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Days of Heaven (1978)

post #1 of 12
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I feel that there's a lot more to this film than I was able to pick up on. The cinematography is fucking incredible, obviously, even more beautiful than Badlands (which is a favorite of mine), but it felt very unfocused (after reading about it's production history, that doesn't surprise me) and I didn't really understand the characters too much, outside of the basic plot. To be fair, I watched it with subtitles off, which I don't often do because I have such poor hearing, so I couldn't quite make out a lot of the dialog, but it didn't seem as tight and thematically connected as Badlands.

But with a movie like this, I'm always going to give it the benefit of the doubt until I can see it again.

Fucking beautiful, though.
post #2 of 12
Badlands was tight? Really?
post #3 of 12
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As far as movies go, I suppose it's incorrect to call Badlands a "tight" movie, but it's certainly tighter than Days of Heaven. And Badlands was much more personal and intimate than Days of Heaven, so I could see where the characters were coming from, there's the utterly captivating performances from both Martin Sheen and Sissy Spacek, so it never lost my interest. Days of Heaven would have bored me if it weren't so immaculately shot.
post #4 of 12
Wow, if Badlands was a "tight" movie I can't even fathom what Days of Heaven must've been like. Still I bet it had more going on than Gus Van Sants "Twenty minutes without a cut in which a guy makes a sandwich" trilogy.


Still, I can't wait for MILK though. But that's another story.
post #5 of 12
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And I LIKE loose, sprawling movies, as long as they always give me a reason to be interested.
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I can understand that but if there really is nothing going on and the camera is still there. It seems just more of an art piece and even a test of patience rather than some kind of attempt at story telling.
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There's a lot more to a film than just the story though. I haven't seen Gerry, but I like Last Days an awful lot because it's pace forces the audience to reflect on the events on-screen, and their significance on a larger scale. Last Days works because, being about Kurt Cobain, you already know how it's going to end, which adds a weight to everything that comes before. But part of what makes that kind of movie work is how objective the camera work is, and how it serves to merely observe the events, rather than to tell you what to think about them. It doesn't reveal the inner life of the characters.

Days of Heaven isn't like that though. Through it's very stylized cinematography and voice overs, it's not so objective. The inner life of the characters IS revealed, though often you have to read between the lines, since the girl who narrates isn't, when it's all said and done, the main character of the film.
post #8 of 12
Days of Heaven is one of my absolute favorite films and I highly recommend the recent Criterion release of it. The film's story itself is, quite literally, biblical: it takes the sister-wife narrative structure that recurs quite a few times in the Old Testament--circumstances lead a man and his wife to leave their home, he's afraid the guys oogling his wife will kill him if they see him as a sexual obstacle, so he poses as her brother and a king or other social elite takes the "sister" as a wife with tragic consequence--and marries it to Malicks views of society, which are heavily influenced by Heidegger. Things that kind of telegraph that sensibility and should be noted are:

1) Notice that the murder that sets the narrative in motion takes place in an industrial complex.

2) The land that the family flees to and finds success in is rural, which is kind of a "back to nature" flight.

3) The long tracking shot of the train and the screen time given to the plane goe into the Heiddger/Arendt bent that technology has made the world smaller and radically changed our sense of communit and our concept of the political.

4) The murder that concludes the narrative is commited with a screwdriver, which is another mechanical implement/sign of technology and industry.
post #9 of 12
I love Badlands, but I love Days of Heaven more. Both are personal favorites of mine, I really need to check out Thin Red Line and New World.

The story is simple but I find it compelling enough, and if you're going to tell a story using mostly images this is how you do it as far as I'm concerned. This or 2001.
post #10 of 12
The New World is I think highly underrated, to me its both sides of Malick finally achieving some sort of cohesion, also it was shot on 65mm, and for some damn reason is not on Blu yet.
post #11 of 12
Also, the context is partly silents, so think of it in reference to Sunrise.
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Just watched this, just an amazing movie. I think I connected with Badlands more and probably appreciated A New World's craft a little more, but I think there's something at the heart of Days of Heaven that I can't rationally explain. I'm an atheist, but the film feels almost mythical to me, like some unwritten old-testament story carried out at the turn of the century. I think partially it's due to the locusts, but I think the relatively sparsity of dialogue and broad character relationships makes it feel far grander and broader than it is. It's a story of jealously and a hope for something better, about how want can destroy things, about men separated by their circumstances and affections, but because it's all played out in muted tones it just gains this universal feel and cadence. 

 

I kind of love a scene early on which juxtaposes the farmhands working through a field with a threshing machine and the various animals living in the grass. It's shot almost apocalyptically from the animals point of view, and tranquilly from the farmhands. Just really striking. 

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