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Sleeping Beauty on Bluray

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Holy shit this looks amazing.
post #2 of 16
And it comes with a copy of the movie on DVD in the Blu-Ray case as well. That is great because my wife likes to fall asleep to movies she likes and we only have one Blu-ray player, and its not in teh bedroom.

That made her very happy.
post #3 of 16
Sold, if that's the case. That's what I wish all of them would do. Just give me a bare-bones movie on a DVD. Not even a menu. You just put the DVD in the player, and the movie starts.
post #4 of 16
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Apparently, the original film was on 70mm, making it a 2.55:1 aspect ratio. The sides had to be cropped because it just wouldn't fit on a DVD. This is probably why this was the first Disney classic released on Bluray. I haven't seen this movie in 20 years, and it still holds up (especially the big fight at the end. I want to airbrush it on the side of a van.). It's just so damn well-drawn.

This was the last animated feature before Disney's death, ensuing films like 101 DALMATIANS and THE ARISTOCATS had purposefully rough-looking backgrounds painted outside the ink and the thick-lined rough-sketch cel-animated characters. SLEEPING BEAUTY, on the other hand, employs perfect geometry decades before TOY STORY.

Now I have to find a way to explain to my friends why I own this.
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Now I have to find a way to explain to my friends why I own this.
Aurora's ass.
post #6 of 16
Works for female characters played by males in WoW. Picked this up for my little girl, can't wait to watch it with her. I think it's one of the few disney movies from that era that I haven't actually seen.
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Now I have to find a way to explain to my friends why I own this.
I know how you feel. I love this movie, but I'm embarrassed to stand anywhere near the display at Best Buy.
post #8 of 16
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Originally Posted by Scott View Post
Apparently, the original film was on 70mm, making it a 2.55:1 aspect ratio. The sides had to be cropped because it just wouldn't fit on a DVD. This is probably why this was the first Disney classic released on Bluray. I haven't seen this movie in 20 years, and it still holds up (especially the big fight at the end. I want to airbrush it on the side of a van.). It's just so damn well-drawn.

This was the last animated feature before Disney's death, ensuing films like 101 DALMATIANS and THE ARISTOCATS had purposefully rough-looking backgrounds painted outside the ink and the thick-lined rough-sketch cel-animated characters. SLEEPING BEAUTY, on the other hand, employs perfect geometry decades before TOY STORY.

Now I have to find a way to explain to my friends why I own this.

Aspect ratio and animation nerdiness follows:

Technirama was a horizontal 35mm format similar to VistaVision but with a slight anamorphic squeeze, filming at 2.25:1 aspect ratio with a huge negative size compared to regular 35mm. Reductions to standard vertical anamorphic 35mm prints were cropped to 2.35:1, 70mm prints were slight enlargements from the horizontal 35mm negatives, that were cropped to the standard 70mm ratio of 2.2:1. The cropping in either direction was so minor as to be negligible. The format was also used for BLACK CAULDRON decades later.



While it's true that SLEEPING BEAUTY and BLACK CAULDRON were the only American animated films produced in a large format process, they're often incorrectly claimed to be the only ones ever made that way. Japan produced at least one large-format animated film, not including the first demo reel for the US-Japan coproduction that eventually became LITTLE NEMO: ADVENTURES IN SLUMBERLAND - that demo directed by future Studio Ghibli director Yoshifumi Kondo. LITTLE NEMO went on to be made by a completely different staff in flat 35mm - but the final film's opening was certainly inspired by Kondo's 70mm demo. As for what that Japanese animated film that was actually made in 70mm was, I couldn't tell you offhand, but I saw the trailer somewhere once and they were quite upfront about the format. I can't find that trailer at the moment.

No excuses needed for owning SLEEPING BEAUTY. If a friend doesn't like it kick 'em in the dick a couple of times and kindly ask them to repeat themselves. If there's no dick to kick them in, it's probably a non-issue.
post #9 of 16
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Originally Posted by Scott View Post
Apparently, the original film was on 70mm, making it a 2.55:1 aspect ratio. The sides had to be cropped because it just wouldn't fit on a DVD. This is probably why this was the first Disney classic released on Bluray. I haven't seen this movie in 20 years, and it still holds up (especially the big fight at the end. I want to airbrush it on the side of a van.). It's just so damn well-drawn.

This was the last animated feature before Disney's death, ensuing films like 101 DALMATIANS and THE ARISTOCATS had purposefully rough-looking backgrounds painted outside the ink and the thick-lined rough-sketch cel-animated characters. SLEEPING BEAUTY, on the other hand, employs perfect geometry decades before TOY STORY.

Now I have to find a way to explain to my friends why I own this.
That explanation should be suffice.
post #10 of 16
That Japanese film I was thinking of was 1978's ORPHEUS OF THE STARS aka METAMORPHOSES aka WINDS OF CHANGE - apparently a US-Japan co-production that was made in English. It's Bakshi-esque madness from Sanrio, the company most famous for Hello Kitty. Released as WINDS OF CHANGE on VHS by RCA/Columbia. Investigation shows it was a blow-up from 35mm to 70mm, so Disney can indeed claim their large-format animated films are the only ones... as far as I can tell.
post #11 of 16
Correction Sleeping Beauty was released in 1957 although it had been in development for at least 6 years or more depending how technical you want to get, Walt knew the story was lacking, but released it any way of course he was busy playing with Disneyland and TV. He died of course in 66 so the Jungle Book was truly the last movie to benefit from his (all be it diminished) presence. 101 Dalmations actually lets see you all of the artist real work, unfortunately the movies that followed lacked the story to match the art work. The animation is still the same under Sleeping Beauty it just has not gone through an Inbetweener and lots of other cleening up. It was also the first time and last time the characters where styled to match the backgrounds, which either works or not depending on your stances to animation.

For those who love it that much head over to Michael Sporn Blog, in the recent past he has posted a massive amount of pre-production artwork which is more gorgeous than the film.
http://www.michaelspornanimation.com/splog/

And here is A Q&A about the restoration, and more info on the scope issues
http://animated-views.com/2008/once-...s-restoration/
post #12 of 16
I bought this yesterday under the guise of getting it for my girlfriend to watch. But, it was really for me.
post #13 of 16
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Sharpel, can you explain to me what's with the sketchy, sloppy-looking characters and background in DALMATIANS? Was it just a style that was popular at the time?
post #14 of 16
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That explanation should be suffice.
What's wrong with, "Fuck you. I like what I like."?
post #15 of 16
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Aurora's ass.
For some reason, Aurora always reminded me of Julie Newmar in the face (eyes, lips).


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Sharpel, can you explain to me what's with the sketchy, sloppy-looking characters and background in DALMATIANS? Was it just a style that was popular at the time?
It was the new xeroxing method they used. They'd transfer the rougher pencils ontop the cels with a machine instead of the classic and skill-required hand-inking.

http://www.celshader.com/classic/ink/ink.html
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What's wrong with, "Fuck you. I like what I like."?
We can't all be Frank Cobretti's.

A more diplomatic response is probably needed.
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