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post #701 of 1157
10/14/08 at 1:51pm
Not when people try to pass it off as a real picture, really, do we have to go down to that level?
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post #702 of 1157
10/14/08 at 1:53pm
But seriously, it's not even close to being all that bad. Besides, we all know what the 'peace' sign backwards means in the UK, amirite?
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post #703 of 1157
10/14/08 at 1:53pm
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Originally Posted by ElCapitanAmerica View Post
Not when people try to pass it off as a real picture, really, do we have to go down to that level?
I don't know that there was some grand scheme to pass it off as real.

You take everything way too seriously.
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post #704 of 1157
10/14/08 at 1:54pm
It was, from DU, then again DU is a cesspool ...
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post #705 of 1157
10/14/08 at 5:27pm
a nice find

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post #706 of 1157
10/14/08 at 5:32pm
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Originally Posted by Jared Melton View Post
But seriously, it's not even close to being all that bad. Besides, we all know what the 'peace' sign backwards means in the UK, amirite?
It's bad because it's an innocent kid. If it was Sarah Palin I'd not even give a shit. Besides, the older Palin spawn are scandalous enough, with no Photoshop trickery required.
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post #707 of 1157
10/14/08 at 5:33pm
The creepy part is that anyone in their right mind ever described the woman in that picture as "hot".

Or "candidate".

Is there a picture of Obama, Biden, McCain, or even Hillary wearing anything remotely that hideous and silly at a public appearance?

And I'm surprised there hasn't been more public criticism about how every day is "bring your daughter to work day". Quite the female role model, dragging the kid along for political currency.
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post #708 of 1157
10/14/08 at 6:01pm
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Originally Posted by Master Shake View Post
It's a shop. The girl in the original photo is holding up her index finger as well, making either a 'two' sign or silently declaring herself a hippie.
She was just flipping the kid off UK style.

Which is so un-American.
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post #709 of 1157
10/14/08 at 6:13pm
Heh.

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post #710 of 1157
10/14/08 at 6:17pm
Lame.

So, I strongly disagree with Sarah Palin and pretty much everything she stands for, but type of joke above isn't really representing the democrats, are they? We're winning and for the most part we're taking the higher ground. It's kind of inspiring that people are responding negatively to McCain's negative attacks. So why make sexist retard jokes?
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post #711 of 1157
10/14/08 at 6:25pm
Horrible.
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post #712 of 1157
10/14/08 at 6:27pm
Cringeworthy
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post #713 of 1157
10/14/08 at 6:37pm
I'm going to be honest. I laughed. Sorry, ladies and people with special needs.
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post #714 of 1157
10/14/08 at 7:21pm
Yeah, that was gloriously uncouth. The dickhead in me would've laughed even if I liked Palin.

The preceding statement does not represent the views of Barack Obama, Joe Biden, their campaigns, party, supporters, families, pastors, or pets. It represents precisely that I'm a raging asshat.
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post #715 of 1157
10/14/08 at 7:33pm
I didn't say it was tasteful. I just said "heh", which was my first reaction when I found it on the wonderful Internet.

I also wouldn't say that joke represents the Democrats at all. It's just tasteless Internet humor making fun of a moron (and taking a jab at the mentally challenged at the same time). It's not as shocking to me as the rabid mobs of Palin supporters screaming for murder.

Besides, what else is the Internet for besides having fun at the expense of the retarded? I don't find Down's Syndrome Vampire funny at all, but I defend the Internet's right to make fun of him.

Anyway, we all know it was Bristol's baby, so moot point.
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post #716 of 1157
10/14/08 at 7:34pm
Since when did you uptight people get jobs in the Obama campaign? That was funny.
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post #717 of 1157
10/14/08 at 7:38pm
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Originally Posted by Parker View Post
Lame.

So, I strongly disagree with Sarah Palin and pretty much everything she stands for, but type of joke above isn't really representing the democrats, are they? We're winning and for the most part we're taking the higher ground. It's kind of inspiring that people are responding negatively to McCain's negative attacks. So why make sexist retard jokes?
I don't think the Democrats are going to be nearly as magnanimous in victory as you would like to think they are. Hell, a lot of them aren't being magnanimous with only the prospect of victory driving them.

I know the Dems like to paint themselves as the kindler, gentler party, but at the end of the day there's a lot of pissed off people and, frankly, most of us aren't nearly as high minded and noble as we like to think we are.
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post #718 of 1157
10/14/08 at 7:40pm
Besides, I'm not a Democrat, so it's okay for me to laugh, right?
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post #719 of 1157
10/14/08 at 7:41pm
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Originally Posted by Scratch View Post
Heh.
His grin in the third panel makes it.
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post #720 of 1157
10/14/08 at 7:42pm
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post #721 of 1157
10/14/08 at 7:55pm
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Originally Posted by devincf View Post
That's fucking fantastic.
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post #722 of 1157
10/14/08 at 7:57pm
And old! We laughed at that several hours ago! Got to keep up Devin!
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post #723 of 1157
10/14/08 at 10:17pm
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Originally Posted by Farsight View Post
The creepy part is that anyone in their right mind ever described the woman in that picture as "hot".

Or "candidate".

Is there a picture of Obama, Biden, McCain, or even Hillary wearing anything remotely that hideous and silly at a public appearance?

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Compared to Clinton, Obama, Biden or McCain, she IS hot!
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post #724 of 1157
10/14/08 at 11:16pm
Breaking news: every time you make a joke, it counts as a final statement about everything you believe in and is representative of any fictional distinction or "group" you might belong to.

In related news: the correct answer to any "why make [insert evil adjective] jokes?" is "because it's funny". Incidentally, the premise of this thread is that palin is, in fact, nothing but a gigantic joke so LOL is the only appropriate response to her very existence.
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post #725 of 1157
10/14/08 at 11:22pm
So gender based jokes are ok, but racial ones are not? Just trying to understand the "logic" here ...
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post #726 of 1157
10/14/08 at 11:30pm
Yes. I explicitly said that, in between the lines and without typing it!
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post #727 of 1157
10/14/08 at 11:30pm
Thread Starter 
None of those gifs mock Palin for being a woman, so they're not sexist, though they may be tasteless.
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post #728 of 1157
10/14/08 at 11:32pm
Whirlybird's find deserves more love, by the way.
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post #729 of 1157
10/14/08 at 11:42pm
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Originally Posted by ElCapitanAmerica View Post
So gender based jokes are ok, but racial ones are not? Just trying to understand the "logic" here ...
I see nothing here that looks down on her being a woman. She's looked down on for being an idiot and for having a Down's baby. Being a moron is gender neutral, and it takes two to make a Down's baby. One could just as easily cast aspersions on the First Dood's inferior sperm. She just happens to be the half of the brilliant creative team behind Trig Palin that's got the vagina. Gender and racial based jokes are OK, because that's not the same as racist jokes or sexist jokes, which are usually bad news.

Which is not to imply that this joke is in good taste -- it is most certainly not, but I wouldn't want to live in a world where jokes had to be in good taste.

As for the MY PUSSY'S SO HOT... that's just purely silly. As offensive as finding something that Biden said that could be mistaken for MY COCK IS GIGANTIC from the lip movements.

EDIT - Christ I'm slow. And Whirlybird's find is the shit. THEY LIVE is a film that truly changed the way I look at the world when I originally saw it in my younger, more impressionable years, and it's sure as hell applicable here.
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post #730 of 1157
10/14/08 at 11:44pm
It does say "political discourse" at the top of the page. I'm just sayin.
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post #731 of 1157
10/14/08 at 11:50pm
I'm not trying to be overly sensitive, but I guess I don't see the fine line. When discussing Palin, it usually doesn't stop at mocking her intellect or policies (or lack of), a lot of these jokes would not be made of a male politician.

As for making fun of her failure to produce a "healthy" baby, wow ... I guess I'm too PC for that but I do see a gender component that is obvious in that, as again, I've never seen people really make fun of politician's kids with special needs. She can't be the only one.

I would also be interested in the opinion from female CHUD posters, as the father of 3 daughters I'm kind of interested on what they would think about this and if I'm being too PC.
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post #732 of 1157
10/15/08 at 12:02am
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Originally Posted by ElCapitanAmerica View Post
I'm not trying to be overly sensitive, but I guess I don't see the fine line. When discussing Palin, it usually doesn't stop at mocking her intellect or policies (or lack of), a lot of these jokes would not be made of a male politician.
Clenis.
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post #733 of 1157
10/15/08 at 12:20am
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Originally Posted by Andre Dellamorte View Post
None of those gifs mock Palin for being a woman, so they're not sexist, though they may be tasteless.
My problem with them is that they're just not funny, but that's business as usual around here. This place is like a Dean Martin roast sometimes.
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post #734 of 1157
10/15/08 at 12:59am
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Originally Posted by devincf View Post
Let me ask a serious question, If I beat off to this-will I go blind?

Actually, if I do decide to "whack a mole" to this, I will absolutely wear a Ronald Regan mask..
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post #735 of 1157
10/15/08 at 2:38am
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Originally Posted by ElCapitanAmerica View Post
I'm not trying to be overly sensitive, but I guess I don't see the fine line. When discussing Palin, it usually doesn't stop at mocking her intellect or policies (or lack of), a lot of these jokes would not be made of a male politician.
If that male politician was a bimbo, they just might.
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post #736 of 1157
10/15/08 at 3:17am
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Originally Posted by ElCapitanAmerica View Post
I'm not trying to be overly sensitive, but I guess I don't see the fine line. When discussing Palin, it usually doesn't stop at mocking her intellect or policies (or lack of), a lot of these jokes would not be made of a male politician.

I think that personal attacks on Palin are bound to be different from similar attacks on a male politicians simply because their personalities are fundamentally, differentially defined by their respective genders.


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As for making fun of her failure to produce a "healthy" baby, wow ... I guess I'm too PC for that but I do see a gender component that is obvious in that, as again, I've never seen people really make fun of politician's kids with special needs. She can't be the only one.

I think that many people, including myself, are emotionally charged by Palin's condescending, conscienceless, anti-intellectual demeanor, and have taken attacks on her well beyond the norm. I think she comes off as a cruel and arrogant person, and given her profound stupidity and aversion to knowledge, she comes off as a natural enemy of most of what I hold dear and true. I'm willing to feel guilty about making fun of a Downs Baby for the chance to laugh at a perfectly worded Palin joke.
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post #737 of 1157
10/15/08 at 3:44am
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Originally Posted by flindip View Post
Let me ask a serious question, If I beat off to this-will I go blind?
All I know is that this ain't no braille keyboard over here. Know what I'm sayin'??? High five!
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post #738 of 1157
10/15/08 at 3:55am
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Originally Posted by ElCapitanAmerica View Post
a lot of these jokes would not be made of a male politician.
G-Dub is a fucking idiot and he's been made fun of quite similarly in terms of intellect. If he manages to shit out a Down's baby maybe then the comparison will be fully apt.
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post #739 of 1157
10/15/08 at 4:28am
I guess we should all stick to knock knock jokes. Saying "that's not funny because it's inappropriate" is like saying "that's not sexy because there's nudity". Cultural sensitivity is not funny.
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post #740 of 1157
10/15/08 at 6:35am
I want something real rude, come on!
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post #741 of 1157
10/15/08 at 8:36am
The thing with Palin is that there is enough to laugh at about her without shit like that.
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post #742 of 1157
10/15/08 at 11:40am
http://palinaspresident.com/

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Originally Posted by ElCapitanAmerica View Post
I would also be interested in the opinion from female CHUD posters, as the father of 3 daughters I'm kind of interested on what they would think about this and if I'm being too PC.
I chuckled. Palin puts her gender and kids out there every chance she gets. The "jokes" are just reflecting that. The proof is in the pudding. We didn't see these kinds of thing about Hillary Clinton. And, in fact, when real sexism reared its ugly head (people shouted "go iron my shirts" at Hillary's public appearances, or made news stories about her crying on the campaign), no one gave a shit and told her to toughen up. MILF and retarded baby jokes may be un-PC, but that's pretty much the point. It's less about sexism, and more about being as inappropriate as possible.
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post #743 of 1157
10/15/08 at 11:50am
It wasn't hilarious, and I wouldn't tell it at a work picnic, but find me the lie in that joke. Palin is a gibberish-spouting car wreck. If you think the joke somehow targets downs babies or women, you might be retarded.
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post #744 of 1157
10/15/08 at 12:07pm
I don't know what you mean by "targets" but the "joke" surely uses those elements to mock her, in a way that I believe wouldn't be done to a male politician.

Diva, btw, there was a discussion of those things during Hillary's run. DaveB was really the voice of reason during that time. But I do remember people accusing Hillary of crying on purpose or dishonestly to use that as an advantage. Some also warned that Palin "better not cry" in the debate, and when Biden did it nobody seemed to mind. How can that not make one suspicious?

I think a few of you simply turn a blind eye to some of these things based on how a person matches your personal politics, that is all.
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post #745 of 1157
10/15/08 at 12:21pm
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Originally Posted by ElCapitanAmerica View Post
I don't know what you mean by "targets" but the "joke" surely uses those elements to mock her, in a way that I believe wouldn't be done to a male politician.
Yes, because Clinton's infidelities were met with restraint and dignified discourse.
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post #746 of 1157
10/15/08 at 12:27pm
As much as I respect you as a poster, I do think you have a little too much sand in your vagina. I mean you are aware of where you're posting right? But I do agree we're being a little too mean to the baby. I mean after all ,in fairness to little Trig, he is the least retarded thing to come out of Sarah Palin.
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post #747 of 1157
10/15/08 at 12:27pm
How do his infidelities compare at all with the mere fact that she's a woman and gave birth to a child with Down's Syndrome, which many of these jokes seem to insert every other time.

See, people make fun of Bush for being dumb, but don't refer to his sexual organs all the time to make that joke work. Same goes for Dan Quayle.
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post #748 of 1157
10/15/08 at 12:30pm
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Originally Posted by ElCapitanAmerica View Post
Some also warned that Palin "better not cry" in the debate, and when Biden did it nobody seemed to mind. How can that not make one suspicious?
Well, clearly, with Palin, they were referencing crying out of frustration and confusion over intense questioning, extrapolating from her unease in the Couric interviews. With Biden, the crying was over a genuine emotional moment, as he responded to Palin's claim that she understood what it was to raise a family in these times with his own experience as a single father in hard times.
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post #749 of 1157
10/15/08 at 12:36pm
What I meant was people were anticipating her crying in the debate as a way to gain symphaty, I can only assume this was even brought up becase she's a woman.

Same thing with Hillary, again, if she cried in a debate I doubt the reaction would have been the same.
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post #750 of 1157
10/15/08 at 12:37pm
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Originally Posted by ElCapitanAmerica View Post
How do his infidelities compare at all with the mere fact that she's a woman and gave birth to a child with Down's Syndrome, which many of these jokes seem to insert every other time.

See, people make fun of Bush for being dumb, but don't refer to his sexual organs all the time to make that joke work. Same goes for Dan Quayle.
Palin's not dumb, just woefully ignorant.

And the retarded joke wasn't about Palin's sexual organs. It was a play on words. If you can't see how that joke writes itself, I don't know what to say.
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