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2009 MLB Offseason

post #1 of 146
10/30/08 at 2:44pm
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It’s wait ’till next year time again, starring Mark Teixeira, C.C. Sabathia and Manny Ramirez:

Catchers
Brad Ausmus (40)
Paul Bako (37)
Rod Barajas (33) - $2.5MM club option for '09 with a $0.5MM buyout
Josh Bard (31)
Michael Barrett (32)
Henry Blanco (37) - $3MM mutual option for '09 with a $0.3MM buyout
Johnny Estrada (33)
Toby Hall (33) - $2.25MM club option for '09 with a $0.15MM buyout
Jason LaRue (35)
Paul Lo Duca (37) - Type B
Miguel Olivo (30) - $2.7MM mutual option for '09 with a $0.1MM buyout - Type B
Ivan Rodriguez (37) - Type A
David Ross (32)
Javier Valentin (33)
Jason Varitek (37) - Type A
Gregg Zaun (38) - Type B

First basemen
Rich Aurilia (37)
Hank Blalock (28) - $6.2MM club option for '09 with a $0.25MM buyout
Sean Casey (34)
Tony Clark (37)
Carlos Delgado (37) - $12MM club option for '09 with a $4MM buyout - Type B
Nomar Garciaparra (35)
Jason Giambi (38) - $22MM club option for '09 with a $5MM buyout
Eric Hinske (31)
Doug Mientkiewicz (35)
Kevin Millar (37)
Richie Sexson (34)
Mark Teixeira (29) - Type A
Daryle Ward (34)

Second basemen
Willie Bloomquist (31)
Craig Counsell (38)
Ray Durham (37)
Damion Easley (39)
David Eckstein (34)
Mark Grudzielanek (39) - Type B
Jerry Hairston Jr. (33)
Orlando Hudson (31) - Type A
Tadahito Iguchi (34)
Jeff Kent (41) - Type B
Felipe Lopez (29)
Mark Loretta (37) - Type B
Nick Punto (31)

Shortstops
Willie Bloomquist (31)
Orlando Cabrera (34) - Type A
Alex Cintron (30)
Alex Cora (33)
Craig Counsell (38)
David Eckstein (34)
Adam Everett (32)
Rafael Furcal (31)
Nomar Garciaparra (35)
Jerry Hairston Jr. (33)
Cesar Izturis (29)
Felipe Lopez (29)
Edgar Renteria (33) - Type A
Juan Uribe (30) - Type B
Ramon Vazquez (32)
Omar Vizquel (42) - $5.2MM club option for '09 with a $0.3MM buyout

Third basemen
Rich Aurilia (37)
Casey Blake (35) - Type B
Hank Blalock (28) - $6.2MM club option for '09 with a $0.25MM buyout
Willie Bloomquist (31)
Aaron Boone (36)
Russell Branyan (33)
Craig Counsell (38)
Joe Crede (31)
Nomar Garciaparra (35)
Mark Loretta (37) - Type B
Fernando Tatis (34)
Juan Uribe (30) - Type B
Ramon Vazquez (32)

Left fielders
Moises Alou (42) - Type B
Garret Anderson (37) - Type B
Milton Bradley (31) - Type A
Emil Brown (34)
Pat Burrell (32) - Type A
Adam Dunn (29) - Type A
Cliff Floyd (36) - $2.75MM club option for '09 with a $0.25MM buyout
Luis Gonzalez (41) - Type B
Jerry Hairston Jr. (33)
Raul Ibanez (37) - Type A
Gabe Kapler (33)
Kevin Mench (31)
Jason Michaels (33) - $2.6MM club option for '09
Craig Monroe (32)
Greg Norton (36)
Jay Payton (36)
Wily Mo Pena (27) - $5MM club option or $2MM player option for '09
Manny Ramirez (37) - Type A
Juan Rivera (30)
Fernando Tatis (34)

Center fielders
Rocco Baldelli (27)
Willie Bloomquist (31)
Mike Cameron (36) - $10MM club option for '09 with a $750K buyout - Type B
Jim Edmonds (39)
Jerry Hairston Jr. (33)
Gabe Kapler (33)
Mark Kotsay (33)
Corey Patterson (29)
Scott Podsednik (33)

Right fielders
Bobby Abreu (35) - Type A
Casey Blake (35) - Type B
Cliff Floyd (36) - $2.75MM club option for '09 with a $0.25MM buyout
Brian Giles (38) - $9MM club option for '09 with a $3MM buyout - Type A
Ken Griffey Jr. (39) - $16.5MM club option for '09 with a $4MM buyout - Type B
Gabe Kapler (33)
Jason Michaels (33) - $2.6MM club option for '09
Fernando Tatis (34)
Brad Wilkerson (32)

DHs
Milton Bradley (31) - Type A
Cliff Floyd (36) - $2.75MM club option for '09 with a $0.25MM buyout
Jason Giambi (38) - $22MM club option for '09 with $5MM buyout
Mike Sweeney (35)
Frank Thomas (41) - Type B
Jose Vidro (34)

Starting pitchers
Kris Benson (33)
A.J. Burnett (32) - can opt out after '08 season - Type A
Paul Byrd (38) - Type B
Roger Clemens (46)
Matt Clement (33)
Bartolo Colon (36)
Ryan Dempster (32) - Type A
Shawn Estes (36)
Josh Fogg (32)
Freddy Garcia (33)
Jon Garland (29) - Type B
Tom Glavine (43)
Mike Hampton (36)
Mark Hendrickson (35)
Livan Hernandez (34)
Orlando Hernandez (43)
Jason Jennings (30)
Randy Johnson (45)
Jon Lieber (39)
Braden Looper (34) - Type B
Rodrigo Lopez (33) - club option for '09
Derek Lowe (36) - Type A
Greg Maddux (43) - Type B
Pedro Martinez (37)
Sergio Mitre (28)
Jamie Moyer (46) - Type A
Mark Mulder (31)
Mike Mussina (40) - Type A
Carl Pavano (33) - $13MM club option for '09 with a $1.95MM buyout
Brad Penny (31) - $8.75MM club option for '09 with a $2MM buyout - Type B
Odalis Perez (32)
Oliver Perez (27) - Type A
Andy Pettitte (37) - Type A
Sidney Ponson (32)
Mark Prior (27)
Kenny Rogers (44)
Glendon Rusch (34)
C.C. Sabathia (28) - Type A
Curt Schilling (42)
Ben Sheets (30) - Type A
John Smoltz (42) - Type B
Tim Wakefield (42) - perpetual $4MM club option - Type B
Kip Wells (32)
Randy Wolf (32) - Type B

Closers
Brian Fuentes (33) - Type A
Eric Gagne (33) - Type B
Eddie Guardado (38)
Trevor Hoffman (41) - Type B
Jason Isringhausen (36) - Type A
Brandon Lyon (29) - Type B
Francisco Rodriguez (27) - Type A
Salomon Torres (37) - $3.75MM club option for '09 with a $0.3MM buyout - Type B
Kerry Wood (32) - Type A

Middle relievers
Jeremy Affeldt (30) - Type B
Luis Ayala (31)
Joe Beimel (32) - Type B
Joe Borowski (38)
Doug Brocail (42) - Type A
Shawn Chacon (31)
Juan Cruz (30) - Type A
Alan Embree (39) - $3MM club option for '09 - Type B
Scott Eyre (37)
Kyle Farnsworth (33)
Casey Fossum (31)
Keith Foulke (35)
Tom Gordon (41) - $4.5MM club option for '09 with a $1MM buyout
LaTroy Hawkins (36)
Mark Hendrickson (35)
Matt Herges (39)
Bob Howry (35) - Type B
Jon Lieber (39)
Jason Johnson (35)
Damaso Marte (34) - $6MM club option for '09 with a $0.25MM buyout - Type A
Trever Miller (36) - $2MM club option for '09 with a $0.4MM buyout - Type B
Guillermo Mota (35)
Will Ohman (31)
Darren Oliver (38) - Type A
Chan Ho Park (36)
Horacio Ramirez (29)
Al Reyes (38)
Dennys Reyes (32) - Type B
Arthur Rhodes (39)
Juan Rincon (30)
Glendon Rusch (34)
Rudy Seanez (40)
Brian Shouse (40) - Type B
Russ Springer (40) - Type A
Mike Timlin (43)
Ron Villone (39)
David Weathers (39) - Type B
Kip Wells (32)
Matt Wise (33)
Jamey Wright (34) - Type B

[Source: MLB Trade Rumors]
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post #2 of 146
10/31/08 at 12:23am
Slow Down Everybody
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post #3 of 146
10/31/08 at 12:33am
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Fernando Tatis (34)
Coming Back to the Mets

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NEW YORK -- Fernando Tatis agreed to a $1.7 million, one-year deal with the New York Mets on Thursday, opting to stay put after a solid comeback season.

Tatis, who hit .297 with 11 homers and 47 RBIs in 92 games, made $550,000 this season. He had been eligible for free agency.

"Fernando got so many key hits for us last year," general manager Omar Minaya said in a statement. "Not having him the last few weeks of the season certainly hurt. His versatility certainly makes us a better team."

Out of baseball from 2004-05, the 33-year-old Tatis gave the Mets a surprising boost after he was called up from the minors May 13. Filling in regularly for injured outfielders Moises Alou and Ryan Church, Tatis had a string of clutch homers and hits.

He separated his right shoulder in a 1-0 loss to the Washington Nationals on Sept. 16, sidelining him for the rest of the year.

"I feel fine now," Tatis said in a statement. "I didn't need surgery and I will be ready to go in the spring."
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Slow Down Everybody
Huh? The offseason is just as important as the regular season.
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post #4 of 146
10/31/08 at 1:54am
The Phillies are fucked with all the players up for Arbitration and free agency.

We are going to have to give Cole "MVP" Hamels a Santana-sized deal, Victorino and Howard are going to have to be renewed this year. I think Eric Bruntlett would be a decent replacement for Pat Burrell. Plus he can actually field.

I have heard that Matt Holliday may be interested in playing for us, but the Phillie's ownership are cheap bastards.

Meanwhile the Mets are going to up their payroll cause of the new stadium. You guys are going to get Matt Holliday and thus the division.
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post #5 of 146
10/31/08 at 2:03am
You didn't enjoy that title for one minute, did you?
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post #6 of 146
10/31/08 at 2:14am
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You didn't enjoy that title for one minute, did you?
I am going to CBP for the ring ceremony tomorrow,

Hey to quote Lane Smith in the Mighty Ducks...

It aint worth winning if you can't win big! REPEAT BABY!!!
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post #7 of 146
10/31/08 at 2:19am
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We are going to have to give Cole "MVP" Hamels a Santana-sized deal, Victorino and Howard are going to have to be renewed this year.
Cole has three arbitration years coming up. With what Ryan Howard got, I'm assuming the Phillies will not want to role the dice with Cole in Arb (though Howard was a super-two and really was a special case when he won his $10 mil arb award). He will not get Santana money (25/year), but possibly a 4-5 year averaging 12-14 per type offer. The Phillies still have leverage. I can see the Phillies trying to buy out two years or so of free agency more along the lines of Jake Peavy-Roy Oswalt type of offer.

Parade-time tomorrow. I'll worry about next year some other time.
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post #8 of 146
10/31/08 at 2:22am
Pat Burrell is going to be a DH next year.

We need somebody to post his 33 home runs next year. I WANT HOLLIDAY!

Edit: Your right, Archangel Ninja. PARADE TIME!
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post #9 of 146
10/31/08 at 12:06pm
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Originally Posted by InTheShadows View Post
One year, $1.7 million, is rather reasonable, even if Fernando Tatis doesn't have a position. Now, myself, I'd prefer an actual left fielder, but I wont complain too much as Tatis is only keeping the seat warm for that other Fernando. To be honest, if I were the Mets, I'd go hard after Brian Fuentez and Juan Cruz, trade Carlos Delgado and Luis Castillo for pennies on the dollar, and sign Mark Teixeira and Derek Lowe.
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post #10 of 146
10/31/08 at 1:35pm
What do you wanna do with Murphy if he can't play second? The kid's a very good hitter. Very clutch for you guys.
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post #11 of 146
10/31/08 at 3:35pm
Give me Peavy and Holliday for my Cardinals and I'm set.
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post #12 of 146
10/31/08 at 5:55pm
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Originally Posted by Sonic Boom View Post
What do you wanna do with Murphy if he can't play second? The kid's a very good hitter. Very clutch for you guys.
I agree, and honestly, I'm high on the kid. Daniel Murphy has all the tools to be a productive hitter for years to come, but coming up as a third basemen for the Mets really does put him behind the eight ball. If Murphy can't handle second, he's going to have to go back to flailing around in left, because the Mets need his bat in the lineup.

Random Tangent — After last season, I never want to hear a Mets fan criticize Carlos Beltran again. Flanked by the likes of Evans and Tatis, Beltran played like Kelly fucking Leak last year in center.
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post #13 of 146
11/2/08 at 4:32pm
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Originally Posted by halofan1 View Post
Give me Peavy and Holliday for my Cardinals and I'm set.
Peavy has a no trade clause. Why would he want to go to St. Louis? He's Chicago bound, North or Southside. And who is leaving STL that will allow those contracts?
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post #14 of 146
11/2/08 at 5:08pm
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Originally Posted by Anyawatchin Angel View Post
Peavy has a no trade clause. Why would he want to go to St. Louis?
He gave a list of teams, which included the Cardinals, that he would waive his no-trade for. He said he prefers the NL, which, unfortunately for me, makes the South Side a pretty unlikely place for him to end up.
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post #15 of 146
11/10/08 at 6:20pm
Matt Holliday of the Rockies has been traded to the Oakland A's...I fucking hate the Rockies ownership for making this happen.
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post #16 of 146
11/10/08 at 8:28pm
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Interesting, one has to wonder why the A’s choose to unload everything but the kitchen sink last season, only to trade for a one year rental immediately after.

Are the A’s actually plannning on signing Matt Holliday to an extension?
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post #17 of 146
11/10/08 at 10:02pm
Cubs seem to be frontrunners for Peavy which makes me happy. More so if Dempster comes with him. Hope it happens soon.

I'm not sure if it's coming from just Cub fans but Adam Dunn keeps coming up as a player to get. They would definatly have the worst outfield in baseball with him but they need a few fresh faces who didn't choke the last 2 years. Plus every time he's in Wrigley he hits it out. Perfect AL guy.
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post #18 of 146
11/11/08 at 1:51am
Pat Burrell is all but assured to be leaving the Phillies. I would seriously consider using him as a DH if I were the White Sox or Twins. He can't field worth of a shit, but he is a solid 25-35 home run hitter.

The Phils are kinda of fucked. The Phillies ownership has an instinct for doing a Florida (Miami) Marlin's "fire sale". We need another pitcher. I don't trust that Blanton, Moyer, and Meyers will have type of career year next year. Plus Moyer has just filed for free agency.
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post #19 of 146
11/11/08 at 1:55am
So, I'll put money on Manny staying in LA at this point.
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post #20 of 146
11/12/08 at 1:19pm
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Have the Mets learned nothing from the Yankees passing on Carlos Beltran? You don't let a guy like Mark Teixeira go because you have an aging veteran on your roster. Even if Carlos Delgado performs next year, there are no internal options coming up, while Teixeira locks up first for years to come.
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post #21 of 146
11/12/08 at 1:34pm
The Wilpons are probably looking at that payroll and getting a bit sweaty. I think I read Minaya say recently that he's happy with the offense the way it is.
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post #22 of 146
11/12/08 at 1:45pm
Adam Dunn is made of OPS. Seeing how the Brewers offseason pans out, I'd love to see them make a play for him. Especially if the market somehow undervalues him because of batting average and strikeouts.
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post #23 of 146
11/12/08 at 3:50pm
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Adam Dunn is made of OPS. Seeing how the Brewers offseason pans out, I'd love to see them make a play for him. Especially if the market somehow undervalues him because of batting average and strikeouts.
You want a team with a shitty defense to get worse? I didn't think offense was the Brewers problem. More RP and poor defense. Braun and Dun in the corners with a shaky staff should trouble you.
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post #24 of 146
11/12/08 at 5:33pm
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Originally Posted by Anyawatchin Angel View Post
You want a team with a shitty defense to get worse? I didn't think offense was the Brewers problem. More RP and poor defense. Braun and Dun in the corners with a shaky staff should trouble you.
It depends on what you do with Dunn. The Brewers outfield defense was actually pretty stout last year and although Dunn would be a downgrade from Hart defensively, Dunn would be a vast improvement over Hart offensively.

Not to mention, you could always sign Dunn and trade Fielder to fill other needs. Dunn would upgrade the Brewers defense as a first baseman.
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post #25 of 146
11/13/08 at 3:23am
Our shitty defense is at First, Second and Third (not so much when Counsell played, very much the case when Hall played) Dunn would be considerably better than Fielder at first and far less likely to shove Manny Parra in the face. Hell, Dunn would be better than Weeks at second.
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post #26 of 146
11/13/08 at 12:20pm
Yeah, and anyone who thinks that relief pitching was our huge problem and that our offense was amazing was probably not watching most of our games.
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post #27 of 146
11/13/08 at 2:20pm
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Hell, Dunn would be better than Weeks at second.
Now, lets not go overboard here. The defensive metrics indicate that Weeks has improved in many areas. His biggest problem is turning the double play, obviously. But the Brewers infield defense is really not helped at all by Fielder who really can't bring in anything that's a little offline or skips. He's easily the weakest link defensively.
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post #28 of 146
11/13/08 at 11:23pm
Cubs land Gregg tell Wood to look elsewhere
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The Chicago Cubs acquired reliever Kevin Gregg in a trade with the Florida Marlins on Thursday, a move that appears to end Kerry Wood's career with the team.

Wood, the 1998 NL Rookie of the Year who saved 34 games this year, had been the longest-tenured player on the Cubs. General manager Jim Hendry said Wood was deserving of a three- or four-year deal and the Cubs are not prepared to offer him one.

In addition to the right-handed Gregg, who was the Marlins' closer until the final month last season, Chicago also has a talented set-up man in Carlos Marmol, who could close.

"We're just in a situation -- and Kerry fully understands -- that length of deal for the kind of salary that he could command right now is not our first priority," Hendry said during a conference call.

He said the Cubs need to finish their rotation -- they hope to bring back free-agent starter Ryan Dempster -- and add offense.
Looks like Marmol is the closer with Gregg as a set up man. Sad to see Wood go. I just hope he goes to the AL but I would guess the Mets.
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post #29 of 146
11/14/08 at 8:03pm
Yanks are offering Sabbathia a 6 year deal for $140 million. Looks like that's going to be where he winds up.

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ESPN - As expected Friday, the New York Yankees officially tendered an offer to free-agent pitcher CC Sabathia.

The offer is expected to be six years in length and have a total value of slightly more than the record $137.5 million deal that pitcher Johan Santana signed with the Mets before last season.

Santana's deal had been the largest ever for a pitcher.

Friday represented the first day that free agents can be signed. The Yankees also are expected to make offers to free-agent right-handers A.J. Burnett and Derek Lowe.

Burnett has a four-year, $54 million offer from Toronto, while Lowe is looking for a five-year contract.
Their going to spend all the money they can to ensure making the playoffs in the first year of the new stadium.
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post #30 of 146
11/14/08 at 8:41pm
It sucks knowing that the Braves are in the wilderness right now and that we're going to have to spend a couple years rebuilding.

In the meantime, I wait for Bobby Cox to fucking die already.
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post #31 of 146
11/18/08 at 5:25pm
Dustin Pedroia was just named AL MVP.

whoo!
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post #32 of 146
11/18/08 at 5:38pm
I really don't want the Yanks to bother with Burnett. I'm sensing a Pavano/Kevin Brown redux if he comes here.
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post #33 of 146
11/18/08 at 9:31pm
Pedroia gets the MVP..same year as his first Gold Glove. Gets a World Series ring last year. Not bad for his first two year. Geez, might as well retire..how could it get any better?
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post #34 of 146
11/18/08 at 9:52pm
Pujols gets the MVP! I'm a happy St. Louis fan.
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post #35 of 146
11/29/08 at 1:53pm
How are you enjoying your offseason?



That might literally be the gayest/funniest thing I've ever seen. And I've see Return of the King. The picture was taken in Miami at Madonna concert. For serious.
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post #36 of 146
11/29/08 at 1:58pm
I can't wait to pin that picture to a sign and check out the new Yankee Stadium.
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post #37 of 146
11/29/08 at 2:11pm
I've always found A-Rod's...."sensitivity" to be rather amusing. The big reason Yankee fans will never fully embrace him is that he's such a emotionally soft player.

I must admit that the brutal mocking he'll get at Fenway is gonna make me laugh.
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post #38 of 146
12/1/08 at 12:38am
That picture of A-Rod is going to be my Christmas card.
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post #39 of 146
12/9/08 at 8:51pm
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I was vehemently against the Mets signing KROD this offseason, of course, that was before I saw how much it would actually cost. Now go sign Juan Cruz already.
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post #40 of 146
12/9/08 at 10:50pm
Yeah, I think the Mets need more in the pen. Cruz would certainly be a good pick-up. As impressive as Lidge was this year, Phils wouldn't have been close if it weren't for Durbin, Madson, etc. Ultimately what separated the two teams.
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post #41 of 146
12/11/08 at 2:34pm
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That J.J. Putz deal is a steal given the Mets needs, and almost seems to work out for everyone involved. Endy Chavez, Franklin Gutierrez and Ichiro Suzuki in the same outfield is patently absurd, and will do wonders for guys like Jarrod Washburn whenever they're all out there at the same time.

As an aside, how weird is it that the Mets can trade, in consecutive offseasons, some of the best defensive outfielders in all of MLB, and still have Carlos Beltran lying around? The few times all three shared the outfield, extra base hits simply didn't happen.

As for the Indians, they didn't really give up all that much, and have, potentially, filled out their infield on the cheap.

Moving forward, with the price on Derek Loewe apparently reaching the stratosphere, the Mets better move quick on re-signing Oliver Perez. Flake or not, they need those innings.

[Edit: Also, nice trick by the Yankees, turning Melky Cabrera into Mike Cameron. Sure, it's a stopgap given his age, but it's nice to see the Yankees finally address their gaping hole in center field.]
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post #42 of 146
12/11/08 at 4:14pm
Looks like the Yanks will probably get Burnett for 5-year/$80M. Much rather get Lowe. I wouldn't consider giving a guy like Burnett more than three years but such is the business.
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post #43 of 146
12/12/08 at 3:06pm
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Thank you Philadelphia management, for preventing Omar from signing Raúl Ibáñez. Why a 36 year old Ibáñez, at three years, $30 million, is preferable to an arbitration offer to Pat Burrell AND a first round draft pick is simply beyond me, but, as an early XMAS gift, how about a tribute to Ibáñez's defensive prowess:

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post #44 of 146
12/12/08 at 4:05pm
They're gun shy after offering arbitration to Polanco a few years ago and having him take it. I think it was a good move -- I think Burrell's going to go for cheaper than people expect, and he might have accepted arbitration to make nice coin for a year and try the market again next year.

I think the real problem with the move is that Burrell might go for not much more than Ibanez. Also, holy lefties, Batman.
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post #45 of 146
12/12/08 at 5:21pm
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I think they're about even offensively, and Ibáñez does keep himself in impressive shape for his age, but there still doesn't seem to be a gain here, you know? They're not picking up offense, defense, draft picks or money.

And damn, now the Mets need to re-sign Ollie, what with the Phillies stacking that many lefties.
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post #46 of 146
12/12/08 at 6:24pm
Oh yeah, no gain at all. I'd prefer Burrell, especially since I bet he signs at a figure that's not wildly different from this one (per year). Maybe he gets more years, but I doubt it. I just don't see what team wants him, even after Manny signs.

But I think not offering arbitration was a wise move. They should have offered it to Moyer, though.
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post #47 of 146
12/13/08 at 11:20pm
These signings are nuts. 16.5 million for Burnett is dumb and 20+ for Sabatia is worse when at best the Yankees have a 2 year window to win and even that's not guarenteed as they have 2 beasts in their division. I know the Yanks have money to burn but they should have learned there is a better way to go than high priced FA pitchers.

Glad Ibanez is gone as he'd look bad in Cubbie blue. Looking like crazy Milton Bradley for the Cubs in left.

And fuck the Cubs for not getting Peavy. If you can get a Cy Young winner for prospects you do it.

Worst signing has to be the Farnsworth to the Royals for 9.25 million for 2 years. I'm sure they have a farmhand that can throw fastballs over the plate for less.
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post #48 of 146
12/16/08 at 2:30pm
Thread Starter 
So I guess the Braves are getting Peavy now, huh?
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post #49 of 146
12/18/08 at 3:18pm
Thread Starter 
Or not...
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post #50 of 146
12/23/08 at 5:48pm
TEIXEIRA TO YANKS

I can feeeel the hate swelling inside you....
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