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post #101 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:05am
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Originally Posted by EvilTwin View Post
I must confess my sin, I've never seen THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE. Definitely something I need to remedy.
Yes you do.

One of the few horror flicks that scared the shit out of me even though I saw it in broad daylight.
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post #102 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:05am
The scariest movie of all time (in my opinion) is in!

Saw it during the day too. I'll tell you I might've been scared more shitless the second time on TCM than the first. Same goes with Alien.
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post #103 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:06am
I'm fuckin' up lately. I think I'll shut up for awhile.

EDIT: I really am sorry guys.
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post #104 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:06am
Nice pics so far. And Renn, this is ridiculous. You've been in other drafts. You know the deal. What the fuck?
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post #105 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:06am
Glad to see nobody's arguing against ALIEN--well except Renn for bizarre personal reasons. Despite the sci-fi trappings, about as Horror as it gets. Pure claustrophobic terror.

Kudos on TEXAS CHAINSAW. Growing up, was about as disturbing as it got (at least for this conservative kid). seemed almost overwhelming. Now, I'm amazed at the sense of humor; how funny it plays.
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post #106 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:07am
I feel so helpless having such a late pick. Every movie that I truly love ANA is worthy of a first round pick is going to be gone. I'll be fine in later rounds I think, but I'll probably end up on Kabong's worst list for the first round.

Nice picks so far. All very appropriate.
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post #107 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:07am
Mattioli with a very nice pick that worries me.
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post #108 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:08am
C'mon Cordo!
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post #109 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:09am
Mattioli: Fucking up my draft, I see. It looks like several of us will be drawing water from the same well for this draft.
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post #110 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:13am
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Originally Posted by Judas Booth View Post
Mattioli: Fucking up my draft, I see. It looks like several of us will be drawing water from the same well for this draft.
Well, y'know, I do what I do when I do what I do.
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post #111 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:13am
I don't know if DRACULA would have been the first one from that era that I would have taken, but Bela Lugosi turns in one of the most iconic performances ever. And the Transylvania scenes work great.

Part of a theme?
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post #112 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:14am
Anyone who hasn't seen the original Texas Chain Saw Massacre are in over their heads in this draft. It's a cornerstone of "modern" (post Hammer) horror. I'm reading Renn's thoughts on "appreciating" Halloween, and I can see what he's saying; there is nothing at all quaint about TCM. It's horrifying and feels more "real" than almost any horror movie I've ever seen. (and it's out on Blu Ray this week. Get it!)

I have a post from my blog about it I wanted to share, but it names other films, so I'll hold off.
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post #113 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:16am
Texas Chain Saw Massacre definitely horrified me when I saw that one.

EDIT: Have your damn space.
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post #114 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:18am
First time I saw Texas Chainsaw was when I was 13. It was like 3:00 AM and I immediately had to go out and deliver newspapers in the darkness. That was fun.

All solid choices so far, and I've only lost one of my picks. Yay?

Tommy Five-tone and I have nearly the same awesome avatar. ATKINS!
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post #115 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:18am
Points to Phil for TCM. Double and triple points to Phil for spelling/spacing it properly.
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post #116 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:26am
Chainsaw is the remake. Fuck that.

I edited down that blog post. My thoughts on the climate that birthed TCM:

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Children have been scared by horror stories since the original Grimm Fairy Tales. (The first versions. The ones that end with little kids being killed and eaten.) Since then, social morés have ebbed and flowed, we've had a Hays Code here, a Dr. Wertham there, and by the second half of the 20th century, scaring little kids just kinda became frowned upon.

That all changed in (year another movie was released). Roger Ebert marked the occasion in a review of the film:

"The kids in the audience were stunned. There was almost complete silence. The movie had stopped being delightfully scary about halfway through, and had become unexpectedly terrifying. There was a little girl across the aisle from me, maybe nine years old, who was sitting very still in her seat and crying."

Suddenly kids could get dropped off at the movie house, left in front of the tv, or through some other accidental act of negligence get the living shit scared out of them for the first time in decades.

This new breed of horror didn't play fair. It did not adhere to the "spooky" clichés of Universal or Hammer. This wasn't Vincent Price in a cheesily-lit castle. To quote a colorful character who was sitting behind me in a 3D horror film 20 years ago – "THAT SHIT WAS REAL!"

Such films didn't last long, but while they did, it was a different playing field. These didn't feel like movies, and the effect was startling. The one film to pull this off better than any of them is 1974's The Texas Chain Saw Massacre.

In the 34 years since it was released, The Texas Chain Saw Massacre is still the one horror flick that I can watch and NEVER be able to imagine seeing behind the curtain. Not once does it feel like actors reading lines in pre-written scenes. (The fact that you never saw any of these faces again added to the film's grisly realism.) The photography is deceptively simple; it never looks "lit", but any working knowledge of cinematography tells you every frame is meticulously crafted.

None of the actors ever went on to mainstream work. The director got bigger budgets but, arguably, never even made another good film. Yet this film had and still has a relentless perfection to it, an insane power that can't be touched by sequel nor remake.
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post #117 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:32am
Seriously, Fuck Cordo.
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post #118 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:34am
Nice summary, Phil. Well said.
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post #119 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:35am
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Originally Posted by EvilTwin View Post
I don't know if DRACULA would have been the first one from that era that I would have taken, but Bela Lugosi turns in one of the most iconic performances ever.
Yeah, I surprised myself by being torn about my decision. In the end, Bela's performance made it the obvious choice. Who can possibly imagine the Count without seeing Bela in the role?
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post #120 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:35am
Fuck, I need someone to make my pick when the time is up. Someone PM me if they can do it.
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post #121 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:36am
I can.
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post #122 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:36am
EDIT-Nevermind
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post #123 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:37am
You know, I know The Exorcist is a well done movie, but it never scared me like the hype led me to believe.
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post #124 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:37am
It took that many picks to get to Night of the Living Dead?
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post #125 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:38am
In a perfect world NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD would've gone first.
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post #126 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:39am
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Originally Posted by Martin Savage View Post
You know, I know The Exorcist is a well done movie, but it never scared me like the hype led me to believe.
I know where you're coming from on that. It might just be that I wasn't raised Catholic.
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post #127 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:39am
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Originally Posted by Fat Elvis View Post
Nice summary, Phil. Well said.
Ha, the titles I censored out were both picked already. Uncut!

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Children have been scared by horror stories since the original Grimm Fairy Tales. (The first versions. The ones that end with little kids being killed and eaten.) Since then, social morés have ebbed and flowed, we've had a Hays Code here, a Dr. Wertham there, and by the second half of the 20th century, scaring little kids just kinda became frowned upon.

That all changed in 1968, when Romero & Co. unleashed Night of the Living Dead onto us. The film started with a few familiar horror stereotypes – Black & white film, thunder, a graveyard. But then the movie very quickly trounced all the horror film rules, and the reaction was severe. Roger Ebert marked the occasion in a review of the film:

"The kids in the audience were stunned. There was almost complete silence. The movie had stopped being delightfully scary about halfway through, and had become unexpectedly terrifying. There was a little girl across the aisle from me, maybe nine years old, who was sitting very still in her seat and crying."

Suddenly kids could get dropped off at the movie house, left in front of the tv, or through some other accidental act of negligence get the living shit scared out of them for the first time in decades. (I saw The Exorcist at the drive-in when I was three. Oops.)

This new breed of horror didn't play fair. It did not adhere to the "spooky" clichés of Universal or Hammer. This wasn't Vincent Price in a cheesily-lit castle. To quote a colorful character who was sitting behind me in a 3D horror film 20 years ago – "THAT SHIT WAS REAL!"

Such films didn't last long, but while they did, it was a different playing field. These didn't feel like movies, and the effect was startling. The one film to pull this off better than any of them is 1974's The Texas Chain Saw Massacre.

In the 34 years since it was released, The Texas Chain Saw Massacre is still the flick that I can watch and NEVER be able to imagine seeing behind the curtain. Not once does it feel like actors reading lines in pre-written scenes. (The fact that you never saw any of these faces again added to the film's grisly realism.) The photography is deceptively simple; it never looks "lit", but any working knowledge of cinematography tells you every frame is meticulously crafted.

None of the actors ever went on to mainstream work. The director got bigger budgets but, arguably, never even made another good film. Yet this film had and still has a relentless perfection to it, an insane power that can't be touched by sequel nor remake.
If TCM didn't exist, I would have picked NOTLD first.
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post #128 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:40am
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Originally Posted by Martin Savage View Post
You know, I know The Exorcist is a well done movie, but it never scared me like the hype led me to believe.
Same with me. This and another obvious classic have always left me cold.
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post #129 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:40am
And I obviously wasn't kidding when I said I know older horror films better. First pick? 1922.
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post #130 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:41am
See, I love The Exorcist, but I have to agree that I didn't find it as scary as I expected. It worked like gangbusters on this girl I was dating, though, and she was raised Catholic, so I definitely think that has something to do with it. Conversely, though, while it scared the shit out of her, she didn't think it was that good of a movie.
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post #131 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:42am
I'm going to start a list thread; everyone good with that?
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post #132 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:43am
Night of the Living Dead is a fantastic pick. It should have been drafted before a lot of other movies.
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post #133 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:44am
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Originally Posted by Eric Cordo View Post
I'm going to start a list thread; everyone good with that?
Works for me.
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post #134 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:44am
The Exorcist is a fantastically well made. And at the time, it was one of the scariest things ever. Specially if you are a little catholic boy!

I saw the re release like 7 years ago, and it wasn't as scary. But at the time, Linda Blair scared the shit out of the world.
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post #135 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:45am
Tati, you're a pick stealing rat bastard.
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post #136 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:46am
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Originally Posted by Eric Cordo View Post
And I obviously wasn't kidding when I said I know older horror films better. First pick? 1922.
SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DAMN YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That was MINE!!!!!!!!!!!!
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post #137 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:47am
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Originally Posted by Tati View Post
The Exorcist is a fantastically well made. And at the time, it was one of the scariest things ever. Specially if you are a little catholic boy!
Exactamundo. It's a movie that, while scary in its own right, can only completely terrify a catholic.
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post #138 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:48am
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Originally Posted by Martin Savage View Post
Night of the Living Dead is a fantastic pick. It should have been drafted before a lot of other movies.
Before the what, nine that came before it? All this top shelf stuff is roughly of the same caliber in film lovers' eyes (and all fairly obvious picks, NOTLD included), we're just dicking around with personal preference. NOTLD isn't slighted in any way here.
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post #139 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:48am
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Originally Posted by Judas Booth View Post
SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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post #140 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:49am
Every year I hold a Horror Movie watching party for Halloween. The Exorcist was the one movie that really freaked out one of my guests.

Incidentally, I have Halloween and The Thing scheduled for this year.
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post #141 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:49am
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Originally Posted by Phil View Post
Before the what, nine that came before it? All this top shelf stuff is roughly of the same caliber in film lovers' eyes (and all fairly obvious picks, NOTLD included), we're just dicking around with personal preference. NOTLD isn't slighted in any way here.
In order, my list was The Thing, Alien, NOLTD and Halloween. It's all a matter of choice. But I still love Night before any Body Snatcher movie.
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post #142 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:49am
See, I wasn't raised remotely religious, but I still found The Exorcist pretty fucking scary as a youth. I still maintain that the Christianity is the backdrop that I can take or leave, but the true horror is watching some innocent loved one go completely and utterly wrong.
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post #143 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:50am
Eric...I'm siccing F.W. Murnau on your ass.
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post #144 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:51am
Ingmar Bergman laughs at LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFT. At least he would if he was still with us.
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post #145 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:51am
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Originally Posted by Judas Booth View Post
Eric...I'm siccing F.W. Murnau on your ass.
He would say "Great pick."
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post #146 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:51am
Last few times I've watched The Exorcist, I've walked away from it thinking "Yeah, it's still great, but I'm not as scared as I used to be."

Then I'd turn off the TV, go to bed, and spend the next 7 hours staring at the ceiling, twitching and panicking at shadows. Never fails.

And the Version You've Never Seen Before is mostly pointless, save the Spider Walk, which is an easy way to bring my bladder to the brink of uncontrolled release.
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post #147 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:52am
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Originally Posted by Eric Cordo View Post
And I obviously wasn't kidding when I said I know older horror films better. First pick? 1922.
Well, that's one I can cross off my list. I have backups.
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post #148 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:53am
Dammit El Wack! Make your pick, so I can make mine! I want to go...so...bad!
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post #149 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:54am
Without the first Body Snatchers, odds are you don't have NOTLD.

The Exorcist - scared the hell out of me as a kid. As an adult, I find Father Karras' arc (loss of faith, putting his mother in a home, his guilt coming at him in the form of Pazuzu) to be the more terrifying, "grown-up" horror. If I had a kid, I might feel Ellen Burstyn's plight more heavily.

And the Version You've Never Seen sucks because it lets you in on the demonic shit before the characters are. In the original film, you experienced it as they did, and that was powerful; in the re-edit there are spooky faces hovering behind the characters and whatnot, which is less scary than your kid pissing on the rug in front of company. Doesn't add to the film. Overtinkering.
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post #150 of 2477
10/6/08 at 11:54am
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Originally Posted by EvilTwin View Post
Ingmar Bergman laughs at LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFT. At least he would if he was still with us.
Ingmar Bergman needed more tits. Fuck the Swede. Fuck him in his neck.
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