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post #51 of 154

Oh wow. Creed sounds fucking awesome!

post #52 of 154
post #53 of 154

That's a shame, say what you will about Rocky V but that street brawl will always be one of my favorite fight scenes. I wish I had seen that movie while I was still in highschool, I would have said "I didn't hear no bell" in a Stallone voice whenever I skipped class.

 

I'm interested to see how Creed turns out. There were a lot of things I didn't like about Rocky Balboa but in the end it was a great send off for the character, so I'd hate for him to return and have it be mediocre.

post #54 of 154

If you can watch it, really fun Rocky conversation on Jimmy Fallon last night between him and Paul Rudd (complete with Frank Stallone anecdote)

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post #56 of 154

I was randomly thinking about the Rocky series today and realized that, overall Rocky is much better treated by his 'enemies' than his friends.

 

Apollo, Thunderlips, Clubber Lang etc all challenge Rocky to be his best, and become his biggest supporters.

 

But apart from Adrian, look at Rocky's "friends":

 

PAULIE: Drunken Bum who screws Rocky financially, reducing him from riches back to rags.

 

MICKEY: Sets Rocky up with less than stellar fighters post Rocky II, thus setting him up to be beaten by Clubber Lang.

 

APOLLO: Ok he does pretty well by Rocky, until he gets cocky and then gets dead by Drago.

 

ROCKY"S SON: ends up a Wall Street stooge, which is arguably worse than being a Drunken Bum.

post #57 of 154
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Here it is

 

http://www.nbc.com/the-tonight-show/segments/1701

 

Is Kimmel a Robot? He seems so .....plastic.

post #58 of 154
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Originally Posted by Cylon Baby View Post

I was randomly thinking about the Rocky series today and realized that, overall Rocky is much better treated by his 'enemies' than his friends.

Apollo, Thunderlips, Clubber Lang etc all challenge Rocky to be his best, and become his biggest supporters.

But apart from Adrian, look at Rocky's "friends":

PAULIE: Drunken Bum who screws Rocky financially, reducing him from riches back to rags.

MICKEY: Sets Rocky up with less than stellar fighters post Rocky II, thus setting him up to be beaten by Clubber Lang.

APOLLO: Ok he does pretty well by Rocky, until he gets cocky and then gets dead by Drago.

ROCKY"S SON: ends up a Wall Street stooge, which is arguably worse than being a Drunken Bum.

One addition:

ADRIAN: Dies on him.
post #59 of 154

That bitter old fuck Mickey also took away Rocky's locker

post #60 of 154

And sex.

post #61 of 154

Some more details about Creed. Sounds like Rocky might actually die in this one.

 

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''It's very interesting because people think it would be 'Rocky VII' ... it's not, I have a supporting role. It will be great to take that character, who's actually not well, and pass on his knowledge while he still has time. I think it could be a great movie and a great challenge. It is going to happen.''

Stallone also revealed the storyline will show Rocky passing on the knowledge his trainer Mickey Goldmill - played by the late Burgess Meredith in the franchise - gave him and will see the character ''channelling'' his friend to help his pugilist protégé.

Responding to a question from a fan as to whether he'd ever make a movie focusing on Mickey's life, the Hollywood superstar said: ''Believe it or not, in this film 'Creed' I [Rocky] sort of become Mickey Goldmill because as I'm getting older I find myself almost channelling him, if you know what I mean?

''Some of the things he says, like, 'I'll be an angel on your shoulder', I'm going to be saying it to the next kid, and you realise how much he has gotten into my soul and my DNA.''

 

http://www.contactmusic.com/story/sylvester-stallone-confirms-return-to-rocky_4021519

 

Really looking forward to this.

post #62 of 154
And sex.
post #63 of 154

Creed shoots in January and has cast two real boxers Andre Ward and Tony Bellew:

 

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/boxers-andre-ward-tony-bellew-748018

 

Ryan Gosling as Drago's son in the next spin-off.

post #64 of 154

Can't wait!

post #65 of 154

It's going to be even better than Carlito's Way 2!

post #66 of 154
Jordan gives me some hope. If I'm feeling charitable so does Stallone as Balboa, even though ROCKY BALBOA was nearly 10 years ago. And I haven't seen GRUDGE MATCH.
post #67 of 154

I don't actually mind the idea of this. A spin off with Rocky as a supporting player fits the theme of the Rocky series paralleling Stallone's real life fortunes, what with him having moved into working in ensembles or as a co-lead these days.

 

I bet it'll bomb though.

post #68 of 154

If Stallone Directs and writes it, it has a decent chance of being great. He seems to have this pattern of screwing up with one movie, then getting it right with the one right after. And he's just had Expendables 3...

post #69 of 154
The FRUITVILLE STATION guy is directing it. Sly says it shoots in January.
post #70 of 154

Have to see that...

post #71 of 154
I'm about to watch... GRUDGE MATCH.

Wish me luck.
post #72 of 154

WHY?!?!?!?

 

Do something more constructive. Meth. Self-mutilation. Go to sleep.

post #73 of 154
45 minutes in and I fell asleep twice. Once I woke up to see Sly and De Niro skydiving.

Yes, skydiving. The expression on my face probably looked like Sly's does most of this crummy movie.

Yes.
post #74 of 154
I like the idea of Stallone revising characters.

Said me waaay too many times.
post #75 of 154
20 minutes to go and my enthusiasm for CREED is wanting.
post #76 of 154

I've always been a huge fan of the Rocky films (even 5). I also liked Fruitvale Station a lot so of course I'm looking forward to this.

 

Seems Creed isn't about his grandson but his illegitimate son. Guess Apollo had some fun in Vegas before getting killed by Drago.

 

https://audioboom.com/boos/2722105-exclusive-sylvester-stallone#t=6m8s

post #77 of 154

Last script page of Creed leaked by Stallone apparently. 

 

Wait, Did Sylvester Stallone Just Spoil The Ending Of The Rocky Spinoff?

post #78 of 154
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I hope it's revealed that Paulie's somehow responsible. 
post #79 of 154
I haven't seen all of the "Rocky" movies.

/Rocky stuff I only just realized.
post #80 of 154

Okay, fellas, my New Year's Resolution is to watch all of the Rocky movies. I've only seen the first, the fourth and the sixth. I think it'll be more fun to watch them backwards, since I've heard part five is the series' nadir. I assume the quality will improve with each subsequent film as I backtrack.

post #81 of 154
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Originally Posted by Bradito View Post
 

Okay, fellas, my New Year's Resolution is to watch all of the Rocky movies. I've only seen the first, the fourth and the sixth. I think it'll be more fun to watch them backwards, since I've heard part five is the series' nadir. I assume the quality will improve with each subsequent film as I backtrack.

PART 5 ISN'T NEARLY AS HORRIBLE AS PEOPLE THINK. But yeah I actually just watched them all a couple weeks ago. I had only seen parts of them through the years and Amazon had the entire set including the remastered in 4k edition of the first for 20 bucks. I bought and watched them all over the course of a couple days. 1 is great and 2 isn't bad but it's only there to see Rocky beat Apollo. 3 is fun and 4 is cheesy as fuck. 5 is actually a slight step up honestly. And 6 is actually really good. The best since the first one. Ohh an Pauly is still awful and not needed past part 2. Especially when he is being racist in part 3. Like really he's throwing around racial slurs in front of a bunch of huge black boxers? Yeah im sure they would all shrug that off.

post #82 of 154
I only recently saw V.

Relative to its reputation, I thought it was actually not bad. He was really trying.

Kinda like a Spider-Man 3. Heheh

It may not have succeeded in what it was going for, but it wasn't for lack of effort.
post #83 of 154
"Balboa" isn't on Netflix or Amazon Instant, so I'm watching V.

It's not bad.
post #84 of 154
What is up with his son's dangly earring?
post #85 of 154
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I only recently saw V.

Relative to its reputation, I thought it was actually not bad. He was really trying.

Kinda like a Spider-Man 3. Heheh

It may not have succeeded in what it was going for, but it wasn't for lack of effort.

Now stop it the story was better put together than Spider-man 3.

post #86 of 154
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Ohh an Pauly is still awful and not needed past part 2. Especially when he is being racist in part 3. Like really he's throwing around racial slurs in front of a bunch of huge black boxers? Yeah im sure they would all shrug that off.

 

But it's got one of my favorite exchanges with Rocky calling Paulie out on his bullshit.

 

Paulie: I don't like these people.
Rocky: You don't like em'? Well maybe they don't like you either Paulie.
Paulie: What'd I ever do to them?
Rocky: And they call me "Punchy".

 

And Apollo is ready to slag Paulie a few times. I kinda love that Paulie (and Duke) are the only ones other than Rocky who last throughout the whole series. I kinda hope he shows up in Creed.

 

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Originally Posted by Bradito View Post
 

Okay, fellas, my New Year's Resolution is to watch all of the Rocky movies. I've only seen the first, the fourth and the sixth. I think it'll be more fun to watch them backwards, since I've heard part five is the series' nadir. I assume the quality will improve with each subsequent film as I backtrack.

 

What I love about the series is how personal they are to what Stallone was actually going through in his movie career.

 

Rocky - Struggling actor/writer gets a million to one shot

Rocky II - Tries to prove he's not just a one-hit wonder

Rocky III - Couple of shitty films, tries to get back to what made him a success

Rocky IV - The biggest star in the world!

Rocky V - Career declining

Rocky Balboa - Career comeback

 

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What is up with his son's dangly earring?

 

He's like the daughter Rocky always wanted.

post #87 of 154

Introduced my daughter to this series today on father's day (in honor of my dad RIP... this was our bonding franchise).

Forgot how funny this movie is...

 

"I said my back hurts. What're you deaf?"
"No... I'm short."

FYI I ran up the Philly museum steps just last month for the first time. Weird, since I'm from an area in PA not far from Philly. I'll post pics soon.

post #88 of 154
Actually the unrated cut of Rocky V isn't to shabby either. The shower scene is a full 5 seconds longer! It got longer fucker.

Actually it cleans up a few scenes and what not.
post #89 of 154
I so agree. Rocky 5 is actually not bad at all. it's hard to make a bad Rocky at this point. I could watch a movie with Rock painting a wall and be entertained. Such a great character.
post #90 of 154
V's only sin is that it's dull. It's also insufferable at its attempt at going back to the roots of the first film "hey look, it's Rocky's hat!", "hey look, Adrian is back working at the pet shop!" It never quite recaptures what made the first a classic and the resolution to the whole thing never feels like a genuine resolution.

But it's not the worst thing ever. Weakest in the series, but not as bad as exaggerated by Stallone.
post #91 of 154

I always felt like "V" was a necessary building block to the greatness of "Balboa". He was aiming for something with "V",  but he was still a pretty massive star. The next decade of fading popularity humbled him a bit a got him to a point where he was the underdog, again. Which, when you look at his career, he always did his best work when he was down a bit, and had something to prove.

post #92 of 154
Watching 2 now (my daughter requested! )

"What was your thought in the 15th round?"
"Maybe I shoulda stayed in school..."


"I was wondering if you wouldn't mind marrying me very much..."

<3
post #93 of 154

When are we getting a Creed trailer.  Gotta be soon. 

post #94 of 154
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Watching 2 now (my daughter requested! )

"What was your thought in the 15th round?"
"Maybe I shoulda stayed in school..."


"I was wondering if you wouldn't mind marrying me very much..."

<3


"Do you think you have any brain damage?"

"I don't see any."

post #95 of 154
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"Do you think you have any brain damage?"

"I don't see any."

There are so many funny lines in the Rocky series. He's known for action, but Stallone doesn't get enough credit for his humor writing/delivery.


Anyone know of the actor's name that acts as one of Rocky's cornermen (one of Mick's gym guys) in R2? He's black and looks like Donald Glover? I can't narrow it down via imdb and google. Is it "Shaka Cumbuka" or "Stuart K. Robinson"? I can't find a good picture.

It might be THIS guy...

 


Edited by DARKMITE8 - 6/22/15 at 6:09pm
post #96 of 154

Rocky Balboa

 

"Do you have a reservation?"

 

Paulie:  "Do I look like a freaking Indian"

 

 

Such a lovable asshole.

 

Edit:  Has it really been 10 years since?  Wow.

post #97 of 154

Over the last couple of weeks I've watched Rocky III twice. It's insanely watchable, from the Brawl with Thunderlips (including Paulie smashing a chair on Hulk Hogan's back!) to Mr T being insanely charismatic and yet vicious through the whole movie.

 

"Clubber, any predictions for tonight's match"

 

(glares directly into the camera)

 

"PAIN!"

 

 Plus, the opening title montage is a legit  masterpiece of cinema:

 

post #98 of 154

I think the final fight in "III" is my favorite in the series. It has to do with the fact that it takes place in real time and finishes in three rounds, as opposed the the others which fall into the "15 round montage" formula. Keeping it so tight and well choreographed really ups the intensity.

post #99 of 154
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I think the final fight in "III" is my favorite in the series. It has to do with the fact that it takes place in real time and finishes in three rounds, as opposed the the others which fall into the "15 round montage" formula. Keeping it so tight and well choreographed really ups the intensity.

You get two fights and a wrestling match.  III is golden.

post #100 of 154

It's definitely the best one to introduce new viewers into the series. I've found some viewers feel like like I & II are "boring". If they fall in love with the characters in "III" they appreciate the drama oriented in a different way. 

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