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If you have any love for the medium of comics at all, I strongly suggest - nay, demand - that you check this out. I'd been on a feeding frenzy of classic comics, having gotten through a run of E.C. Segar's Thimble Theater (better known today as Popeye), and Alex Raymond's beautiful work on Flash Gordon. I'd heard of Terry and the Pirates in passing in my searches, and decided to check it out from the library.

For those of you who don't know (I didn't), Terry and the Pirates was a newspaper strip by written and drawn by Milton Caniff between 1934 and 1946. The Library of American Comics now publishes his run in six hardcover volumes. For many modern cartoonists, this series marks the genesis of graphic storytelling as we know it.

As Howard Chaykin says in his introduction in volume one, patience is a virtue with this series. At first, it's a bit of a letdown, as it took Caniff a while to nail down the style of the series. But midway through 1935, it kicks into gear and never lets up. The art is terrific, and it has a thrill-a-minute movie serial approach that makes it a great page-turner. And apparently, this strip actually originated the term "Dragon Lady" with its recurring villain, which is just cool.

The one disclaimer I must put up for the bleeding heart liberals like myself is that you have to overlook a certain amount of racist stereotyping to dig for the treasure here. The series is about Chinese pirates, and you can more or less imagine what a 1934 American comic strip makes of the Chinese. One of the central trio of heroes is actually a Chinese boy with large teeth and squinty eyes who speaks in broken English. It's the sort of thing that initially turns me off, but I found that as the series wore on, he actually became an interesting and valued hero in his own right. Anyone who's read Lovecraft has seen worse, at any rate.

I can't believe that nobody ever made a movie of this. It very much deserves all the success that Flash Gordon and Popeye have enjoyed over the years.
post #2 of 12
Actually, there was a Terry and the Pirates movie made back in the 40's...and I think a TV show in the 50's?

I believe Milt Caniff was Jack Kirby's favorite cartoonist. Caniff also did a strip after Terry & the Pirates called Steve Canyon, which lasted several decades (Caniff only worked on it for the first five years or so). But Terry & the Pirates is the better of the two.
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I hadn't heard anything about those. Must search.

I'm into Volume Two now, and learning that Caniff was the first to bring sex appeal to the comics. Before the Dragon Lady and Burma, apparently, women just weren't portrayed as sexual creatures. And the more I read, the more I love Pat Ryan's cluelessness with women. He attracts them by the score, and has no idea how to handle them. For a character who starts out as your standard-issue American Hero Guy, he becomes pretty interesting down the line.
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I'm into Volume Two now, and learning that Caniff was the first to bring sex appeal to the comics. Before the Dragon Lady and Burma, apparently, women just weren't portrayed as sexual creatures.
I'm not 100% sure that's true--Flash Gordon was waaaay more sexual, though I suppose Caniff might have gotten there before Raymond, but I don't think so. And there are a surprising number of "sexy ditzes" in humour strips before then, though that might be stretching the definition of "sexual creatures".

By the way, I read the first book of Steve Canyon, and while it was awesomely drawn, I found the story too dense and the characters fairly uninteresting. Haven't checked out Terry yet.

Another classic strip you might look at is Roy Crane's Wash Tubbs/Captain Easy, a strip that completely morphed from a dopey gag strip to a full-on swashbuckling adventure story...it even swapped protagonists.
post #5 of 12
Terry and the Pirates also featured a more or less overtly lesbian character, Sanjak, who not only dressed like a man, but had the hots for Terry's girl April.

It is amazing that, in the feeding frenzy for this type of property that followed in the wake of Raiders of the Lost Ark, a Terry movie or TV series didn't emerge. Wonder if there's one of those ownership issues between the newspaper syndicate and Caniff's estate, or something like that.
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Terry and the Pirates also featured a more or less overtly lesbian character, Sanjak, who not only dressed like a man, but had the hots for Terry's girl April.
I'm also pretty damn sure that Papa Pyzon is supposed to be gay. He certainly loves to point out how much he dislikes women. Plus he's got this whole Oscar Wilde thing going on.
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I'm not 100% sure that's true--Flash Gordon was waaaay more sexual, though I suppose Caniff might have gotten there before Raymond, but I don't think so. And there are a surprising number of "sexy ditzes" in humour strips before then, though that might be stretching the definition of "sexual creatures".
Terry and Flash launched in the same year, apparently. And having read both, I'd have to say that there's a certain lack of maturity in the Raymond vision of women. The sexuality in Terry has a frankness to it that makes it much more interesting than Raymond's work. Caniff seemed much more interested in appealing to grown men than adolescent boys. At any rate, I certainly wouldn't say that Raymond's work was "waaay more sexual" by any stretch. Skimpy outfits are not the same thing as sexuality. Burma is a far more sexual creature than Princess Aura, no matter how much skin Aura shows.
post #8 of 12
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As I read more of this, it occurs to me that Johnny Quest has got some serious 'splainin' to do. The kid's Terry. Hadji is Connie. Race Bannon is Pat Ryan. Not that I ever thought Hannah-Barbera was a bastion of artistic integrity, but come on.
post #9 of 12
I'm pretty sure everything Hanna-Barbera ever did was a ripoff of something.
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Quite likely.
post #11 of 12
They ran a Terry & the Pirates strip in our newspaper for a while-- I'd guess mid-late '90s? A quick Google search indicates that it was a modernized version, and that it wasn't very successful. I don't remember anything about it, but thought the art was pretty cool at the time. I believe there was some small amount of protest over something in that version, too.

Anyone else remember this?
post #12 of 12
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According to what I've been reading, an associate of Caniff's took over the strip when he left over ownership issues, and continued on it for many years, eventually having Terry grow up and become a colonel in the army. But I think that only ran into the seventies. I may have to look into that again.

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Well here's one mention of what you're talking about. The artist was Dan Spiegel, apparently.

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Later, at DC Comics, Dan worked on their war and western titles. At Marvel Comics he did the two issue adaptation of Tarzan of the Apes as a tie-in for the Greystoke movie. For Eclipse Comics he co-created Crossfire and then did Indiana Jones for Dark Horse Comics. In the 90s he was the artist for a short-lived revival of Terry and the Pirates. For the last few years he has been doing comic stories for Boy's Life and enjoying his retirement.
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