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post #51 of 161
10/24/08 at 12:56am
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I seem to recall Ned and Chuck kissing through saran wrap last season. Did I just make that up?
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post #52 of 161
10/24/08 at 12:57am
You didn't. It happened. They also had that device like the ones they got in hospitals to hold babies inside of incubation.

But that's not enough to have sex. Seeing chuck naked? Cmon!
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post #53 of 161
10/24/08 at 2:25am
Ned DID say he'd built 'devices' a couple of episodes ago...
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post #54 of 161
10/24/08 at 7:11pm
They seem to use the dog as proxy...
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post #55 of 161
10/24/08 at 7:18pm
That ending was the cruelest thing I've ever seen.
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post #56 of 161
10/24/08 at 7:20pm
Ned Can't touch Digby.
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post #57 of 161
10/24/08 at 7:46pm
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You didn't. It happened. They also had that device like the ones they got in hospitals to hold babies inside of incubation.
I remember that. Ned stuck his hands in the weird plastic glove things in order to hug Chuck. I don't really get that though. It doesn't make sense that Ned can touch a person through clothes and reanimate them, but it doesn't work through plastic. Maybe that's why they stopped using those devices on the show. Still, I can't imagine the sexual frustration they both must have. Geez!
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post #58 of 161
10/24/08 at 7:48pm
It's not really an issue for me, but has the show been inconsistent with the rules of Ned's powers? I thought he always brought the corpses back to life by touching skin to skin. Has he brought people back through their clothes?
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post #59 of 161
10/24/08 at 7:54pm
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I'm not sure, actually. I'm just thinking of last ep when the mummified corpse fell through the glass at Ned. The corpse was fully covered and it looked like Ned accidentally brushed it's arm or something.
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post #60 of 161
10/24/08 at 7:58pm
Ah, I just rewatched that part and Ned actually has his hands all over the body to pick him up. It only comes back to life when Ned's hand tries to support the guys neck/head and his finger touches the back of the neck (through the hair).

But I introduced the show to some friends with the clown murder episode and they kept asking me questions about the rules. It was kinda annoying. They thought they saw him bring back a clown through clothes. I just went, "I dunno... whatever."
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post #61 of 161
10/24/08 at 7:59pm
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Ned Can't touch Digby.
Way to think put too much thought into my crude joke, Argentinian!
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post #62 of 161
10/24/08 at 8:03pm
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Ah, I just rewatched that part and Ned actually has his hands all over the body to pick him up. It only comes back to life when Ned's hand tries to support the guys neck/head and his finger touches the back of the neck (through the hair).

But I introduced the show to some friends with the clown murder episode and they kept asking me questions about the rules. It was kinda annoying. They thought they saw him bring back a clown through clothes. I just went, "I dunno... whatever."
Ha! I just rewatched it too. How'd you do it so fast?

Yeah, you have to get people to watch Season 1 first. I complained back then that they spent too much time setting up the story. But it was actually a good introduction to Ned and what he can and can't do. I can't believe I forgot about the skin to skin contact.

Which reminds me, I love the reveal that Ned's a vegetarian. There'd be nothing more disgusting that meat coming alive in his mouth!
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post #63 of 161
10/24/08 at 8:28pm
I had just finished watching the show, so I just rewound back to that part.
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post #64 of 161
10/24/08 at 11:15pm
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Originally Posted by Diva
Which reminds me, I love the reveal that Ned's a vegetarian. There'd be nothing more disgusting that meat coming alive in his mouth!
Bah, an In 'n' Out burger is well worth the effort of touching it twice!
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post #65 of 161
10/26/08 at 3:53pm
Has Ned mentioned being a vegetarian before? Obviously it makes total sense, 'cuz the first time your steak comes back to life and starts squirming in your mouth would probably put you off for life. EDIT: oops, missed Diva's post. That does raise the question of what happens if he touches a dismembered arm or something, though. I mean, if he touches a steak, do ALL the steaks made from that cow come back to life? I mean, ew.

How can we NOT think about Ned and Chuck masturbating or whatever? The show practically dares you to think about this stuff. Remember the fake arm from last season? Geh. This show is indeed pretty fucked up if you think about it.

Seriously though, I really think they need to get into dealing with Ned's powers, where they come from, and how he can find an off switch. You'd think the guy would be more motivated than ever to get some answers, now that he has a hot naked girlfriend he can never touch. I assume this proposed crossover with "Dead Like Me" (which I never saw) would get a little more into the show's mythology.
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post #66 of 161
10/26/08 at 4:16pm
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Seriously though, I really think they need to get into dealing with Ned's powers, where they come from, and how he can find an off switch. You'd think the guy would be more motivated than ever to get some answers, now that he has a hot naked girlfriend he can never touch. I assume this proposed crossover with "Dead Like Me" (which I never saw) would get a little more into the show's mythology.
How would he go about it though? If Ned wants to keep this a secret he can't go digging around. Until Pee Wee comes back I doubt we'll get any answers.
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post #67 of 161
10/30/08 at 7:50am
Soooooo good.
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post #68 of 161
10/30/08 at 10:24am
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I am not interested in watching a show investing where Ned's powers come from. I do wish they would spend a little time (not much though) on how he and Chuck plan to keep this relationship going given that he has these powers.

Simone! She needed no introduction by the narrator. Loved her in Season 1 and glad they brought her back. I'm happy Emerson is getting more screen time. He was too much of a background player last season. His attraction tp her lead to some funny bits. I forget the exact phrasing...

Emerson: What have you been up to?
Narrator: Something about how the last time Simone and Emerson met they were interested in...
Simone: Breeding.

Also right before Simone and Emerson get down and dirty, she clicks her obedience clicker and tells Emerson to "Come".
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post #69 of 161
10/30/08 at 11:05am
Ralston and Maurice's reaction to learning Ned was their half-brother was absolutely priceless.
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post #70 of 161
10/30/08 at 12:44pm
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I loved their Ned eyebrows. Those things looked huge caterpillars on their faces.
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post #71 of 161
10/30/08 at 1:01pm
Such a great show... I really don't want it to be canceled.

Going back to the questions we had earlier: How was Ned able to shake Stephen Root's hand without killing him?
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post #72 of 161
10/30/08 at 1:29pm
Sombody I'm sure will prove me wrong on this theory but I suspect the reason Ned's old man abandonded him is because he has the same resurrection powers and used them on Ned when he was young and now they can never touch.
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post #73 of 161
10/30/08 at 1:35pm
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Such a great show... I really don't want it to be canceled.

Going back to the questions we had earlier: How was Ned able to shake Stephen Root's hand without killing him?
Who's Stephen Root?
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post #74 of 161
10/30/08 at 1:37pm
The friend of Ned's dad that came to the Pie Hole.
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post #75 of 161
10/30/08 at 1:41pm
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Thanks, Dickson. I'm pretty sure he's not a friend.

Mangy, why would Ned's touch kill him? He's not dead. Or do you mean that Ned should be upset that the guy interrupted Ned's fantasy of pushing family out of his life forever?
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post #76 of 161
10/30/08 at 1:49pm
Ah, nevermind...I got the "rules" mixed up. I thought that people also died when Ned touched them. It's just dead people..um, that die, when Ned... My head hurts.

Anyway, helluva show.
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post #77 of 161
10/30/08 at 2:11pm
Dead people that Ned has brought back to life, that is.

And I really hope Ned's dad doesn't have the same power. That just seems to obvious for this show.

My dream scenario is that the huge shock wave we see in Dead Like Me when Betty hitches a ride over to the other side with one of the reaped souls is somehow responsible for Ned's power. Doubtful, but I can hope.
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post #78 of 161
10/30/08 at 2:22pm
Thanks for the clarification. Agreed re: Ned's dad.

Anyone know if they have finished filming the season's first batch of episodes? If (god forbid) ABC pulls the plug on the show, I hope that the mysteries involving Ned's dad and Emerson's daughter are cleared up.
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post #79 of 161
10/30/08 at 2:29pm
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I will be so upset if ABC cancels Daisies. There are so many boring formulaic procedural shows on TV these days (who the hell watches all those CSI and Law and Order shows?), its a shame something this creative and emotionally compelling will get the axe. This is the network that stuck by Lost, even in its down period, so I have hope.

Also, the rules of Ned's power are simple:

1. Ned's touch can bring dead animals, plants, fruit, humans back to life.
2. If they stay alive longer than 60 seconds, something(s) of equal size will die to take its place.
3. If Ned touches the reanimated thing/person again, they die again.

We've also learned that the touch must be skin to skin contact. So Ned can't reanimate people by touching them through clothes.
Ned's pies are always delicious because he reanimates rotted fruit to their ripened state, and the bugs/cockroaches that live in the sewer under die in their place. Ned can't eat meat because the flesh would probably reanimate in his mouth.

Edit: To clarify the rules.
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post #80 of 161
10/30/08 at 3:12pm
Thanks, Diva!

Re: cancellation - I want the show to last a while, but I'm afraid that ultimately the prohibitive per episode cost is going to sink it.
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post #81 of 161
10/30/08 at 3:29pm
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3. If Ned touches the reanimated thing/person before the 60 seconds is up, they die again.
If he touches them again at all, they die again, permanently. That's how his mother died permanently, and that's why he can't touch Chuck.
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post #82 of 161
10/30/08 at 4:01pm
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If he touches them again at all, they die again, permanently. That's how his mother died permanently, and that's why he can't touch Chuck.
Duh! I somehow combined that rule with the second one. Yeah, if Ned doesn't touch a reanimated corpse before 60 seconds someone else dies. But regardless of whether someone else keels over due to the 60 second rule, if Ned touches the reanimated person a second time they re-die.
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post #83 of 161
10/30/08 at 4:58pm
2 come jokes during prime time? Awesome. Such a dirty minded little show. And every time I watch, I think, "This is going to be the last episode. I'm surprised it's not cancelled yet."

I'm loving that every week, Olive and Chuck are doing teamup undercover dressup shit. Cause those costumers always find some hot stuff to put them in.

"You do know what twins are, right?"

"...that would cause an uncomfortable fullness of the bladder." "Boss, I've got an uncomfortable fullness of the bladder."

And then like, 3/4ths of the way through, it becomes an Ocean's 11 spoof.

Simone is fucking hot.
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post #84 of 161
10/30/08 at 7:36pm
I'm losing interest in the show not through lack of enjoyment (after the first episode, season two has been great), but due to its imminent cancellation. I find I can't sustain interest in anything that I believe is going to be prematurely ending its television run. I call it the Deadwood Effect. Or, perhaps the "Entire Fox Network" effect would be appropriate.

Someone convince me that Pushing Daisies is going to survive.
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post #85 of 161
10/30/08 at 9:11pm
Sorry, man, but that would be a sugar coated lie. It's dead, unless last night the ratings were great, and the only thing to hope for is that they get to finish off the season or that ABC notices most of the returning shows have shit ratings as well.
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post #86 of 161
10/30/08 at 10:12pm
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This is the network that stuck by Lost, even in its down period, so I have hope.
Lost, during its down days, was getting about 15 million viewers, I think. PD is getting about 6. But I do think ABC loves this show, so as dire as it looks, I could see them at least giving it a new timeslot or something. The show has always had to start off the night, and that's a lot to ask for a new show. I could see them trying it next to Desperate Housewives or Dancing With the Stars to see if that helps the ratings. I just refuse to believe they'll cancel it without trying something to save it.
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post #87 of 161
10/30/08 at 10:23pm
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I'm losing interest in the show not through lack of enjoyment (after the first episode, season two has been great), but due to its imminent cancellation. I find I can't sustain interest in anything that I believe is going to be prematurely ending its television run. I call it the Deadwood Effect. Or, perhaps the "Entire Fox Network" effect would be appropriate.

Someone convince me that Pushing Daisies is going to survive.
Thats a terrible attitude to have. ABC needs to know that at least the core fans of the show will stick by it. If you bail at the slightest sign of cancellation, you're just ensuring its demise by contributing to its falling ratings.

Plus, I rather watch a great show knowing it won't last than watch crap. Arrested Development had some of its funniest episodes during the last season when they knew the show was on its last legs. The way they worked pot shots at Fox into the plotline of each episode was brilliant. It made me love the show that much more.
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post #88 of 161
11/1/08 at 12:53pm
So so so so good.

"See, what we really need here is a mirror" destroyed me.

Also, Olive catching the engagement ring when the girl threw it away "uh, shiny"
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post #89 of 161
11/1/08 at 6:51pm
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Sorry, man, but that would be a sugar coated lie. It's dead, unless last night the ratings were great, and the only thing to hope for is that they get to finish off the season or that ABC notices most of the returning shows have shit ratings as well.
I'm hoping the new theory of "the economy is shit so we can't start new shows, let's keep the ones we have" saves this show. I mean, if fucking Knight Rider can be saved from the axe, surely something actually good and fun can be saved too, right?
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post #90 of 161
11/2/08 at 4:59pm
every time I see this thread bumped I fear he worst. Shame it's not on Sunday to get DH audience.
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post #91 of 161
11/4/08 at 6:53pm
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Thats a terrible attitude to have. ABC needs to know that at least the core fans of the show will stick by it. If you bail at the slightest sign of cancellation, you're just ensuring its demise by contributing to its falling ratings.

Plus, I rather watch a great show knowing it won't last than watch crap. Arrested Development had some of its funniest episodes during the last season when they knew the show was on its last legs. The way they worked pot shots at Fox into the plotline of each episode was brilliant. It made me love the show that much more.
Please keep in mind that my watching or not watching a show has nothing to do with its cancellation. There's no wiggle room with that conclusion. A single viewer is never going to make or break a show.

I only have so much energy in me for doomed television shows, and I've just about spent it all. I'm at the point where I wait a season before trying anything new if I suspect it might not last. I lay a lot of the blame at the feet of Deadwood, though Angel, Firefly, Veronica Mars, Arrested Development, and a few other recent cancellations have contributed.
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post #92 of 161
11/6/08 at 3:15pm
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Was there a new episode last night? My DVR didn't tape one.
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post #93 of 161
11/6/08 at 3:19pm
Nope.
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post #94 of 161
11/6/08 at 4:20pm
I noticed folks keep mentioning Pushing Daisies crossing over with Dead Like Me. I thought it was crossing over with Fuller's other show Wonderfalls.

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Yup, I looked it up. There was an interview with Bryan Fuller on iFMagazine:

"iF: Now you had WONDERFALLS on Fox for a short period of time before it got abruptly cancelled, but you gained PUSHING DAISIES. It must be a bit of a bittersweet feeling.

FULLER: Very bittersweet because I loved [WONDERFALLS] and the cast. So much so, that I had to do a WONDERFALLS crossover in this season of PUSHING DAISIES. That happens in episode eight of the second season and I’m really excited about it."


My wife and I really love this show. For a show that has been nominated for multiple awards and has won a few, it doesn't deserve the treatment it's getting.
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post #95 of 161
11/20/08 at 1:56pm
Stephen Root was great on last nights episode.
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post #96 of 161
11/20/08 at 9:11pm
Looks like the show's been canceled. Not that surprising, but still a shame.

Last night's ep was the 6th of the season, so we have seven more to enjoy.
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post #97 of 161
11/20/08 at 9:17pm
Did anybody notice that last night was the first ep that not only had the whole gang solving the mystery together but also without the help of Ned power.
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post #98 of 161
11/20/08 at 10:01pm
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Emerson and Olive continue to be highlights. And man, the puns are on full force lately. I love it though.

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Looks like the show's been canceled. Not that surprising, but still a shame.
Fuck! If that's the case, EW reported that the season - er show - finale will end on a cliff-hanger.

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Did anybody notice that last night was the first ep that not only had the whole gang solving the mystery together but also without the help of Ned power.
Ned brought Herman back to life.
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post #99 of 161
11/20/08 at 10:48pm
But it didn't lead to the killer. They thought the geek was dead. He Himself revealed that he wasn't.

"Magic twin powers" and Fred Willard were great.
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post #100 of 161
11/21/08 at 12:16am
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Looks like the show's been canceled. Not that surprising, but still a shame.
God dammit ABC. Why must you kill the things that I love?

According to IGN Fuller is already looking into starting a comic book series to finish the story off, and prepping a movie pitch. I'd rather a movie than a comic series, the only thing that makes the dialogue really work is the line delivery, and the comic would have the most cramped speech bubbles imaginable.
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