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post #201 of 226
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Originally Posted by dynamotv View Post
That's also kind of a bad part. 4000 people like that at a McCain rally.
But on the plus side, pretty much no one else at this point. The rest of the country is seeing an endless stream of this stuff coming out of the McCain campaign and it's scaring them away.

So once again I'm forced to ask, why now and not four or eight years ago? When did Americans go sane?
post #202 of 226
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But it's just so mystifying that the McCain campaign got so much traction from those old bogeymen communist and socialist. How is that even possible? If someone told you two years ago that a McCain talking point would be that Obama is a socialist or a communist, wouldn't you have laughed? It's like a weird time warp.
I keep expecting to see people wearing opera hats and spats and proclaiming Obama an anarcho-syndicalist.
post #203 of 226
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Originally Posted by The Prankster View Post
When did Americans go sane?
We haven't proved that we have yet... but my guess is Katrina.
post #204 of 226
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Originally Posted by The Prankster View Post
But on the plus side, pretty much no one else at this point. The rest of the country is seeing an endless stream of this stuff coming out of the McCain campaign and it's scaring them away.

So once again I'm forced to ask, why now and not four or eight years ago? When did Americans go sane?
Moderates are wearied by eight years of Republican lies and fuck ups, conservatives aren't particularly enthusiastic about their candidate, so the loudest voices left on that side are the crazy folks?
post #205 of 226
The videos linked at Huffington Post are gold:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/1..._n_137710.html

Plus you have to "love" Fox news:



Why did she do it, Fox news? Why?

Here's a serious question, since it appears that America is waking up from it's eight year stupor, what does it mean for this channel? I think they've been thoroughly exposed for the propaganda machine that they've always been.
post #206 of 226
They'll spend time investigating whatever this decade's Ken Starr can pretend to dig up on Obama. If Obama wins, I expect a steady stream of imaginary controversies throughout his term just as there was throughout Clinton's.
post #207 of 226
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Originally Posted by dynamotv View Post
That's also kind of a bad part. 4000 people like that at a McCain rally.
I don't know about that, I went to the McCain rally in Sarasota and it was pretty tame. Did spot 2 signs that were completely inappropriate but one that a lady was holding kind of disappeared after a while.

Did see a couple of protesters trying to bait the crowd, but everybody was just laughing it off.
post #208 of 226
I was listening to Hugh Hewitt and this is what he said today......

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Originally posted by Hugh Hewitt

ThatstoryIreportedyesterdaywasahoax.Idon'tregretre portingitbutIwantedtoletyouknowitwasahoax.

And now my good buddy from Politico. Do you think Obama has given a satisfactory answer to the William Ayers question?
post #209 of 226
Fox News's ratings have apparently been dropping lately. Probably too much to hope that they'll go away, but--as a few recent incidents have shown--they seem to be becoming a bit more fair in their reportage. And balanced, even. Too bad they chose to hitch their wagon to the train that's going off the tracks. It'll be years before anyone will take them seriously as journalists.

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Moderates are wearied by eight years of Republican lies and fuck ups, conservatives aren't particularly enthusiastic about their candidate, so the loudest voices left on that side are the crazy folks?
Conservatives are now claiming they never liked Bush and that he's not a "real" Republican (I'm starting to wonder what a "real" Republican would look like. Have they ever been spotted in the wild?) Yet they were able to get the partisan furor going for the guy in 2004. Say what you like about Kerry, but it wasn't just a lack of enthusiasm for him, it was "BUSH IS A BRILLIANT LEADER VERGING ON GENIUS" and "IF YOU DON'T VOTE FOR HIM YOU HATE FREEDOM" and whatnot. Which is why I laugh whenever people make wisecracks about Obama's supposed cult of non-thinkers.

I guess it really is that people have woken up after Katrina. I just can't bring myself to believe it. They were so willfully ignorant before that.
post #210 of 226
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Conservatives are now claiming they never liked Bush and that he's not a "real" Republican (I'm starting to wonder what a "real" Republican would look like. Have they ever been spotted in the wild?)
post #211 of 226
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Originally Posted by The Prankster View Post
Conservatives are now claiming they never liked Bush and that he's not a "real" Republican (I'm starting to wonder what a "real" Republican would look like. Have they ever been spotted in the wild?) Yet they were able to get the partisan furor going for the guy in 2004. Say what you like about Kerry, but it wasn't just a lack of enthusiasm for him, it was "BUSH IS A BRILLIANT LEADER VERGING ON GENIUS" and "IF YOU DON'T VOTE FOR HIM YOU HATE FREEDOM" and whatnot. Which is why I laugh whenever people make wisecracks about Obama's supposed cult of non-thinkers.
I think they've been sort of complaining about Bush for a bit now, and obviously they never thought McCain was really a conservative. They were upset at him over immigration, but I think mostly the increase spending really bothered the fiscal conservative people.

As far the "real conservative" thing, it reminds me of some arguments I've had with Christian fundamentalist about being "saved". When I would point out about a "saved" person committing some grave sin, they would usually reply ... well he was never really "saved" in the first place.
post #212 of 226
They've been sort of complaining ever since they realised he's a lame duck and dragging them down. Their sudden dislike of Bush has nothing to do with his policies and everything to do with poll results.
post #213 of 226
(We're totally threadjacking but screw it.) For a good layman's definition of the different flavors of conservative / Republican, check out John Moe's book Conservatize Me.
post #214 of 226
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Originally Posted by C.Swicegood View Post

Here's a serious question, since it appears that America is waking up from it's eight year stupor, what does it mean for this channel? I think they've been thoroughly exposed for the propaganda machine that they've always been.
But there's always going to be a segment of the population that is ready to buy into that propaganda. They're off their peak, yeah, and likely will be for some time, but they'll survive. They've got a choir that wants to be preached to, and if Obama wins they'll want it more than ever.

And that's something else- An Obama win isn't going to magically destroy conservatives. It will demoralize them and hopefully shut them up for a little while, but they'll continue to exist and find somehting to rally around and galavanize them. And the second an Obama adminstration makes a single misstep, they will pounce like rabid tigers.

So, to answer your question, stuff will function mostly like it has for a while now. Remember, Rush Limbaugh really came to noteriety during the first two years of the CLinton administration when he had a democratic congress. Conservatives tend to thrive when they're down, unfortunately, and rebound big.
post #215 of 226
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Originally Posted by Drew S. View Post
But there's always going to be a segment of the population that is ready to buy into that propaganda. They're off their peak, yeah, and likely will be for some time, but they'll survive. They've got a choir that wants to be preached to, and if Obama wins they'll want it more than ever.

And that's something else- An Obama win isn't going to magically destroy conservatives. It will demoralize them and hopefully shut them up for a little while, but they'll continue to exist and find somehting to rally around and galavanize them. And the second an Obama adminstration makes a single misstep, they will pounce like rabid tigers.

So, to answer your question, stuff will function mostly like it has for a while now. Remember, Rush Limbaugh really came to noteriety during the first two years of the CLinton administration when he had a democratic congress. Conservatives tend to thrive when they're down, unfortunately, and rebound big.
That.
post #216 of 226
http://www.courier-journal.com/artic...EWS01/81029016

Obama effigy found hanging from tree at UK
post #217 of 226
Would Elizabeth Dole's shenanigans accusing her opponent of being an atheist sympathizer count as disturbing behavior?

Or should I post the ads in another thread?
post #218 of 226
Both. Do we even have any North Carolina chewers browsing the politics forums? This woman has got to go.
post #219 of 226
I'm no Liddy Dole apologist, but I thought she had a bit more class than this. I'm really, really disappointed in her.

She has no business running any type of government office. If I could, I would donate to Kay Hagen.
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post #221 of 226
At first I thought "how clever", but then you read on and find out that he's got his racist hate sign on the easement, which is public property. So he's just another hateful douchebag.

However the father's statement:

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The boy’s father told an investigator that the boy had been trying to pull the sign up so that he could see how it was constructed
Is just ridiculous. Weird for a 9 year old kid to care about an eleciton, though.
post #222 of 226
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Originally Posted by CocoaSugarbaker View Post
I'm no Liddy Dole apologist, but I thought she had a bit more class than this. I'm really, really disappointed in her.
She's always been a douchebag. When she was head of the American Red Cross, she was behind them not including any references to gay sex in their AIDS/HIV training materials. She fought to remove any references to behaviors that could be found 'offensive'.
post #223 of 226
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Originally Posted by C.Swicegood View Post
The videos linked at Huffington Post are gold:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/1..._n_137710.html

Plus you have to "love" Fox news:



Why did she do it, Fox news? Why?

Here's a serious question, since it appears that America is waking up from it's eight year stupor, what does it mean for this channel? I think they've been thoroughly exposed for the propaganda machine that they've always been.
I didn't follow this story much until just now, but it really cracks me up that she didn't even think about how the B would wind up backwards if she did it in a mirror. Doh!
post #224 of 226
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post #225 of 226

Well, can you blame the guy. He went to Iraq in order to selflessly defend our way of life not so that we could stab him in the back and elect blacks to high office.

Sheesh, yt. I mean, c'mon.
post #226 of 226
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LOL, actually, I can't blame vets with PTSD. We send them into the meat grinder and then when they get back they're on their own (thanks in part by the death of all the pro-veteran bills McCain voted against). It's pretty vile how servicemen and women are used and discarded. The racism is just a channel through which to funnel all the collective rage.
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