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Forgive me if this has been discussed before, but I tried a search and came up nilch. I just started reading Paul Malmont's The Chinatown Deathcloud Peril, which has the most intriguing premise. Set in 1939, Lester Dent (the creator of Doc Savage) and Walter Gibson (the creator of The Shadow), with a young L. Ron Hubbard in tow, investigate the "murder" of H.P. Lovecraft, which gets them involved in a pulp adventure straight out of their books.

Kind of a spiritual cousin to The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay, I stumbled upon this after I found an anthology of The Spider: Master of Men short stories at the library. Remembering the name, I looked up the character on wikipedia and got caught up in a history I never even knew.

Apparently an author named Philip Jose Farmer wrote "autobiographies" of Tarzan and Doc Savage in the 70s, and created a connected universe called the Wold Newton family. From wikipedia...

'is a literary concept derived from a form of crossover fiction developed by the science fiction writer Philip José Farmer. Farmer suggested in two fictional "biographies" of fictional characters (Tarzan Alive and Doc Savage: His Apocalyptic Life), that the (real) meteorite which fell in Wold Newton, Yorkshire, England, on December 13, 1795, was radioactive and caused genetic mutations in the occupants of a passing coach. Many of their descendants were thus endowed with extremely high intelligence and strength, as well as an exceptional capacity and drive to perform good, or, as the case may be, evil deeds. The progeny of these travellers were purported to have been the real-life originals of fictionalised characters, both heroic and villainous, over the last few hundred years, such as Sherlock Holmes, Tarzan, Doc Savage, and Lord Peter Wimsey.

Other popular characters that Philip José Farmer concluded were members of the Wold Newton mutant family include: Solomon Kane; Captain Blood; The Scarlet Pimpernel; Sherlock Holmes's nemesis Professor Moriarty; Phileas Fogg; The Time Traveller (main character of The Time Machine by H. G. Wells); Allan Quatermain; A.J. Raffles; Professor Challenger; Richard Hannay; Bulldog Drummond; the evil Fu Manchu and his adversary, Sir Denis Nayland Smith; G-8; The Shadow; Sam Spade; Doc Savage's cousin Patricia Savage, and one of his five assistants, Monk Mayfair; The Spider; Nero Wolfe; Mr. Moto; The Avenger; Philip Marlowe; James Bond; Lew Archer; Travis McGee; Monsieur Lecoq; and Arsène Lupin.'

Amazing. This of course led to Win Scott Eckert, another author that started a website to pick up (maybe to an obsessive degree) where Farmer left off. He also served as a consultant for that inane lawsuit against Alan Moore after the League of Extraordinary Gentleman movie was accused of ripping off an earlier screenplay titled Cast of Characters.

How had I not heard about this before?
post #2 of 12
Well let's trade: you just gave me a new book to read so here's a guide to Philip Jose Farmer's WOLD NEWTON books:

First, read the "bios" "Tarzan Alive!" and "Doc Savage: His Apocolyptic Life", whih provide detailed geneologies of the Wold Newton families as well as a great "true" version of each character's adventures

You can also read "Lord Tyger" which is a Action/Porno Tarzan novel

Next, you must read the novels "Lord of the Trees and the Mad Goblin". (they are usually published in one volume)

They tell the story of (Farmer's) Tarzan and Doc Savage first attaining immortality then turning on the secret "Masters of the World" who provided it. Also lots of sex and violence!

Also of interest is "the Other Log of Phineas Fog", detailing the real story that Jules Verne didn't dare tell!

All of these books are out of print but you can find them in an out of print bookstore....
post #3 of 12
Alan Moore also used Wold-Newton for the basis/inspiration of LOEG, and Kim Newman's played around a bunch with it, too.

Book is fantastic. Not as good as Kavalier & Clay but better than Carter Beats The Devil.
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Book is fantastic. Not as good as Kavalier & Clay but better than Carter Beats The Devil.
Really? I tried reading Chinatown and just couldn't get into it. I read Carter in high school and enjoyed it. Shame that guy never wrote anything after that.
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I had a hard time getting into Carter; I'd like to re-read it sometime though.

http://www.amazon.com/Sunnyside-Glen...7822036&sr=8-2

Next year. It's about Chaplin.
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I've got Tarzan Alive on order from the library. Apparently it was a big inspiration for Greystroke, the 80s Cristopher Lambert Tarzan?

Unfortunately the Doc Savage autobiography isn't there, might have to hit Half-Price Books.

Did find Venus on a Half Shell and Others. Apparently Farmer wrote the book under the name Kilgore Trout, like the fictional author from Kurt Vonnegut's work. Madness.
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Did find Venus on a Half Shell and Others. Apparently Farmer wrote the book under the name Kilgore Trout, like the fictional author from Kurt Vonnegut's work. Madness.
Ha Ha yes and Vonnegut professed to be baffled by the book, though Farmer insists he made sure he (Vonnegut) was aware of it. Apparantly Vonnegut had stated in an interview that he wanted different authors to publish books "as by" Kilgore Trout and Farmer took him up on it. Once Venus was published the V man got pissed and denied any involvement.

Here is another book for you: Dream Makers by Charles Platt. It's a series of interviews with SF authors including Vonnegut, Farmer, Issac Asmimov, Harlan Ellison etc. Bioth Farmer and Vonnegut discuss the Kilgore Trout escapade

Oh and I made an error in my first post: Instead of Lord Tyger you should read A Feast Unknown. Tyger is another riff on Tarzan but not Wold Newton related.
post #8 of 12
why does my library suck so badly it doesn't have any of these?
post #9 of 12
Not Wold Newton related but, in a related sense like LOEG and Planetary, I just picked up Sherlock Holmes: The Unauthorized Biography by Nick Rennison ($7.99 in the mystery budget section at BookPeople in Austin.) I'm only a few pages in so i'm not sure how good it is but, well, there you go.
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Thanks for the suggestion. I not only put that on order from the library, but discovered Shadows over Baker Street. Came out in '03, and is a collection of Holmes stories pitting him against H.P. Lovecraft's mythology, written by famous authors. A Neil Gaiman story from Moriarty's pov won a few awards.

I have too much reading for the holiday season!
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I loved Carter Beats the Devil, so I'm really excited to see Gold do something other than write for McSweeney's.
post #12 of 12
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Carter Beats the Devil may have to be added to my growing list.

Cool little tidbit about The Chinatown Deathcloud Peril, Joe Kavalier gets namedropped during a scene when Walter Gibson is thinking about his past with Harry Houdini. Malmont must have presupposed the comparisons with The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay.
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