Christians Demand Apology For Prop 8: the musical

Classic Christian bullshit indeed. You can't spend all your time attacking people and then get hurt feelings when they attack back.

Apology - The Musical

Funny, I just watched it, and yeah, it paints the anti-Prop 8 Christians as assholes*, but as far as Jesus being associated with "perverse acts" his only role in the "musical" is to point out that the Bible says all kinds of dumb shit that modern-day Christians (wisely) ignore.

And of course, the grand finale of NPH coming in to point out that the opposition to Prop 8 is probably costing the economy $$$ in the long run** is just wondrous.

* - not that I disagree on that point

** - debatable

I googled "Christian Anti-Defamation Commission" and the second hit was a section on their website called "7 Reasons Why Barack Obama Is Not A Christian." So yeah. Unfortunately the site is down at the moment.

Yes, because as we all know, Hebrew school is dedicating to expounding on the finer points of Christian dogma.

These people truly fit the definition of "Humorless Cunts". If there ever was a need for any group of people to get fucked. It's these people.

Ah, there all a bunch of re-res.

Christians wanting an apology can start lining up to suck my cock.

What I'm waiting for is a Christian fundamentalist to explain to me the apparent paradox of ignoring the shellfish rules and the tattooing rules, but not the gay rules. That was the point of the sketch, and ever since gay marriage has been debated nationally I've wanted someone to do a halfway decent job of explaining that one, because from where I'm standing, it kind of deflates and invalidates their entire argument.

So I'm guessing they chose the "Die" option.

I agree with Rudd, did that dude not see the sketch or something, what would his answer be if someone confronted him?

You might think so, but IMO the right is really, truly driven by economic concerns. That's the wedge that drives all the others.

If the people at the top see that there are $$$ - big-time $$$ - to be made, suddenly it probably ain't so bad after all.

You may think that but it's true. That's the ultimately stupid thing about discrimination. You're locking yourself out of valuable useful talent beause of bigotry and ignorance. It's why companies have been at the forefront of offering same-sex partner benefits. They want to hold on to those workers.

Some companies, not all. It's yet another reason why same sex marriage has been fighting an uphill battle. There are plenty of companies out there who do not want to extend benefits to same sex partners (increased cost).

I hesitate to even bring this up in this thread but discrimination/harassment based on sexual orientation is still rampant in the workplace too. People like to cling to their prejudices and all that.

The real world demands an apology for Prop 8.

Come on Christians, forgive them! Jesus would!

(if he had existed at all).

This, actually.

It's still insulting to say "You're locking yourself out of the gay dollar, douchebags", because that's kinda boiling the gay/lesbian community down to a commodity and marginalizing the entire idea behind Prop 8.

It's cynical but not insulting. And it's not a commodity it's a demographic.

BTW, the gay demographic is a much valued one in the ad world. According to research (can't find my book but I'll see if I can find the stats online) gays and lesbians have a much higher disposable income then the average and they also show a loyalty to a product that's higher then the average. If that doesn't make capitalists droll I don't know what would.

Paul applied the same standard to sex as he did to food, but a lot of Christians get really bent out of shape if you point that out to them.
Sex law:
1 Corinthians 6:12[ Flee Sexual Immorality ] [1 Corinthians 10:23] "All things are lawful for me," but not all things are helpful. "All things are lawful for me," but I will not be enslaved by anything.

Food law:
1 Corinthians 10:23 [ Do All to the Glory of God ] [1 Corinthians 6:12; 1 Corinthians 8:9] "All things are lawful," but not all things are helpful. "All things are lawful," but not all things build up.

I think in the end most people rather Idolize Law, then believe in the promise of Jesus. Therefore you get the effect that most Christian use the Law unlawfully. The law was every only really about health, and has nothing to do with salvation.

1 Timothy 1:8Now we know that [Rom 7:16] the law is good, if one uses it lawfully,

The really funny thing about your post of that Paul put more weight behind the tattooing laws then either the food or sex laws. Also most Christians forget this little commandment.

1 Corinthians 10:32 [1 Corinthians 8:13; Rom 14:13; 2 Cor 6:3 ] Give no offense to Jews or to Greeks or to [1 Corinthians 11:16; Acts 20:28] the church of God,

"Jack Black should remember from his days at Hebrew School that homosexual acts aren't funny..."

Translation-
"Even a Christ Killer shouldn't sink this low."

True. I used to do market research for credit card companies, and the gay demographic was generally wealthier, better educated, and more loyal than other demos. I know one company was considering a credit card marketed specifically to the homosexual community, but I don't think anything ever came of it (this was many years and two jobs ago).

Two bucks says it was to have been some kind of "Pink Card". I'm just saying.

Rainbow Card is more likely.

You're right.

So you are personally insulted by the idea? Even if it's true?!?!

For the love of Jebus why? What exactly is so 'insulting' about it?

So you're personally insulted by the notion that most people are fucking selfish and will only vote for a higher ideal if they personally benefit from it?

Again um... why exactly?

So what? Your rights are your rights, the fact that most people are selfish scumbags is completely seperate to that.

No ones saying YOU only want to vote for it for selfish reasons so wheres the insult? Plenty of people will though - more than won't probably.

Zahn's right. It is insulting.
But I still agree the cynical approach is the best way to go. Do you think Rosa Parks made the public transportation administration look into their hearts and find room for love and acceptance? Hells no. But that boycott got the job done. And then, when minorities were enjoying the same rights as others, it opened doors within our society's psyche. It's easy to stay a bigot when you can't see someone in the back of the bus. But when they're sitting next to you, that's when you have to start to interact, understand and ultimately respect them.
Same theory here. First appeal to the wallet, then let the people mingle and get to know each other.