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Travis Barker badly burned in deadly plane crash

post #1 of 62
9/20/08 at 1:29pm
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http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Musi...ash/index.html
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post #2 of 62
9/20/08 at 1:33pm
Damn, all those tats will be a blur now.
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post #3 of 62
9/20/08 at 1:39pm
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This particularly struck me as weird:

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He identified them as pilot Sarah Lemmon, 31, of Anaheim Hills; co-pilot James Bland, 52, of Carlsbad
Female pilots are pretty rare, right? And the co-pilot is 52? Weird, I'd expect that to be the reverse. Were these buddies of Barker?
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post #4 of 62
9/20/08 at 2:40pm
Further fuel for my consistent belief of "Fuck Private Jets."
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post #5 of 62
9/20/08 at 3:52pm
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This particularly struck me as weird:



Female pilots are pretty rare, right? And the co-pilot is 52? Weird, I'd expect that to be the reverse. Were these buddies of Barker?
So... a woman can't fly a plane? The co-pilot being 52 is a problem as well? 52 isn't exactly an old age. Also he could be doing this as a part time gig to reach retirement.
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post #6 of 62
9/20/08 at 5:15pm
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Originally Posted by Barkatthemoon View Post
Damn, all those tats will be a blur now.
Especially if they have to do skin grafts.
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post #7 of 62
9/20/08 at 5:34pm
Wow. Terrible news. Burn injuries are sufficiently horrific enough as is, but the dangers are so long term. Multiple surgeries, risk of infection...not to mention the treatment is much more painful than the actual cause of the wounds in some cases. Good luck to them both.
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post #8 of 62
9/20/08 at 5:45pm
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Further fuel for my consistent belief of "Fuck Private Jets."
Ditto.
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post #9 of 62
9/20/08 at 5:57pm
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Originally Posted by Shen Annigans View Post
Wow. Terrible news. Burn injuries are sufficiently horrific enough as is, but the dangers are so long term. Multiple surgeries, risk of infection...not to mention the treatment is much more painful than the actual cause of the wounds in some cases. Good luck to them both.
So, reading this and then reading this:

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Travis Barker has been burned from the waist down, but he is expected to survive the plane crash. DJ AM's face was severely burned and is being tended to right now.
...makes me think "OUCH".

Two-Face and No-Penis Boy. New band name?
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post #10 of 62
9/20/08 at 7:47pm
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So... a woman can't fly a plane? The co-pilot being 52 is a problem as well? 52 isn't exactly an old age. Also he could be doing this as a part time gig to reach retirement.
I didn't say anything was wrong with it, I said it was unusual.

But I'll never fly in a private jet with a woman in the pilot's chair...
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post #11 of 62
9/20/08 at 8:22pm
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Originally Posted by Barkatthemoon View Post
Damn, all those tats will be a blur now.
They say his burns were below the waist and DJ AM has burns to the face.
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post #12 of 62
9/20/08 at 8:29pm
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So... a woman can't fly a plane? The co-pilot being 52 is a problem as well? 52 isn't exactly an old age. Also he could be doing this as a part time gig to reach retirement.


Stop ruining the world with these comments please.
and read better.
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post #13 of 62
9/20/08 at 11:02pm
Somewhere, Amy Winehouse is drinking "Jack", snorting Drano, and injecting lighter fluid while these two struggle to live.
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post #14 of 62
9/20/08 at 11:49pm
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Originally Posted by Barkatthemoon View Post
Somewhere, Amy Winehouse is drinking "Jack", snorting Drano, and injecting lighter fluid while these two struggle to live.
It's the guy from Blink 182. I don't see the horror in her outliving him.
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post #15 of 62
9/21/08 at 12:00am
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Originally Posted by Barkatthemoon View Post
Somewhere, Amy Winehouse is drinking lighter fluid, snorting Drano, and injecting "Jack"
Repairs complete.
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post #16 of 62
9/21/08 at 12:03am
What are the odds that the only two survivors would be the "celebrities" on board?

I smell a conspiracy.

A nonsensical, pointless conspiracy.
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post #17 of 62
9/21/08 at 12:06am
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Originally Posted by devincf View Post
It's the guy from Blink 182. I don't see the horror in her outliving him.
Travis looked as though he took more than one shower per year. That in itself puts him highter on the food chain in my book.
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post #18 of 62
9/21/08 at 12:11am
Really? She's talented. He's not.
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post #19 of 62
9/21/08 at 12:49am
Fuck. I'm shattered by this news. I was listening to "What's My Age Again" just yesterday with my father. Little did we know that Travis was fighting for his life. I had to phone my father at work to let him know, and he seemed to go into shock. Fuck private planes, man. That lady crashing the plane was the height of selfishness; I can't believe they let someone that young and that female fly a plane. Baah. My thoughts and prayers go out to Travis Barker and his family right now. I have no words.

That said, I remain fairly indifferent to the grim fate of DJ AM.
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post #20 of 62
9/21/08 at 12:55am
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Really? She's talented. He's not.
Really? She's like, showing up and playing gigs now?
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post #21 of 62
9/21/08 at 12:56am
What does that have to do with talent? Is Travis Barker a more talented drummer than Keith Moon because Moon is dead? You're judging talent like it's about on-time performance.
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post #22 of 62
9/21/08 at 1:12am
Travis is actually a pretty decent drummer for the genre he played. That, however, is praise for keeping your crayon coloring inside the lines.
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post #23 of 62
9/21/08 at 2:48am
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What does that have to do with talent? Is Travis Barker a more talented drummer than Keith Moon because Moon is dead? You're judging talent like it's about on-time performance.
Amy recorded an album. She walked (or was carried) into a recording studio, and an engineer flipped switches and turned knobs to make her voice sound good. That's not talent, that's technology. Have you yourself actually stood in an audience and heard her sing? Been witness to her "talent"?

Futhermore, I never implied Travis had any talent at all. It was just my opinion he deserved to live longer than Amy because he seemed to enjoy living more. Having a wife, kids, and a career versus laying around doing drugs all the time.
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post #24 of 62
9/21/08 at 2:53am
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Amy recorded an album. She walked (or was carried) into a recording studio, and an engineer flipped switches and turned knobs to make her voice sound good. That's not talent, that's technology. Have you yourself actually stood in an audience and heard her sing? Been witness to her "talent"?
She wrote those songs.
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post #25 of 62
9/21/08 at 2:57am
After he makes it can we then discuss his talent? it's possibly just me,but it's a bit fucking cruel to be debating people's worth of life based on their supposed musical ability when their actual life is on the line.
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post #26 of 62
9/21/08 at 3:02am
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Futhermore, I never implied Travis had any talent at all. It was just my opinion he deserved to live longer than Amy because he seemed to enjoy living more.Having a wife, kids, and a career versus laying around doing drugs all the time.
I don't care if someone makes the decision to lose themselves in drugs, because hey, I think she'd argue (if her jaw hasn't fallen off yet) that she gets way more out of life than people who don't use drugs. And maybe she does. If this life is totally meaningless in the end, then who's to say how you should spend you're time here on Earth?

Doesn't having a wife, kids, and a career prevent you from enjoying life?
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post #27 of 62
9/21/08 at 3:04am
Travis Barker is actually a really good drummer wasted on a ton of shitty bands.
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post #28 of 62
9/21/08 at 9:53am
Travis Barker blows. This is GOOD news.
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post #29 of 62
9/21/08 at 11:10am
I can assure you no good old boys are drinking whiskey and rye as a result 0f this.
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post #30 of 62
9/21/08 at 11:12am
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Originally Posted by Shen Annigans View Post
After he makes it can we then discuss his talent? it's possibly just me,but it's a bit fucking cruel to be debating people's worth of life based on their supposed musical ability when their actual life is on the line.
On the other hand, it's a bit fucking stupid to invest on the survival of C-list celebs just because they are (semi)famous. Is there anyone here that's been touched by the art of the drummer from Blink 182? Does anyone really feel the world will be a poorer place if he never touches a set of drums again? On a human level, I wish him well but his well-being is no more important to me than that of the other 6 billion people on the planet.
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post #31 of 62
9/21/08 at 12:53pm
I do enjoy Blink 182, not in a "I consider it real music", but in a "I've had decent experiences that involved their songs playing somewhere + they were famous in a cool time for me kind of way" and so, even if I never liked them that much, I heard the greatest hits albums and could enjoy it colored by stuff not related to them at all, like nostalgia and random synapses. So I guess, I have the same reaction I'd have if I knew somebody I knew but never really cared for say in high school was in something like this... not particularly 5 stages of mourning, but at least a "oh dang, shame I guess" shrug feeling and then its gone...

And by the "would the world be any poorer if he kicks it" argument, then we could endorse open genocide in pretty much every place and solve overpopulation overnight...
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post #32 of 62
9/21/08 at 1:07pm
True... I'm sure he and his music were responsible for a few fingerbangings a few Chewers may have given a ways back. Credit where credit's due.
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post #33 of 62
9/21/08 at 1:25pm
The fact that we're discussing Travis Barker instead of the poor bastards who actually didn't make it out of the plane alive tells you all you need to know really.


People only care because he was in a band that they may have heard on the radio while driving around in their Nissan Altima while rolling a joint sometime in the late 90's/early 2000's. I don't think we should be celebrating his almost demise but I also think we shouldn't put too much stock in his death if he actually had passed away outside of basic human empathy.

It's the drummer from Blink 182 not Einstein or Hunter S. Thompson we're talking about here. Why famous people, who's contributions to the greater cultural fabric are minimal at best, are mourned in mass when they die continues to confound me.
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post #34 of 62
9/21/08 at 1:52pm
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Originally Posted by Raspberry Leper View Post
I can assure you no good old boys are drinking whiskey and rye as a result 0f this.
Winner.
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post #35 of 62
9/21/08 at 2:12pm
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People only care because he was in a band that they may have heard on the radio while driving around in their Nissan Altima while rolling a joint sometime in the late 90's/early 2000's.
Well yeah, exactly. I couldn't possibly care for any of the ones that died because they are statistics to me. If I've never met my neighbour and hear he dies it's a pretty big whatever. If I only saw him in passing to my house but we exchanged nods, I'd might have a reaction.
Just like a lot of people overreact over the death of people with small amounts of fame (no doubt thanks to the media, but really we should stop expecting any better and consider it a glorified blog), a lot of people seem like too offended or something that peope raise an eyebrow over this sort of thing. Again, whatever. A big amount of people have nothing resembling a personal connection so they reserve their grief for people they see on screens pretending to be someone else? Congratulations. I'm sure they might also enjoy phone sex lines. Does it offend you/bother you that they care about them instead of say someone you care about? Then you are really no better. At least those grieving are doing so over people with an amount of fame, even if undeserved. You are caring over the shrieking hordes of the anonymous dumb.
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post #36 of 62
9/21/08 at 2:35pm
I can't wait until DJAM dies and E! has a career retrospective for the guy who's famous for fucking someone who's famous for some nebulous reason. I can only hope Joel McHale hosts it.
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post #37 of 62
9/21/08 at 3:11pm
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Well yeah, exactly. I couldn't possibly care for any of the ones that died because they are statistics to me. If I've never met my neighbour and hear he dies it's a pretty big whatever. If I only saw him in passing to my house but we exchanged nods, I'd might have a reaction.
Just like a lot of people overreact over the death of people with small amounts of fame (no doubt thanks to the media, but really we should stop expecting any better and consider it a glorified blog), a lot of people seem like too offended or something that peope raise an eyebrow over this sort of thing. Again, whatever. A big amount of people have nothing resembling a personal connection so they reserve their grief for people they see on screens pretending to be someone else? Congratulations. I'm sure they might also enjoy phone sex lines. Does it offend you/bother you that they care about them instead of say someone you care about? Then you are really no better. At least those grieving are doing so over people with an amount of fame, even if undeserved. You are caring over the shrieking hordes of the anonymous dumb.



Ummm...okay.


The fact that it's only considered a tragedy or some great loss because of one's marginal celebrity status is one of the dumbest fucking things I've ever read. We're not talking about "Wow, that's shitty" if he had died. We're talking about "OMG!!!! Travis Barker of Blink 182 was almost killed." I find it funny that your callous enough to equate the loss of non-framous people as meaningless statistics but assign some sort of gravitas to a drummer in a rock band..and not a particulary notable one at that.


We don't need a national day of mourning and extoll the virtues of someone everytime they shuffle off this mortal coil just because you saw them on TRL once and they seemed like a nice enough fellow.
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post #38 of 62
9/21/08 at 3:15pm
He's already a voice inside my head.
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post #39 of 62
9/21/08 at 4:00pm
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Ummm...okay.

The fact that it's only considered a tragedy or some great loss because of one's marginal celebrity status is one of the dumbest fucking things I've ever read. We're not talking about "Wow, that's shitty" if he had died. We're talking about "OMG!!!! Travis Barker of Blink 182 was almost killed." I find it funny that your callous enough to equate the loss of non-framous people as meaningless statistics but assign some sort of gravitas to a drummer in a rock band..and not a particulary notable one at that.

We don't need a national day of mourning and extoll the virtues of someone everytime they shuffle off this mortal coil just because you saw them on TRL once and they seemed like a nice enough fellow.
Yeah, ehm, exactly?
I didn't mention it being some sort of "tragedy" but I guess what I actually wrote or meant doesn't matter when you already care for whatever reason.

It's also very easy to find stuff "funny" when you only read what you feel like reading, or does your point not completely died since I also equated the drummer of the pointless rock band with the neighbour I've never spoken to? I wasn't aware that qualified as "gravitas". Good to know now. Apparently I owe a whole lot of people a lot of mourning or something then.

But again, you are reading whatever the hell you felt when you read the news and read comments of dumb people, and you apparently give the morons going "ZOMG" more importance for their half-thought youtube-equivalent comments than whatever made Travis Barker famous, which I guess is more than that.

I do kinda like the idea of extolling the virtues and the like, since its so amusing how much people care over the attention paid to corpses they consider "unworthy".
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post #40 of 62
9/21/08 at 4:45pm
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Yeah, ehm, exactly?
I didn't mention it being some sort of "tragedy" but I guess what I actually wrote or meant doesn't matter when you already care for whatever reason.

It's also very easy to find stuff "funny" when you only read what you feel like reading, or does your point not completely died since I also equated the drummer of the pointless rock band with the neighbour I've never spoken to? I wasn't aware that qualified as "gravitas". Good to know now. Apparently I owe a whole lot of people a lot of mourning or something then.

But again, you are reading whatever the hell you felt when you read the news and read comments of dumb people, and you apparently give the morons going "ZOMG" more importance for their half-thought youtube-equivalent comments than whatever made Travis Barker famous, which I guess is more than that.

I do kinda like the idea of extolling the virtues and the like, since its so amusing how much people care over the attention paid to corpses they consider "unworthy".


Oh for fuck's sake.....
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post #41 of 62
9/21/08 at 5:43pm
Good point.
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post #42 of 62
9/21/08 at 5:50pm
DJ AM apparently used to be like 400lbs.
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post #43 of 62
9/21/08 at 6:08pm
And now he's 395 lbs with a charcoal briquette for a head.

Edit: Evidently he had gastric bypass surgery so he's not fat anymore (I didn't know who he was before the plane crash). Maybe he'll go mad and haunt the catacombs beneath Club LAX.
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post #44 of 62
9/21/08 at 10:15pm
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Originally Posted by devincf View Post
What does that have to do with talent? Is Travis Barker a more talented drummer than Keith Moon because Moon is dead? You're judging talent like it's about on-time performance.
Stop acting like you know anything about drumming.

Saying he's not talented is laughable,
and is just based on your contempt for the band he was in.
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post #45 of 62
9/21/08 at 10:20pm
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Edit: Evidently he had gastric bypass surgery so he's not fat anymore (I didn't know who he was before the plane crash). Maybe he'll go mad and haunt the catacombs beneath Club LAX.
The extra pounds just melted away. Yesterday.
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post #46 of 62
9/21/08 at 10:25pm
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Stop acting like you know anything about drumming.

Saying he's not talented is laughable,
and is just based on your contempt for the band he was in.
He does play Rock Band.

Barker was an adequate drummer, who was just in shitty bands.
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post #47 of 62
9/21/08 at 11:02pm
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He does play Rock Band.

Barker was an adequate drummer, who was just in shitty bands.
Saying someone knows anything about drumming because they play Rock Band is the same as saying anyone who has played Sim City could be the mayor of New York (though I'm pretty sure, or at least hope you're kidding about that). As far as Travis Barker, I will half agree with you, he has played in some shitty bands, but in seeing some tapes, he's an extraordinary drummer, very creative is his use of syncopation, but also very tight. I've always thought of him as kind of a pop-punk version on Neal Pert. Comparing him to Amy Winehouse makes no sense, but that's one of the reasons I cringe when someone posts news like this on these boards. Travis Barker could have been burned while saving kids from a burning orphanage, and whoever brought it up here would still get blasted because he played drums for Blink-182.
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post #48 of 62
9/21/08 at 11:11pm
I was joking and being an ass with the Rock Band comment.
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post #49 of 62
9/22/08 at 10:18am
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Two-Face....
DJ AMMAJD
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post #50 of 62
9/22/08 at 10:25am
Oh shit, he's gone Palindrome!

Why So serious DJ?
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