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Lindsay: Obama is our first colored president

post #1 of 123
11/11/08 at 12:58pm
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Ahh, those Hollywood liberal elites!
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post #2 of 123
11/11/08 at 1:01pm
Wow.
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post #3 of 123
11/11/08 at 1:08pm
She ain't alone.

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London, November 6: : Following the historic victory of Barack Obama in the US Presidential elections, Daniel Craig says the world should be prepared to see a ‘coloured 007’.

The 40-year-old, who was himself the target of much criticism for being the first ‘blonde Bond’, humoured the idea at a press conference before the Italian premier of his latest Bond film, ‘Quantum of Solace’.

“After Barack Obama''s victory I think we might have reached the moment for a coloured 007,” the ‘Telegraph’ quoted him as telling the Agi news agency.
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post #4 of 123
11/11/08 at 1:11pm
Menounos: Obviously, Proposition 8 didn't pass and a lot of people were upset about that.

Obviously.
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post #5 of 123
11/11/08 at 1:13pm
I'm sorry if this comes out as inappropriate, but language wise i really don't know. It's a racist term?
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post #6 of 123
11/11/08 at 1:14pm
I'm surprised she didn't go all out and call him mulatto.
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post #7 of 123
11/11/08 at 1:14pm
A little. It's outdated.
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post #8 of 123
11/11/08 at 1:15pm
"of color" still gets used a lot though. How does that work exactly? Someone should make a list.
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post #9 of 123
11/11/08 at 1:18pm
She's dumb but cute.
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post #10 of 123
11/11/08 at 1:18pm
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Originally Posted by Renn Brown View Post
"of color" still gets used a lot though.

Only by the Upson Pratts of the world.
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post #11 of 123
11/11/08 at 1:19pm
This is something to get excited about?
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post #12 of 123
11/11/08 at 1:19pm
She looks like she's reaching her late 30s.
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post #13 of 123
11/11/08 at 1:20pm
We would expect anything less from her at this point...?
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post #14 of 123
11/11/08 at 1:21pm
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Originally Posted by Phil View Post
I think it's always been more of an American term, though, so I'm willing to cut Craig some slack for not realizing it's no longer considered appropriate here.
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post #15 of 123
11/11/08 at 1:21pm
I guess she could make amends for the gaffe by donating to the NAACP.
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post #16 of 123
11/11/08 at 1:22pm
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Originally Posted by Tati View Post
I'm sorry if this comes out as inappropriate, but language wise i really don't know. It's a racist term?

Good question. Racist? Probably. Offensive? Extremly.
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post #17 of 123
11/11/08 at 1:23pm
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I guess she could make amends for the gaffe by donating to the NAACP.
She could also cut off her little finger and beg for forgiveness.
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post #18 of 123
11/11/08 at 1:23pm
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Originally Posted by Renn Brown View Post
"of color" still gets used a lot though. How does that work exactly? Someone should make a list.
You're an idiot.
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post #19 of 123
11/11/08 at 1:24pm
Huh. Why does this give me flashbacks to Deadwood's Nigger General character?
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post #20 of 123
11/11/08 at 1:25pm
So...that's a "No!" to her showing up on Crash?
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post #21 of 123
11/11/08 at 1:32pm
Could you call a dead horse "colored" after beating it and then molesting the corpse?
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post #22 of 123
11/11/08 at 1:57pm
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Originally Posted by ElCapitanAmerica View Post
She looks like she's reaching her late 30s.
You should see her younger sister. The Lohan girls age like moldy bread.
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post #23 of 123
11/11/08 at 2:07pm
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Originally Posted by ElCapitanAmerica View Post
She looks like she's reaching her late 30s.
It's not the years, Cap. It's the mileage.
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post #24 of 123
11/11/08 at 2:12pm
It sounds nothing like "colored president" to my ears, but then I have no idea what else it could be.
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post #25 of 123
11/11/08 at 2:15pm
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Originally Posted by Sonic Boom View Post
You should see her younger sister. The Lohan girls age like moldy bread.
Oh my God, yes. That girl is, what, 14? She looks older than me, and I'm 22.
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post #26 of 123
11/11/08 at 3:44pm
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Originally Posted by DaveB View Post
I think it's always been more of an American term, though, so I'm willing to cut Craig some slack for not realizing it's no longer considered appropriate here.
Also, the "u" makes it less racist.
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post #27 of 123
11/11/08 at 4:15pm
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Originally Posted by Tati View Post
I'm sorry if this comes out as inappropriate, but language wise i really don't know. It's a racist term?
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Originally Posted by EdHocken View Post
Good question. Racist? Probably. Offensive? Extremly.
I think it's a little more complicated than that. Racist? Often. Offensive? Yes. However, depending on context people can be fairly forgiving of the use of "colored" in place of "people of color". In my group of friends, at least, if the person was saying something positive and clearly didn't mean to use an offensive term, they'll be politely corrected and festivities carry on sans tension. And people do still sometimes say "people of color" to refer to a group that is not white and not exclusively black.

Race is such a touchy issue in the US. "People of color" is not used very much but it is PC, but "colored", which means the same thing and is easier to fit into a sentence, is quite offensive. I think it's because the term brings to mind some old white racist in the deep South saying things along the lines of "We don't want them coloreds 'round here messing everything up." And yes, there really are people like that around here.

So anyway, if Lindsay really did say "colored" (I couldn't really tell) she should have known better and I hope somebody politely corrects her so she'll be more aware in the future. One less celebrity making all of us white people look like assholes can only be a good thing, right?
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post #28 of 123
11/11/08 at 4:30pm
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Originally Posted by Bailey View Post
You're an idiot.
Suck on and around my dick, you tone-deaf motherfucker.
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post #29 of 123
11/11/08 at 4:34pm
Honestly, I find it more odd than offensive that she used such an anachronism, as I don't think she was ever tucked in by a mammy or took a buckshot to a dastardly carpetbagger. I'm not that much older than her and irrespective of its potential to insult, that's not exactly a term that's just sitting around in my mental rolodex.
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post #30 of 123
11/11/08 at 4:39pm
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Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
Race is such a touchy issue in the US. "People of color" is not used very much but it is PC, but "colored", which means the same thing and is easier to fit into a sentence, is quite offensive.
It may seem like a thin hair to split given the similar phrasing, but the terms "colored" and "person of color" actually have significantly different meanings. The former is a previously common, now offensive, term for African-Americans, specifically, and the latter is a generally inoffensive blanket term for non-caucasians.

I'd have to think that the similarity in construction presents substantial problems for non-inhabitants of the U.S., particularly those for whom English isn't a first language. After all, "person of color" and "colored person" probably translate to the exact same phrase in most languages.
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post #31 of 123
11/11/08 at 4:45pm
Can we expect (at least) four more years of this stupid kind of bullshit? Lohan isn't the sharpest tool in the shed, and I doubt she knows the difference between 'Colored' and 'Person of Color' (well, she does now.) While it's an unfortunate choice of words, we know what she meant, and to crucify her over it is kind of ridiculous.

But now that she's properly educated, if she says it again, we can then crucify her.
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post #32 of 123
11/11/08 at 4:50pm
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Originally Posted by InTheShadows View Post
Can we expect (at least) four more years of this stupid kind of bullshit? Lohan isn't the sharpest tool in the shed, and I doubt she knows the difference between 'Colored' and 'Person of Color' (well, she does now.) While it's an unfortunate choice of words, we know what she meant, and to crucify her over it is kind of ridiculous.

But now that she's properly educated, if she says it again, we can then crucify her.
Agreed. Like I said, the two terms have very different meanings, but the construction is very similar, so she probably just switched them. From the context, it's pretty clear that she wasn't intending to make a racist comment.
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post #33 of 123
11/11/08 at 5:04pm
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Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
So anyway, if Lindsay really did say "colored" (I couldn't really tell) she should have known better and I hope somebody politely corrects her so she'll be more aware in the future. One less celebrity making all of us white people look like assholes can only be a good thing, right?
Do you know how many CHUD stalkers you're going to net by being so effin' upbeat?

Yeah, "colored" is ignorant and inappropriate, but it's not really hateful or even malicious. But when someone calls Mrs. O a "negress", look out.
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post #34 of 123
11/11/08 at 5:05pm
You know Dave, (tongue firmly in cheek here) I wonder sometimes if you aren't really a Gay, Black-American hermaphrodite.
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post #35 of 123
11/11/08 at 5:07pm
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Originally Posted by Renn Brown View Post
Suck on and around my dick, you tone-deaf motherfucker.
You're funny too.
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post #36 of 123
11/11/08 at 5:07pm
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Originally Posted by Trav McGee View Post
I guess she could make amends for the gaffe by donating to the NAACP.
Dear National Association for the Advancement of Colored People,

Sorry I said colored.

Lindsay
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post #37 of 123
11/11/08 at 5:11pm
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Originally Posted by devincf View Post
Dear National Association for the Advancement of Colored People,

Sorry I said colored.

Lindsay
HA.
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post #38 of 123
11/11/08 at 5:20pm
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Aside from the appropriateness of the term, I just find it funny that Lindsay is talking like an eighty-year old southerner. The term is quite outdated.
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post #39 of 123
11/11/08 at 5:21pm
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Originally Posted by HBarr View Post
You know Dave, (tongue firmly in cheek here) I wonder sometimes if you aren't really a Gay, Black-American hermaphrodite.
I prefer "queer she-male of color," thank you very much.
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post #40 of 123
11/11/08 at 5:23pm
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Originally Posted by Diva View Post
Aside from the appropriateness of the term, I just find it funny that Lindsay is talking like an eighty-year old southerner. The term is quite outdated.
I was under the impression that colored/coloured is the appropriate term.

Beside all the semantics here can someone enlighten me which term would be the political correct term of the day that is not outdated?
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post #41 of 123
11/11/08 at 5:27pm
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Well since Obama calls himself black, that would suffice.
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post #42 of 123
11/11/08 at 5:28pm
I think "black" is fine. "A black", less so. But my favorite is when someone calls a black person who isn't from the US "African-American".
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post #43 of 123
11/11/08 at 5:29pm
schwartze
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post #44 of 123
11/11/08 at 5:29pm
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Originally Posted by Jan View Post
I was under the impression that colored/coloured is the appropriate term.

Beside all the semantics here can someone enlighten me which term would be the political correct term of the day that is not outdated?
African American, since he's from America.

Or Darkie. Or jigaboo. Or half and half.
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post #45 of 123
11/11/08 at 5:30pm
Schwartze would be fine actually. Though "Farbige" (colored) is quite en vogue as well.

Though there are people trying to be over-PC calling blacks (see, I can adapt Diva) Afro-Americans in Germany. Now that is beyond stupid.
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post #46 of 123
11/11/08 at 5:34pm
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The problem with calling all black people African-American is that not all come from Africa nor are American. In NYC, I know a number of black people from the Caribbean who dislike being called African-American because it discounts their heritage.
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post #47 of 123
11/11/08 at 5:36pm
Yeah but they're all from Africa in the first place. There were no blacks in the Caribbean 500 years ago.
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post #48 of 123
11/11/08 at 5:37pm
And since all of humanity descended from Africa in the first place I am declaring myself Afro-European now.
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post #49 of 123
11/11/08 at 5:37pm
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Originally Posted by Diva View Post
The problem with calling all black people African-American is that not all come from Africa nor are American. In NYC, I know a number of black people from the Caribbean who dislike being called African-American because it discounts their heritage.
Umm....

Edit: Missed what Devin said.

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Originally Posted by Jan View Post
And since all of humanity descended from Africa in the first place I am declaring myself Afro-European now.
Not saying it isn't true, but that's debatable.
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post #50 of 123
11/11/08 at 5:39pm
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Originally Posted by Phil View Post
But my favorite is when someone calls a black person who isn't from the US "African-American".
A black guy went nuclear in one of my college classes when someone referred to Charlize Theron as African-American. We explained that she was born in Africa, but he said she had no right to the title.

I've also heard Seal and Chiwetel Ejiofor referred to as African-American.
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