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Prop 8 and Al Franken

post #1 of 478
11/5/08 at 2:09am
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Prop 8 being defeated and Al Franken (a real liberal) being elected would be icing on the the cake.
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post #2 of 478
11/5/08 at 2:21am
I think California screwed the pooch.
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post #3 of 478
11/5/08 at 2:24am
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FUCKING MORMONS AND THAT BLACKWATER MOM!

Who ran the anti prop 8 campaign, MICHAEL DUKAKIS!?

Harvey Milk died for nothing.
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post #4 of 478
11/5/08 at 2:26am
I did my part for Franken, but it's still too close to call.
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post #5 of 478
11/5/08 at 2:30am
Who says if this thing passes it's going to stand? This shit is going back into the courts.

Fuck, I doubt I'll even get married.
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post #6 of 478
11/5/08 at 2:36am
I hope everyone who voted for Prop 8 dies.
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post #7 of 478
11/5/08 at 2:38am
I got an education today.

Walking by the Virgin MegaStore in downtown San Francisco, I watched three women staffing a "No on 8" booth get harassed by a pot bellied, bald middle aged white guy who screamed that they wanted "fuck each other up the ass all day!".

Thus proving that he had never actually seen a woman naked
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post #8 of 478
11/5/08 at 2:39am
You should have murdered him.
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post #9 of 478
11/5/08 at 2:39am
How does Califrnia who voted Obama and the Republican Gov. were against Prop 8 vote yes? Cali isn't that liberal.

Damn, Coleman winning with 63% in. Would love to see Franken speeches in the Senate.
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post #10 of 478
11/5/08 at 2:42am
We've got serious hicks in this state. Believe me.
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post #11 of 478
11/5/08 at 2:48am
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Originally Posted by Anyawatchin Angel View Post
How does Califrnia who voted Obama and the Republican Gov. were against Prop 8 vote yes? Cali isn't that liberal.
It is very strange. I don't know if the yes faction got a huge influx of money late in the game or what but at least around here their propaganda was all over the place the last couple weeks. Way more than I had noticed before. Christ, on Monday they had banner ads on this site all day which was disappointing.
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post #12 of 478
11/5/08 at 3:01am
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Seriously,

Fuck the Mormons who bankrolled Prop 8.
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post #13 of 478
11/5/08 at 3:03am
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I wanted the culture war to be over. I am sick of it. Having California allow gay marriage would have been the beginning of the end of it.

Maybe once the Baby Boomers are all dead, gays might have civil rights.
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post #14 of 478
11/5/08 at 3:06am
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As of 1:0 EST/10:00 PST:
It’s official; Florida has fallen. California is still standing — and the gap is beginning to close.

Arizona: Proposition 102: (Marriage Amendment)
Yes: 998,429 (56%) – Projected winner
No: 771,350 (44%)
91% of precincts reporting.

Arkansas: Initiative 1 (Gay Adoption Ban)
Yes: 475,310 (57%) – Projected winner
No: 356,953 (43%)
75% of precincts reporting.

California: Proposition 8 (Marriage Amendment)
Yes: 1,867,373 (53%)
No: 1,633,120 (47%)
24% of precincts reporting.

Florida: Amendment 2: (Marriage Amendment)
Yes: 4,589,831 (62%) – Projected winner
No: 2,800,945 (38%)
98% of precincts reporting.
* The Florida constitution requires 60% for an amendment to pass.
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post #15 of 478
11/5/08 at 4:07am
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Originally Posted by Hundred View Post
I hope everyone who voted for Prop 8 dies.
They will, I guarantee it.
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post #16 of 478
11/5/08 at 4:12am
Franken is down less than 4000 votes with 92% reporting. It looks like the precincts that have not reported may favor Franken. Clooooooose.
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post #17 of 478
11/5/08 at 4:19am
67% of people under 30 voted against prop 8, so at least that's encouraging.
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post #18 of 478
11/5/08 at 4:24am
I knew that this night couldn't be perfect. Fuck the bigots who helped pass Prop 8. I hope their intolerant asses get hit by trucks.
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post #19 of 478
11/5/08 at 4:34am
Holy fuck. I just got up to check some of the numbers and CNN has the Franken race by 73 votes with 94% reporting.
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post #20 of 478
11/5/08 at 4:36am
I really hope Franken loses, but I'm pulling for the Prop 8 opponents.
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post #21 of 478
11/5/08 at 4:38am
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Originally Posted by Bancroft Agee View Post
Holy fuck. I just got up to check some of the numbers and CNN has the Franken race by 73 votes with 94% reporting.
This automaticall updating thing is irritating. It's back up to 1500 votes.
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post #22 of 478
11/5/08 at 4:41am
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Originally Posted by Muharulz View Post
I really hope Franken loses, but I'm pulling for the Prop 8 opponents.

Fuck Norm Coleman but I'm not shocked you'd be against Franken.
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post #23 of 478
11/5/08 at 4:42am
So, about a thousand Barkley supporters are gonna get beaten up.
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post #24 of 478
11/5/08 at 4:44am
I would think if it's under 2,000 a recount's on tap. But I know little of Minnesota. It is a strange and distant land of gophers, horrible NBA GM's and purple people eaters.
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post #25 of 478
11/5/08 at 4:52am
95% and a 1,395 vote difference...
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post #26 of 478
11/5/08 at 4:54am
Meanwhile, Alaska is using snow machines to bring their ballots to the capital for counting. Seriously, they have a population equivalent to my former block in Brooklyn. COUNT YOUR FRIGGIN VOTES!
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post #27 of 478
11/5/08 at 4:55am
I think there's still some potential once L.A.'s all in that Prop 8 will barely get put down, but I'm not having a lot of hope right now. And of course the record voter turn out means that they're not going to have all the results in until 4 am or something.
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post #28 of 478
11/5/08 at 4:56am
As an aside: Chambliss may be looking at a runoff in Dec. I didn't think that was possible earlier this evening.
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post #29 of 478
11/5/08 at 4:58am
Franken's got the lead!


edit: I don't really like Franken (I really have no opinion on him) but I despise Norm Coleman.
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post #30 of 478
11/5/08 at 4:59am
But fucking Michelle Bachman won. Go Al.
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post #31 of 478
11/5/08 at 5:00am
I'm telling ya...that 60 don't seem that far off base right now if a few things break.
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post #32 of 478
11/5/08 at 5:00am
I'm a tremendous fan of Al Franken as a satirist. He's actually fairly moderate politically. Still, not sure i would have voted for him in the primary, but going up against Norm Coleman it's a no brainer.
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post #33 of 478
11/5/08 at 5:08am
Now Franken up by 1,000+. Too bad Bachmann will try and get him kicked out for being unAmerican.
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post #34 of 478
11/5/08 at 5:11am
Minnesota's heading for a recount no matter who wins I would think.
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post #35 of 478
11/5/08 at 5:11am
Prop 8 is down to 52-48. In a perfect world, this wouldn't be close... but any NO would do.
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post #36 of 478
11/5/08 at 5:12am
Love that Al Franken is winning. Myk, he's a self-described liberal. You might find his positions moderate, but he's always had strong rhetoric.
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post #37 of 478
11/5/08 at 5:13am
The Repub's pundits were poo pooing the "disappointing" lack of coattailing on the Obama victory earlier on CNN but me thinks they may have spoke too soon when I look at Minnesota, Oregon and the fact that Chambliss might now need a runoff.

Even if Stevens wins I wonder if McConnell will stick to his little "pledge" knowing that it could potnetially give the Dems the filibuster proof majority.
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post #38 of 478
11/5/08 at 5:21am
I don't fucking get this prop 8 thing. I will never understand why people think it's ok to do this. It's starting to take the luster off this night for me.

Those Yes on 8 fucks were still out on the corner of westwood and santa monica tonight (you see, i live in the creepy shadow of the temple) when we drove by at about eight local time. If we weren't going 35, i don't imagine i would have stayed in the car.

fucking bigots.
(i told them as much, in so many words)

eta: that came off angry, huh?
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post #39 of 478
11/5/08 at 5:22am
With all the Mormon money pumping into Cali you know what's next don't you?


Shitty beer.
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post #40 of 478
11/5/08 at 5:23am
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Originally Posted by Pop Zeus View Post
Love that Al Franken is winning. Myk, he's a self-described liberal. You might find his positions moderate, but he's always had strong rhetoric.
His positions are moderate. And he has described himself as moderate. See Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot... I think it's the chapter about Clinton being the Greatest President of the 20th Century.

His rhetoric is strong because satire is seldom limp.
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post #41 of 478
11/5/08 at 5:23am
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Originally Posted by Bancroft Agee View Post
With all the Mormon money pumping into Cali you know what's next don't you?


Shitty beer.
At least you'll see fewer car accidents on Sundays.
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post #42 of 478
11/5/08 at 5:25am
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Originally Posted by myk View Post
His positions are moderate. And he has described himself as moderate. See Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot... I think it's the chapter about Clinton being the Greatest President of the 20th Century.

His rhetoric is strong because satire is seldom limp.
Hm, I was more thinking about his Air America show which was much more ideological, and when he announced his candidacy, he talked about needing more liberals in the Senate. Could be wrong though. He does love the Clintons.
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post #43 of 478
11/5/08 at 5:26am
I'm a big Franken fan. RLiaBFI(aOO) introduced me to liberalism.
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post #44 of 478
11/5/08 at 5:28am
And I'll be damned if Stevens isn't going to pull it out in Alaska.
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post #45 of 478
11/5/08 at 5:32am
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And I'll be damned if Stevens isn't going to pull it out in Alaska.
Since they answered the Palin question (state law requires a special election so she can't pull a La Follette and name herself as Senator while serving as a sitting Gov.) I'll be interested if McConnell lives up to his word.

Knowing what I know about Mitch....if he's looking at 60 or 59 seats in the Senate for Dems he'll choose 59 and sit Steven's ass while crowing about the "appeals process" Although it would be nice to see if McConnell actually has a spine.

Edit: Franken's down again by less than a 1,000
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post #46 of 478
11/5/08 at 5:34am
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Originally Posted by Bancroft Agee View Post
Since they answered the Palin question (state law requires a special election so she can't pull a La Follette and name herself as Senator while serving as a sitting Gov.) it'll be interested if McConnell lives up to his word.

Knowing what I know about Mitch....if he's looking at 60 or 59 seats in the Senate for Dems he'll choose 59 and sit Steven's ass while crowing about the "appeals process" Although it would be nice to see if McConnel actually has a spine.
What did Mitch vow? He'd give the seat to the dems?
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post #47 of 478
11/5/08 at 5:34am
What's all this about McConnell, anyway?

ETA - Get off my wavelength, myk.

ETA II - Shit, 97% and Coleman's up 1,600 or so.

ETA III - Well, that's it. CNN just updated and Coleman's got something like a 3.5k vote lead.
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post #48 of 478
11/5/08 at 5:43am
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/15037.html
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post #49 of 478
11/5/08 at 5:45am
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Originally Posted by Bancroft Agee View Post
Regardless if he resigns or is expelled, the governor appoints the replacement. She just can't appoint herself.
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post #50 of 478
11/5/08 at 5:46am
I've got Franken back on top according to CNN
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