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Originally Posted by First Class 782 

 

I know the final scene was the corker, but Dany eating that heart was fucking awesome.  Seeing how much her husband loved her was awesome.

Man, when she swallowed that last bit, his eyes were practically glowing with pride.  I loved that scene.  Really demonstrated how far those two have come in terms of their marriage.

Well, OK, let me be the one to say that Ep 6's many moments of awesome were slightly undercut by some underwhelmingness: while I loved Tyrien's "confession," I had hoped his plan would be something a tad more Machiavellian (among other things, I'm rarely convinced when I see a despot "forced" to go against their preferences for the sake of honoring something like "trial by combat").

And while I realize that Ned's not the sharpest tool in the drawer, did we really need to watch him sit there muttering "black of hair" over and over again to demonstrate that he's finally figuring out what the rest of us already knew?

But, eh, those are just to have something to talk about. Great ep, as usual, great show.

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Originally Posted by ScottieFerguson 

One thing this show has in spades is unlikeable child characters.  Sansa, Prince Inbred Fuckwit, and Robin "Buster Bluth" Aryn are pretty much in a three way tie for me at the moment.

I guess it depends on how we're defining 'unlikeable', because I like Robin Aryn. He's crazy, probably slow and clearly has mommy issues, but at least that is all out in the open. I'm not wishing him to fall out The Door (or whatever the hole in the castle is), now Sansa and Prince Blondie McNazi...unlikeable. Especially Sansa and her 'I don't want a really great guy!' line (which was a perfect balance to Arya's little 'I'm not getting married' one from a few episodes back). My stomach gets pained whenever Sansa or Blondie are on screen, I chuckle when Robin appears.

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Originally Posted by Jeb 

Well, OK, let me be the one to say that Ep 6's many moments of awesome were slightly undercut by some underwhelmingness: while I loved Tyrien's "confession," I had hoped his plan would be something a tad more Machiavellian (among other things, I'm rarely convinced when I see a despot "forced" to go against their preferences for the sake of honoring something like "trial by combat").

She's not really a despot, though, just crazy. And trial by combat is sanctioned by the gods (that's the basis for the whole thing--the idea that the gods will grant victory to the one who's in the right) so if you're at all religious, or if the people you expect to follow you are, you're gonna think twice about blowing that off. I can see where you're coming from, in that Lysa was acting irrational enough that you don't expect her to follow the rules, but she's got a fair number of good, sane people under her command--she can't be pushing them too far.

Agreed about the Ned thing, though. 

Yeah, it's just used so often as a deus ex machina that even when it's presented credibly, as here, it's a bit of a letdown.

Even with Bronn's perfectly executed one liner at the end of it?

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Originally Posted by Jeb 

And while I realize that Ned's not the sharpest tool in the drawer, did we really need to watch him sit there muttering "black of hair" over and over again to demonstrate that he's finally figuring out what the rest of us already knew?

I must be Ned-tastically thick because I hadn't put that together at all.

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Originally Posted by Jeb 

And while I realize that Ned's not the sharpest tool in the drawer, did we really need to watch him sit there muttering "black of hair" over and over again to demonstrate that he's finally figuring out what the rest of us already knew?

You would be shocked by how many people didn't get it. I've seen on numerous forums people asking why that was important. Seemed fairly obvious in the first episode, but still.

Some people just need things spelled out.

Seriously, people weren't caught up on Prince Charmin being a generation away from having banjo duels with tourists?

I can see people not realizing it or maybe they just didn't believe that the show would actually go that route.

The prince's incestuous parentage didn't occur to me precisely because of his lack of arm-growing-out-of-head.

So, a child of incest can be born without any obvious physical maladies or deformations? Wow, you learn something new everyday.. Thanks, Game Of Thrones!

The problem I had with the Ned scene was that he wouldn't have gone to the book if the idea hadn't already occurred to him.  But they portrayed his reading of the book as a realization, rather than a confirmation... so it felt dramatically redundant.

I kind of hate everyone who keeps bitching about HBOGo being down. You know why? I can't get it anyway because I don't have HBO in my house, and can't afford to subscribe to it (I'm in college, what do you expect?). Ergo, I can't watch this apparently awesome show based on an awesome book I just finished (currently going through Clash of Kings).

Sorry. Had to vent a bit.

Just watched this episode and wanted to echo the love for EVERYTHING.

I love Ned Stark to death, but with the exception of Arya.....the rest of the Starks are kind of dicks. I hate Sansa (and I mean that as a compliment to the actress), and everytime she gets done speaking I hear the "My Super Sweet 16" theme music from MTV's old show.

"Are you from the North or the South......oh wait, I just remembered....I don't care.".....*SWEET SIXTEEN!!!*

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Originally Posted by DamnDirtyApe 

Just watched this episode and wanted to echo the love for EVERYTHING.

I love Ned Stark to death, but with the exception of Arya.....the rest of the Starks are kind of dicks.

What's wrong with Robb, Bran, and Jon?  Robb was a dick to Tyrion...but he was dealing with a guy he strongly suspected had a hand in trying to murder his brother.  I doubt most people would be warm and welcoming in those circumstances.  Jon has his moments of arrogance, but he seems to genuinely learn his lesson and regret it as soon as someone points out that he's acting like a pampered little lordling.  Bran's somewhat sullen but...can you blame him?  In a society that prides men on nothing more so than their martial prowess, he's now a cripple.  Kinda justified, I'd say.

Sansa though, well...no defense...she's a typical spoiled teenage girl who's been told her whole life that her worth is measured by how well she can marry and how many healthy (hopefully male) children she can provide her future husband.

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Originally Posted by stelios 

Seriously, people weren't caught up on Prince Charmin being a generation away from having banjo duels with tourists?

 Indeed. Getting a good look at Joffrey in episode 2 combined with the revelation at the end of the pilot made it fairly obvious. Reading a book, I can understand it being a surprise, but it comes off as fairly telegraphed in this form. Also, it helped that Robert has basically no scenes with the kid, so I already associated Joffrey more with Cersei than with him.
 

Robb is a dick to Theon (I think thats his name...the non-Stark kid banging the red head hooker), and both he and Bran are shits to the old woman looking after Bran. Jon has been a dick, but you are right in the fact he seems to learn his lesson from it. Sansa is Sansa. All these kids seem to take after their mother, more than Ned. Lady Stark is HORRIBLE to Jon, as I'm thinking of his good bye scene with Bran while he was in his coma. Even Arya has her little snotty moments, but she's too damn awesome to hold it against her. Ned isn't afraid to throw his weight around, but only seems to do so when necessary or he feels his family is threatened. I don't think the kids are demons by any means, but they all seem fairly arrogant.

No love for Hodor bursting in with a big goofy grin on his face holding the saddle? Someone make a gif of that stat!

Also, there needs to be some sort of special Emmy made just for Sean Bean's hilariously sincere reaction to Arya wondering if the wound in his leg was going to kill him. C'mon, watch that scene again and pay particularly close attention to his delivery of "What? No!" 

Speaking of the Emmy, Dinklage so has one in the bag. Between "Sometimes...possession is an abstract concept." *WHAP* and his "confession", he's totally rocking the series. No one can complain about this series being joyless or humorless. Not with him around. 

Yeah Tyrion with the jailer was fantastic. That was some wonderful little light comedy that acted as a nice balance to the more serious storylines the episode was balancing. As someone who suffers extreme vertigo too I don't mind saying my heart was in my throat for a few of those scenes in the open jail. Eeesh.

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Originally Posted by DamnDirtyApe 

Robb is a dick to Theon (I think thats his name...the non-Stark kid banging the red head hooker), and both he and Bran are shits to the old woman looking after Bran. Jon has been a dick, but you are right in the fact he seems to learn his lesson from it. Sansa is Sansa. All these kids seem to take after their mother, more than Ned. Lady Stark is HORRIBLE to Jon, as I'm thinking of his good bye scene with Bran while he was in his coma. Even Arya has her little snotty moments, but she's too damn awesome to hold it against her. Ned isn't afraid to throw his weight around, but only seems to do so when necessary or he feels his family is threatened. I don't think the kids are demons by any means, but they all seem fairly arrogant.

Robb's treatment of Theon is justified.  He's actually the son of a rebellious house, and seems quite proud of it.  Theon's pretty a-holish himself.

Though by the same token, all these kids are scions of the highest social class in the land, so yeah, a little arrogance likely comes with the territory.

Just finished episode 7 and... will keep my mouth shut til it airs. But I will tease that it sets a new record for jawdroppers and HOLY FUCKS per single episode. Oh my stars and garters is it going to be fun to watch again Sunday.

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Originally Posted by Jmacq1 

 

Robb's treatment of Theon is justified.  He's actually the son of a rebellious house, and seems quite proud of it.  Theon's pretty a-holish himself.

 

Though by the same token, all these kids are scions of the highest social class in the land, so yeah, a little arrogance likely comes with the territory.

 

Yeah, I don't have a problem with it at all. In fact, I quite like that they aren't so clearly White Hat-ish. This kind of reminds me of some of the best gangster/crime flicks.....there isn't always someone to really root for. Even Ned....he's been pretty noble and straight forward the whole series so far....but even he wasn't above saying "fuck it" and preparing to seriously throw down with the entire Lannister clan. I thought that was a pretty bad-ass (and probably very stupid) move.

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Originally Posted by DamnDirtyApe 

Yeah, I don't have a problem with it at all. In fact, I quite like that they aren't so clearly White Hat-ish. This kind of reminds me of some of the best gangster/crime flicks.....there isn't always someone to really root for. Even Ned....he's been pretty noble and straight forward the whole series so far....but even he wasn't above saying "fuck it" and preparing to seriously throw down with the entire Lannister clan. I thought that was a pretty bad-ass (and probably very stupid) move.

 

Maybe this says more about me, but I find plenty of people to root for in GoT. Mad Men - now there's a show where you don't really have a character to swear allegiance to, in GoT we have Ned, Arya, Jon Snow, Bran, Daenerys, Lady Stark, hell I even have massive soft spots for Tyrion and Littlefinger even tho I have zero idea where their true allegiances lie. Oh no, I know exactly where my loyalties lie in the seven kingdoms and beyond.

Lovelovelove this show. So hard to watch anything else afterwards because the volume seems turned down.

I have to wonder with Theon's prostitute going to King's Landing if that wasn't some kind of payment from Tyrion. She did make note of her generous friends. Her getting on about the house of Greyjoy seemed kinda out of place given her lot in life. Or they could''ve just been that familiar with each other. Glad Ned's finally catching on to wtf is up with Joffrey. I didn't mind that scene where he reads from the book because I'm not positive everyone who doesn't sit and read the boards after each ep would've put it all together. That last scene was a long time coming, but what a way to go.

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Yeah, I find that I like a bunch of characters on this show, even though they're mostly scheming backstabbers. Ned and the Stark's are the closest thing we have to heroes but even when Catelyn gets completely outplayed by Tyrion you have to hand it to the imp.

just loving this thread, and like was said many times before. It is not because your reactions and predictions are humorous to a long time fan of the books, it is the joy of sharing something you love with one who has never experienced it.

I love that people got the dany eating the heart scene...I just dont know how much people are getting, I have the book so the emotions and impressions come flooding back as soon as I see the setting and the players involved. So to see, Harley I think it was, see the full implications of the heart eating scene just gladdened me. Because if the awesomeness of the books is translated, then I will get to enjoy season after season of what is currently my favorite show on television. And just maybe, that blogging, writers block struggling, deadline smashing  author might have sufficient motivation to finish this brilliant series.

Regarding Tyrion's confession, I believe that in the book he had considered Bronn his backup plan (he had been cultivating Bronn as a potential ally since the tavern), though a more recent reader may be able to correct me. I think he believed that naming his brother as champion was the proper chess move and was surprised when little lord psycho and his loving mother denied him his request.

http://arrestedwesteros.tumblr.com/

"I've made a huge mistake..."

"What, you really think I'm gonna go into battle in this $5000 suit of armor?! Come ON!"

Extra-credit attention to detail (now that I've rewatched the scene about ten times): Viserys' face is still cooking after his head hits the ground.

My only problem with that episode was that I realised while watching the fight that Bronn is played by Jerome (something) of Soldier Soldier and Robson & Jerome.

Weird.  Great part though - "no, he did", great line, great delivery.

And finally Viserys gets his fucking crown. Great scene.

OK, my other gripe, and it's minor, but I always image Kings on hunts would be a) mounted and b) with a fucking massive retinue.  So to see just him, his bro, that Lannister dick and Ser Barristan was kind of odd.

Well, I watched Episode 7...fuck.

I think Khal Drogo may have sold some serious Conan tickets in this one. He certainly did for me.

I really think they're doing an excellent job establishing Theon, his history, and what he's all about, and yet it's still the least interesting stuff of the season. Conundrum!

Just watched 7 as well.

Holy.  Fuck.

I wondered whether it was because I'd just read the book that I felt a little distanced from the last couple of episodes (while still really enjoying them).  This one was front to back fucking astounding with not a flat moment in it.

will shut up now.

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Originally Posted by The Rain Dog 

Maybe this says more about me, but I find plenty of people to root for in GoT. Mad Men - now there's a show where you don't really have a character to swear allegiance to, in GoT we have Ned, Arya, Jon Snow, Bran, Daenerys, Lady Stark, hell I even have massive soft spots for Tyrion and Littlefinger even tho I have zero idea where their true allegiances lie. Oh no, I know exactly where my loyalties lie in the seven kingdoms and beyond.

See I still root for the Starks too. Maybe it's my soft spot for Sean Bean as an actor. Or maybe it's that Ned seems like a genuine dude who is putting his loyalty and honor before his own well being.....but I really really don't want him to die. While I think all the actors and characters are fantastic.... Ned, Arya, and Tyrion are the 3 characters that I genuinely have concern for their fate.

As for Tyrion and Daenerys.....I really have no clue where their arcs are going. Tyrion has been a pretty decent guy to this point.....but he's been put through the wringer. His own family framed him, and he came THIS CLOSE to getting executed. While his loyalties were blurry to begin with......I have no idea what he's gonna do now.

Daenerys, to me, might be the most fascinating character. She went from mousey and weak-willed....to gobbling down a horse heart, and not batting an eye as her brother lost his head in a nasty smelting incident. I think this is just the tip of the ice-berg for her, and she is going to be quite the force to be reckoned with. While I can't truly root for her yet (as I'm not sure if she's going to be a full on villain or not), I still love her character.......but I may be biased due to my own real life weakness for heart devouring blondes.
 

To be fair, Tyrion's family didn't finger him for the crime, Littlefinger (Tommy Carcetti) did. The biggest thing I'll say is they're not handling the time lapses all that well. I know a good chunk of time has passed since we first saw Dany to her role in episode 7 but it doesn't do a good job of it on screen (and I don't even know how they could convey it beyond stupid 2 months later thing which I don't think they should do).

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Originally Posted by thecallahan 

To be fair, Tyrion's family didn't finger him for the crime, Littlefinger (Tommy Carcetti) did. The biggest thing I'll say is they're not handling the time lapses all that well. I know a good chunk of time has passed since we first saw Dany to her role in episode 7 but it doesn't do a good job of it on screen (and I don't even know how they could convey it beyond stupid 2 months later thing which I don't think they should do).

Well, Dany could be showing a little more on her pregnancy.  I would definitely say that making the passage of time clear is the weakest point of the series.  I'd say The Wall is about the only place that almost handles it well, and that's only because of the assumption that "training up" a Man of the Night's Watch takes a few months.

But seriously, the entire King's Landing arc seems like it could have taken place in all of a couple weeks, tops.  Mostly the same for Daenerys' storyline across the sea (save for her growing maturity and confidence).

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Originally Posted by Art Decade 

The prince's incestuous parentage didn't occur to me precisely because of his lack of arm-growing-out-of-head.

 

So, a child of incest can be born without any obvious physical maladies or deformations? Wow, you learn something new everyday.. Thanks, Game Of Thrones!

I believe it does take a few generations of inbreeding before one starts to go all deliverance.  While the percentage of a defect goes up due to the couple having the same genetics there is still a 3/4 chance in first generation inbreding between brother/sister that a child born would miss all defects.

Edit to add: One could also be born with defects that are not outright visible noticable (like lower sperm count) or reduced immune system.

I thought Cersei got pissed at Jaime for using Tyrion's knife? It was in episode 3 I think. It was during that scene in the bedroom where Jaime says he'll "kill everyone until there's no one left but us"? Or am I mistaken?

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Originally Posted by thecallahan 

To be fair, Tyrion's family didn't finger him for the crime, Littlefinger (Tommy Carcetti) did.

Well, presuming it was in fact a Lannister (probably Jaime) who hired the hitman, they did give a clear line back to Tyrion with the knife.  Could easily see him setting his brother up as the fall guy.

That said, I don't trust Littlefinger at all, although maybe that's just me projecting Carcetti onto him.  Everytime Ned listens to his advice, things go south quick.  "Hey, I know you want to leave town, but come see this other bastard.  It'll only take an hour.  What's the worst that could happen?"  "This old farmer says a tall guy attacked them.  Clearly it's the Mountain.  Definitely a solid enough reason to go to war."

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Originally Posted by DamnDirtyApe 

I thought Cersei got pissed at Jaime for using Tyrion's knife? It was in episode 3 I think. It was during that scene in the bedroom where Jaime says he'll "kill everyone until there's no one left but us"? Or am I mistaken?

She's angry about the attempt on Bran, but I don't think the knife was ever mentioned.  It could have been Jaime's in the first place, we only have hearsay from Littlefinger about the knife's ownership.

That bedroom scene is also not in the book, so that could also be why some wouldn't think of Tyrion being framed by Jaime (the idea didn't occur to me until your reminder of that new scene and conversation).

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Originally Posted by The Rain Dog 

Maybe this says more about me, but I find plenty of people to root for in GoT. Mad Men - now there's a show where you don't really have a character to swear allegiance to, in GoT we have Ned, Arya, Jon Snow, Bran, Daenerys, Lady Stark, hell I even have massive soft spots for Tyrion and Littlefinger even tho I have zero idea where their true allegiances lie. Oh no, I know exactly where my loyalties lie in the seven kingdoms and beyond.

Really? You're not sympathetic to Peggy, or Pete, or Betty? Mad Men definitely works in shades of grey, but it's strength is how relatable and sympathetic it can make characters.

I also think Tyrion is far more relatable and sympathetic than many of the Starks, up to this point. 

Me too.  After that look he and Catelyn shared over Lysa being batshit nuts, I kinda wanted to see her spring him from prison, find common ground, and team up to get to the bottom of everything.

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Originally Posted by sirjonsnow 

She's angry about the attempt on Bran, but I don't think the knife was ever mentioned.  It could have been Jaime's in the first place, we only have hearsay from Littlefinger about the knife's ownership.

 

Though Tyrian's defense isn't that it wasn't his knife, but rather that he wouldn't implicate himself by using his own weapon;  he doesn't actually deny ownership.

And while my wife (like a lot of posters here) is pretty good about not letting her knowledge of the books spoil things for me, she's concerned  that, even after tweaking the kids' ages from the books, the child actors may age out of their roles before they can film anything past season 2, or even sooner. 

Which suggests that issues of time passage may not be that critical, as the entire story (at least as published so far) takes place in a relatively short period of time.

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Originally Posted by ScottieFerguson 

 

Me too.  After that look he and Catelyn shared over Lysa being batshit nuts, I kinda wanted to see her spring him from prison, find common ground, and team up to get to the bottom of everything.

In almost any other story, that's exactly what I'd expect, based on the way both characters have been portrayed up to this point. But this show has had enough surprises for me already that I'd place no bets either way.

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Originally Posted by Jeb 

Though Tyrian's defense isn't that it wasn't his knife, but rather that he wouldn't implicate himself by using his own weapon;  he doesn't actually deny ownership.

 

And while my wife (like a lot of posters here) is pretty good about not letting her knowledge of the books spoil things for me, she says that, even after tweaking the kids' ages from the books, the child actors will likely age out of their roles before they can film anything past season 2, or even sooner. 

 

Which suggests that issues of time passage may not be that critical, as the entire story (at least as published so far) takes place in a relatively short period of time.

 

If by "relatively short" you mean "A few years" then yeah....

It's not totally clear in the books, but it does seem like each book takes place over something close to a year--if not quite that much, than enough that the kids aging should fit the narrative. It's already been at least three months on the show (a month for the king to get to Winterfell, a month back, and Ned mentioned that he'd been Hand for a month an episode or two ago) and probably more (they hung out in Winterfell for a while due to Bran's condition, and who knows how long Robert's hunting trips take).

Prankster, I think you're right. But even in the books, marking the time that's passed is hard due to the weird seasons in Westeros, the lands across the Narrow Sea being tropical or subtropical and not experiencing a lot of seasonal variation, and there are no mentions of the names of month's or the days of the weeks.

GOT definitely encompasses close to a year. Ironically, though they're longer, I think the other books deal with less time passing, but at least months within each, certainly.

Just finished watching ep 6 last night, and just when I thought they couldn't top the craziness of ep 5, they did it with gusto and wild abandonment.

Well, there's so much to say about this episode, but first and forthmost it's Dany, from eating that horse heart to watching her brother getting that melted pile of gold on his head. One thing this show doesn't do very well is showing us the passage of time, so it seems like Dany went from a scary, low confidence young lady to a very brave & fearless wife of Drogo in just six eps. But I really love her transformation, and I can only imagine what kind of character she will develop into.

The fallout from Tyrion Lannister's abduction continues, and it was great to see Tyrion first pleading for his case, then have a champion winning his release. Can't wait to see what happens after he arrives at King's Landing, and the consequence the Starks will face for that.

I don't think I'm the only one who believe Joffrey's visit & apology to Sansa was a calculated move by his mother, right?

Sometimes I wonder if Ned Stark has been too headstrong, but then again that's why he wants to turn down as the Hand because he knew he's not a good fit in King's Landing.

Finally, more Jon Snow in ep 7!

I cannot stop talking about Vissy getting crowned, forgive me.

I watched it again for the umpteenth time, and I was struck by how unafraid Dany was.  She was startled when he first draws the sword, but from that moment on, she's completely calm.  Even when he's got the sword to her belly and is directly threatening her unborn child, she's totally stoic.  That's not fear in her eyes when she's looking at Vissy.  She knew he was a dead man the moment that the sword came out, and she knows damn well that there is no way that she's going to come to harm with Drogo sitting right there.

I love love love love love that the women on this show are so badass.  Even the sex slave girl showed some gumption by stepping in to shield Dany from the sword until Dany gently pushed her out of harm's way.  I really cannot convey enough just how much I appreciate watching a show where I can root for a woman for reason other than her wardrobe.  Fuck yes.

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Prankster, I think you're right. But even in the books, marking the time that's passed is hard due to the weird seasons in Westeros, the lands across the Narrow Sea being tropical or subtropical and not experiencing a lot of seasonal variation, and there are no mentions of the names of month's or the days of the weeks.

 

GOT definitely encompasses close to a year. Ironically, though they're longer, I think the other books deal with less time passing, but at least months within each, certainly.

I did read in a recent New Yorker profile that Martin has an uber-fan (name eludes me) who he uses as more or less his official "concordance," and relies on him to help with exactly that sort of logistical detail.

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Originally Posted by sirjonsnow 

She's angry about the attempt on Bran, but I don't think the knife was ever mentioned.  It could have been Jaime's in the first place, we only have hearsay from Littlefinger about the knife's ownership.

 

That bedroom scene is also not in the book, so that could also be why some wouldn't think of Tyrion being framed by Jaime (the idea didn't occur to me until your reminder of that new scene and conversation).

Whoop, you're right. I watched a few scenes on my lunch break. He bursts into the room and she starts screaming "What were you thinking? He's 10?!?!"....and this was a few scenes after the revelation that the dagger that Tyrion won from Littlefinger (and Tyrion won it by betting AGAINST his brother in a jousting tournament....curious....)....so I guess I mis-remembered her mentioning the dagger. 

As for my feeling that Jaime set up Tyrion (and if you read the books and know how it all goes down.....feel free to laugh at my conjecture):

I don't feel there is a lot of love lost between Tyrion and the rest of the Lannisters. Tyrion has said a few times how badly his father treated him cause he was an imp. In episode 2 at the breakfast scene, Tyrion said he was interested in what Bran has to say when he awakens from his coma. Jaime then questions whose side Tyrion is on, and Tyrion says how much he LOVES his family....but with that trademark Tyrion sarcasm. Then there's the aforementioned fact that Tyrion bet against Jaime in jousting match. And maybe its just me, but even though Tyrion isn't afraid to throw the Lannister name and gold around when necessary.... he seems to be more at ease with those that are the complete opposite of his family. Like his interactions with the bastard Jon Snow (telling him to own the Bastard title, and not let it hurt him...like Tyrion does with the Imp name). The fact he designed that saddle for Bran. Hell, we even see him wake up one morning in the animal stalls.....I just get the impression the Lannister's are embarrassed of him since he's a dwarf, and he doesn't particularly care for them either......other than all the money.

And I wonder who has Tyrion's back.....if anybody?