Are you a hipster? - Page 2

Any avant garde pretentious bullshit music that isn't actually good.

Seriously, you are all old men.

If this was the 70s you'd probably be criticising the kids into the Ramones and Crass.

Or to put it another way:

Arcade Fire says fuck you, The National says fuck you, 65daysofstatic says fuck you, Drive By Truckers says fuck you, the Yeah Yeah Yeahs (about three years ago) says fuck you, Sufjan Stevens says fuck you.....

Please, hipsters are boring. At concerts, they stand there and actually get pissed if people try to move around. Fuck that bullshit. Their posers, projecting a lifestyle they only pretend to live.

And I said any avant garde bands that aren't good, which dismisses a few of those. Arcade Fire can suck it.

That's weird, the Hipsters I know tend to get pretty into the music. Maybe there are transatlantic differences between our Scenesters and the US Hipsters.

This one doesn't listen to that music so I don't care what they say.

BTW, on average I see 10-20% goth at the concerts I go to.

The Goth movement will never die. When it ascending people flock to it because it's popular, when it's descending as a fashion people flock to it because it's outsider.

And I'd rather hang out with "goths" than "hipsters" anyways. AT least back in the day that is. Have no idea what's "in" now, and don't really care.

Spike, you're not a hipster. Give it up.

No I'm not, I'm a movie geek who happens to know some Hipsters and stole most of his music collection from them.

You don't know any hipsters, either. This is painfully obvious.

I don't care goth or hipster whatever. I've just never understood the tight pants.

Something everyone can agree on. Which would bring it back to the thread about keys. Full circle.

This is just going to devolve into me providing unfoundable anecdotal evidence of Hipsters and scenesters I know so I'm going to call it quits.

But I will defend my Hipster musical taste.

If you like the music, who cares right?

BTW, WTF with the keys?

Except that almost one of the bands you listed are hipster bands. Stop the self-immolation already and move on.

Well then I'm as confused about what a hipster is as everybody else is. So I apologise, I think I've confused some people I 'assumed' to be hipsters with actual hipsters.

Legitimate question

Would Beirut and the like have been classed as Hipster bands or am I completely off base?

The first I ever heard the term was when Elaine called Kramer a "hipster doofus," and the two words have been inextricably linked for me ever since.

Green Box.

I need more clearcut definitions of Hipster. I know NOT to shop at Old Navy. Where does that put me?

Hipster - Listens to bands that you have never heard of. Has hairstyle that can only be described as "complicated." (Most likely achieved by a minimum of one week not washing it.) Probably tattooed. Maybe gay. Definitely cooler than you. Reads Black Book, Nylon, and the Styles section of the New York Times. Drinks Pabst Blue Ribbon. Often. Complains. Always denies being a hipster. Hates the word. Probably living off parents money - and spends a great deal of it to look like they don't have any. Has friends and/or self cut hair. Dyes it frequently (black, white-blonde, etc. and until scalp bleeds). Has a closet full of clothing but usually wears same three things OVER AND OVER (most likely very tight black pants, scarf, and ironic tee-shirt). Chips off nail polish artfully after $50 manicure. Sleeps with everyone and talks about it at great volume in crowded coffee shops. Addicted to coffee, cigarettes (Parliaments, Kamel Reds, Lucky Strikes, etc.), and possibly cocaine. Claims to be in a band. Rehearsals consist of choosing outfits for next show and drinking PBR. Always on the list. Majors or majored in art, writing, or queer studies. Name-drops. May go by "Penny Lane," "Eleanor Rigby," etc. when drunk. On PBR. Which is usually.

From Urban Dictionary. This definition works too -

Someone who thinks that they are being "special" and "unique" for liking some underground bullshit no one else cares about. And they pointlessly look down on people who don't know anything about indie culture, because that's the only thing they know anything about. They're quick to call the rest of the world conformists when in reality, they are the ones conforming by partaking in a "too cool for mainstream so i am going to reject it by looking and acting like a grungy asshole" way of life only to seem uber-fashionable. They just end up looking like idiots.

1) Hipster: I won't drink at starbucks, it's too corporate.

2)Non-Hipster: I want a Louis Vitton purse because they are cool

Hipster: You're such a conformist, haveing a Louis Vitton purse is so unoriginal. I like my purse I found in the gutter for $4 dollars.

Non-hipster: but it's fugly

Hipster: yah, but no one else has it. It's completely unique.

Non-hipster: that bum over there has something pretty similar though.

Hipster: You're ignorant because you can't see the real beauty in life.
I don't have time for this, I'm gonna go to my cave of an apartment and listen to some indie rock you've probably never heard of....

Non hipster: You need to see a therapist

Hipster: I am my own therapist

Blark, I work with a guy who fits that precise description. He's the only guy in an office of 200 who has pictures of women he met at clubs all over his cubicle. He's a nice guy, but yeah, his hair is complicated. He drinks Guinness though. That makes him alright in my little book.

Got this link from a fellow chewer who may remain nameless.

http://shadowscene.com/fiesta.html

BTW, I don't know why I still have this link, and I don't know why I keep visiting it. It's like flipping the cable box over to the nature channel.

You can spot me in some of those, so I don't know how secret it is.

Most of you don't have a goddamn clue what you're talking about.

Hey Devin, remember Lipstick & Cigarettes? That's where you could find some hot hipster tail.

haha and I still have the n00dz to prove it

I found a similar place in Atlanta to shadow scene. It's almost like copy and paste.

I don't know jack shit about hipsters, but I do have a pair of pants from the GAP that are called hipster pants. My hips look great!

You'd have to wear womens pants to be a true hipster.

And they would consider the very idea that GAP sells "hipster pants" repulsive, which they would be correct in thinking.

I like the term 'hep cat' myself.

Not a hipster. I'm not manorexic enough.

And I'm so very, very thankful that I don't.

Seconded.

This is the new some-of-my-best-friends-are-black.

Here's a fucking hipster band for you. They came through here a few months ago. Thankfully, I only know of this band (and said event) through a local music board that had a 'hipster discussion' recently.

Ladies and gentlemen... Best Friends Forever

http://www.last.fm/music/Best+Friends+Forever

Notice the 'ironically' shitty, shitty sound quality and "fuck if I care" attitude towards actually singing or playing your instruments worth a shit.

Photos from the event (along with some other grand examples of hipsterdom) here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/matttakesphotos/page2/

That doesn't describe hipster bands, but it does describe 77 punk.

sigh.

Yeah, but it's different. That, in and of itself doesn't make a "hipster" band. But having THAT sound (in the link above) sure does.

What are your examples?

The problem with threads like this are like the problems with sex threads here as well.

"You know, like a bag of sand."

Andre is a hipster who has the sex. Sex with girls. Unlike you lot.

I'm so butthurt right now.

They're laughing at you in ironic t-shirts, from behind piles of cocaine and Adderall, Keith.

I've seen them live. Not too good. And the people around me were the most annoying fucks ever.

I'm not a hipster at all, I just know what they are. Because I hang around them on a regular basis, due to going out dancing all the time, and the only places I like to go in Hollywood are dive bars.

Hipsters always say they're not hipsters.

I'm not pretty enough to get served in dive bars.

That's a real kick to the self esteem, when the bartender at a real low life shithole will just look right past you because of all the fake but pretty low life kids have taken over the place.

I'm the real deal! I'm a real low life!

The thing about hipsters--and the reason some of you sound like giant retards here--is that they're defined by attitude. Specifically, an inflated sense of ironic superiority. Not fashion sense or musical taste or hangout spots or anything else. It's the reason behind those choices.

But by all means, keep talking about horn-rimmed glasses and Arcade Fire.

Crystal Castles, Animal Collective.

Aren't they too mainstream to be hipster? Like I said, legitimate question and I've quickly discovered that the people I thought were hipsters were just just people who were music geeks.

Shit, I'm a hipster. I've been listening to Arcade Fire for the last 5 years. Damn. I knew there was something wrong with it.

God, I can't believe I just spent two minutes reading this thread.

Only in some super insular music geek world are those bands mainstream at all. I'm not sure if it qualifies one as a hipster to dismiss them on the grounds of popularity, but it certainly qualifies one as impressively closed-off from reality-at-large.