial was useful though - it reinforced that I won't be interested in any MMOs until someone breaks out of the tired mold that WoW follows. Blizzard has pretty much perfected this kind of game, but this kind of game tops out at "mildly amusing" for me.
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post #499 of 726
12/9/09 at 12:37pm
Wow you couldn't have timed that post better, A-Pathetic.
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post #500 of 726
12/9/09 at 12:41pm
I think Farsight really hit the nail on the head for me. The fact that there are much more engaging and captivating RPGs out there, combined with the fact that I neither have time nor patience for raiding, impelled me to stop playing months ago.

That said I am dying to know how Icecrown turns out. Just because, you know, as a fan of the Warcraft games, I need to know.
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