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post #1451 of 1539
I haven't read that. I don't really delve into background expanded universe stuff, I just stick with what's going on screen.
post #1452 of 1539
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I'm not really that bothered by Chrysta Bell's performance because ultimately her character isn't amounting to much. The character is literally just an assistant that follows Cole and receives or gives data dump throughout most of these episodes. It would have been more concerning if she were actually given a hefty role like Diane or any other new supporting role.
I'll buy that as long as we don't get more scenes of Gordon insisting that she actually serves some vital function to some damn thing or other. And, as Carnotaur says, her stilted awkwardness does kinda fit right in on this show, although it's funny because I'm pretty sure the rest of the cast has to actually work for it.

But seriously.
post #1453 of 1539
Bad acting in Twin Peaks is nothing new, though I prefer the more melodramatic variety like Bobby from the original show. That kind of overacting fit the show like a glove.




That actually makes me smile, whereas I don't even notice Bell most of the time because there's always more gravitating actors surrounding her anyway.
post #1454 of 1539
Yeah, very true. I'm willing to ignore it as long as Lynch doesn't keep calling attention to it, at any rate.
post #1455 of 1539

I'm struggling with the Vegas stuff that doesn't involve Dougie. Like to the point I feel like I wouldn't miss out if I just skipped through it. 

post #1456 of 1539

Honestly took me a minute to identify this week's musical guest, but her voice hasn't lost a step.  Damn.

 

This was definitely a sweet and sour episode.

post #1457 of 1539
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I'm struggling with the Vegas stuff that doesn't involve Dougie. Like to the point I feel like I wouldn't miss out if I just skipped through it. 

 

Yeah, it's a bit difficult... when Lynch throws us old Twin Peaks tunes into the mix of it. And I'm like... okay, I'll watch. 

 

Really did enjoy Watts in this one. And Dougie Coop's sex face. She made a man out of him... can we now get Cooper, please?

post #1458 of 1539
This was the first week that I wanted it to end and get over it. I love a slow burn, but a lot of this part was interminable.
post #1459 of 1539

Check out the abs on Dougie. The guy is ripped,

post #1460 of 1539
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Check out the abs on Dougie. The guy is ripped,

 

I was surprised. 

post #1461 of 1539

25 years of sit-ups in The Red Room will do that.

post #1462 of 1539
It was weird how the first half was so stacked with violence towards women. But I'm really starting to believe the popular theory of Richard Horne's parents. Speaking of, I guess this pretty much confirmed that he's Audry's son.
Johnny Horne and his robot....holy shit.
So the elder Horne's are estranged? Ben is still wearing his ring. I guess he's always been holding out hope for a reconciliation, being a good person.
Doppler Coop was the mystery billionaire. I wonder what his intention is with the box.
And apparently Diane is working with Dopple Coop. I wonder how long that has been going on. And Gordon has always had a feeling since the hug. Hm.
I'm with everyone else about the non Dougie Vegas stuff, but in a way it all does tie to Dougie in a way. At this point it goes back to what I said last week. If I knew they were going to do another season I would watch a whole episode of rival casino owners plotting against each other in a town a thousand miles away from Twin Peaks. But knowing there are at this point only 8 episodes left, and this is probably a one and done season, now I get antsy.
Same goes with the closing music number. When the Bang Bang showed up I thought "already?". I paused it and there was like 7 minutes left. I thought this must be one of those moments where there is more scenes at the bar after or during the song. Nope. Jude's a seven minute long song to close out the episode. Yeah, it's a nice song, but it's taking up 7 minutes of real estate!
Also I wonder if she purposely wore a dress with the same pattern as the floor of the red room.
post #1463 of 1539
You just know someone out there is going to re-edit the whole series as a 15 hour cut without the songs included.
post #1464 of 1539

After seeing this I think Candy is a defective Fembot.

post #1465 of 1539
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This was the first week that I wanted it to end and get over it. I love a slow burn, but a lot of this part was interminable.

Hm, I didn't feel that way at all. Candy was so damn weird I was kinda mesmerized. I also thought she resembled this person:



Johnny Horne and the robot was one of the weirder things this season, which says something. 

post #1466 of 1539
This is the first time where I felt David Lynch was padding things out a bit. The pace has always been "luxurious" but I'm pretty sure this is
the first time it's felt bloated. Almost as if Lynch realized he had 8 more hours to fill and he could relax a bit.

The episode was not without its charms. The biggest of which was Lynch being giddy at how well Albert's date was going.
post #1467 of 1539
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This is the first time where I felt David Lynch was padding things out a bit. The pace has always been "luxurious" but I'm pretty sure this is
the first time it's felt bloated. Almost as if Lynch realized he had 8 more hours to fill and he could relax a bit.

The episode was not without its charms. The biggest of which was Lynch being giddy at how well Albert's date was going.

Lynch isn't in any rush, and I'm okay with that. During the two week break, I watched the first 8 eps consecutively, and it all moves much faster that way. Maybe that's just me.

 

Loved the Albert date as well.

I just remembered that in the ep before, Johnny ran headfirst into a wall. Totally forgot about that. 

post #1468 of 1539

I just remembered Nadine's successful business, Run Silent, Run Drapes. Glorious.

post #1469 of 1539

YES!!!  That made me smile.

post #1470 of 1539
That was perfect.
post #1471 of 1539

I didn't mind this episode. It did feel a little like filler though. My question for the people that really want the real Cooper back is once you get him back what will he have to do other than eat pie and drink coffee and be Cooper? I mean don't get me wrong I really like that about the character but I still haven't figured out what he would do if he were to come back at this point. Maybe that's just me though. I laughed pretty hard at Jim Belushi's air fist pound though.

post #1472 of 1539
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Originally Posted by Rene A. Moncivais View Post
 

I didn't mind this episode. It did feel a little like filler though. My question for the people that really want the real Cooper back is once you get him back what will he have to do other than eat pie and drink coffee and be Cooper? I mean don't get me wrong I really like that about the character but I still haven't figured out what he would do if he were to come back at this point. Maybe that's just me though. I laughed pretty hard at Jim Belushi's air fist pound though.

 

Agreed, I don't think anyone would really know what they'd like him to do. Maybe just be more conscious? 

post #1473 of 1539

I would like him to come back, rejoin his FBI peeps, solve the Buckhorn murder and the mystery of The Void and Major Briggs, then go to Twin Peaks and clean the place up of the bad drug dealers.  Give Bobby Briggs a thumbs up for turning out to be one of the good guys.  Shoot Richard Horne in the eye.  Sweep up those dust bunnies called Woodsmen.  Kick Red in the balls.  Send Ren-odor to jail for sex trafficking.  Wrestle Bad Coop on the top of one of the Peaks and send him back to the Black Lodge.  Find Laura Palmer as per her dad's request (probably trapped in a glass box somewhere).  Adopt  Sonny Jim since the poor kid doesn't have a dad anymore.  Cure Harry's cancer with his new magic powers.  Give the one armed man a new robot prosthetic arm.  Rescue Jerry Horne from the woods.  Figure out the humming noise in Ben Horne's office, as well as pay the late fee for returning his room key.  Bust Tom Sizemore for insurance fraud.  Go on a bike ride while waxing philosophic with Wally Brando.  

 

I feel like we can hit all those bases in the next 8 episodes.

post #1474 of 1539

Getting back to the opening of this show: 

 

 

"Richard and Linda... two birds, one stone."

 

Cooper gonna cap off Richard? And who is Linda? 

 

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Edited by Carnotaur3 - 7/17/17 at 11:49am
post #1475 of 1539
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"Richard and Linda... two birds, one stone."

 

Cooper gonna cap off Richard? And who is Linda? 

Harry Dean Stanton mentions a character named Linda in episode 6, but I don't think we've seen her. If Richard's the result of an assault by EvilCoop on Audrey, could Linda (whoever that is) be the result of his assault on Diane?

post #1476 of 1539

I got the blu set a little over a year ago, have no 4k TV or super nice sound system, so probably wnt be needing this.  But if all that bling is your thing, Criterion is releasing Fire Walk With Me in October.

post #1477 of 1539

It appears to be not too dissimilar from what's included in the set. All that's added is a new (?) Sheryl Lee interview, an uncompressed 2.0 sound mix, and you get the film plus The Missing Pieces on one disc.

 

I'll be good with what I have.

post #1478 of 1539
Yeah, I was pretty excited to hear of a Criterion release first, but I suppose this is for those who just want to get the film as a standalone rather than go for the entire set.
post #1479 of 1539

Twin Peaks, Episode Ten (2017)

 

 

Dumbland, Episode Two (2002)

 

post #1480 of 1539

 

Chad done fucked up now.

post #1481 of 1539

The only criticism I have of the TWIN PEAKS: THE ENTIRE MYSTERY version of FIRE WALK WITH ME is in the sound.  The image quality and deleted scenes are outstanding but as for the 7.1 audio mix, it's crazy soft.  I compared it to the New Line Home Video laserdisc from the 90s and the LD's sound seemed much fuller and more immersive.   Wonder if Criterion will give theirs a noticable boost.

 

Not sure if I'll pick up the new Criterion edition.  I mean, I'll sort of want to for completion's sake but would wait for a real deal on it.

post #1482 of 1539
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Chad done fucked up now.

 

What am I missing here?

post #1483 of 1539
Miriam is the name of the woman that was killed. So, she sent info on Horne and Chad intercepted it? Maybe?
post #1484 of 1539

Yeah.  But that was the plan all along.  Richard killed Miriam.  Richard calls Chad, tells him to snatch that letter she sent to PD.  Chad intercepts above letter sent to PD, as requested.  Is Sarah Jean Long someone I should know, but don't recognize the name?  The only Sarah I'm aware of is Sarah Palmer, and she's still living in the Palmer house, not a dinky trailer.

 

On the mail scene, Lucy being suspicious, well that's just Lucy being Lucy.  But the postman being suspicious as well cracked me up for some reason.

post #1485 of 1539

I think Sarah is the actress, and they're pointing out that she's credited under a different name than the one on the envelope.  I guess the thinking is that he intercepted the letter of the wrong Miriam, which seems like a stretch. 

 

A plot point hanging on two different Miriams sending letters at the same time is pretty thin.

post #1486 of 1539
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The only criticism I have of the TWIN PEAKS: THE ENTIRE MYSTERY version of FIRE WALK WITH ME is in the sound.  The image quality and deleted scenes are outstanding but as for the 7.1 audio mix, it's crazy soft.  I compared it to the New Line Home Video laserdisc from the 90s and the LD's sound seemed much fuller and more immersive.   Wonder if Criterion will give theirs a noticable boost.

Not sure if I'll pick up the new Criterion edition.  I mean, I'll sort of want to for completion's sake but would wait for a real deal on it.

Given that the original sound mix will be uncompressed on the Criterion release, I assume it'll match with the old laserdisc.

I'm fine with my set disc though.
post #1487 of 1539
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Yeah.  But that was the plan all along.  Richard killed Miriam.  Richard calls Chad, tells him to snatch that letter she sent to PD.  Chad intercepts above letter sent to PD, as requested.  Is Sarah Jean Long someone I should know, but don't recognize the name?  The only Sarah I'm aware of is Sarah Palmer, and she's still living in the Palmer house, not a dinky trailer.

 

On the mail scene, Lucy being suspicious, well that's just Lucy being Lucy.  But the postman being suspicious as well cracked me up for some reason.

Apologies for the confusion, I blanked on Richard calling Chad. I was also really confused by that Photoshop with the actress' credit.

post #1488 of 1539

Oooooooh!  Now I get it.  I didn't realize that was a photoshopped credit.  I thought that was actually on the enevelope.  I thought that was weird, especially since it used the same font as every David Lynch thing.  Okay, so he's saying that it was a different Miriam, so he probably grabbed the wrong one.  Now I get it.

post #1489 of 1539

Poor Miriam. Homegirl just wanted to teach, eat good pie, and leave generous tips.

post #1490 of 1539
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I'm fine with my set disc though.

 

Same. It's not a film I'm going to have yearly revisits of, whereas something like Blue Velvet or Wild at Heart might warrant second looks more frequently.

 

I'm good with what I have.

post #1491 of 1539
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Poor Miriam. Homegirl just wanted to teach, eat good pie, and leave generous tips.

 

Yeah that was fucking brutal. Same with the Mrs. Horne and Johnny bit. Richard is DEFINITELY the spawn of Bob/Evil Cooper (Booper?). That fucker needs to go DOWN. And I am dying to know what's up with Audrey.

 

Caught up last night and man, I thought 10 was just as strong as 9 personally. Loved everything with Robert Knepper, Lesser Belushi and the trio of potentially brain damaged showgirls. Especially Jim going "If we fire her she has nowhere else to go" which I thought was incredibly sweet. 

 

And that episode DID confirm that Laura is coming back in some way. With Cole seeing that vision of her, and the beloved Log Lady confirming it to Hawk later. 

post #1492 of 1539
Yeah, I guess in the absence of Black Lodge scenes to appear in, Laura's just going to start showing up to other people?
post #1493 of 1539

I really wouldn't be surprised if it turns out Laura is inhabiting her own Dougie. That would make Cooper and Laura as some unofficial Black Lodge couple. 

post #1494 of 1539

The more I thought about it the more I thought it was weird Gordon Cole had a vision of Laura.  I mean....why?  I would understand him having a vision of Cooper, but why Laura?  Or better yet, if Laura was trying to manifest, why to him, in Buckhorn?  But really, this is Twin Peaks.  Nothing really has to make sense.

post #1495 of 1539

Oh, and I have another question.  I don't remember off the top of my head and I'm at work, so I can't check, but the scene a few episodes back with Diane and DoppleCoop, did it end with her closing that shutter or her leaving, or did it just cut away before any of that?  I only wonder because It's weird that Diane would be working with DoppleCoop, especially knowing that it's not really Cooper.  Also I can't help but think of the way DoppleCoop spoke in those two interrogations.  That weird, slow way of speaking, like a cassette when your batteries are starting to get low.  I can't help but wonder if that was on purpose, like it was some sort of hypnosis thing, since he never speaks like that at any other point.  And could there have been some sort of hypnosis and commands given to Diane that we didn't see?

post #1496 of 1539
Originally Posted by Dalyn View Post

Oh, and I have another question.  I don't remember off the top of my head and I'm at work, so I can't check, but the scene a few episodes back with Diane and DoppleCoop, did it end with her closing that shutter or her leaving, or did it just cut away before any of that?  I only wonder because It's weird that Diane would be working with DoppleCoop, especially knowing that it's not really Cooper.  Also I can't help but think of the way DoppleCoop spoke in those two interrogations.  That weird, slow way of speaking, like a cassette when your batteries are starting to get low.  I can't help but wonder if that was on purpose, like it was some sort of hypnosis thing, since he never speaks like that at any other point.  And could there have been some sort of hypnosis and commands given to Diane that we didn't see?

 

Diane hits the screen shutter button, exits the interrogation room clearly shaken, and as she walks off-screen the shutter comes down to a full closing.

 

When DoppleCoop spoke in slow-speed in Episode 4 with Cole, Albert and Tammy I first thought it was just residual distress from his car accident/garmonbozia-vomiting/almost sucked into the car lighter moment.  Like he was still rebooting from that, the way DougieCoop had to reboot (though its still ongoing) from his emergence from the wall socket.  When he spoke in the same tone while alone with Diane, I then thought...  "Maybe this is how he speaks only with people the Real Cooper actually knew."  He never speaks that was with other criminals, Lillard's wife, Jeffries on the phone or prison staff.  Like, maybe the slower tone is Dopple's attempt to fit-in and seem what he think might be "more normal."  His version of wearing a mask. 

post #1497 of 1539

Could this be the origin of the 'Woodsmen'?

 

The Secret History of Twin Peaks

by Mark Frost

 

pg 66

 

2 LOGGING MANIA

 

 "Case in point,, the calamity that recently beset a nascent rural community north of Spokane. There in Twin Peaks, rival sawmills, operating on either side of the river, both used to bringing their logs , each became caught up in a frenzied drive to outdo the other. Two houses, Packard and Martell, neither alike in dignity, directed their swarming minions to fill the river with their spoils, in the process denuding the surrounding hills.

   And in so doing overwhelming the waterways with such a logjam of such girth and capacity that it reached back some seven miles, all the way to the well known falls, while rendering the river below them virtually impassable to all other traffic.

   The waterlogged stalemate persisted for two weeks, resistant to every remedy the companies employed. And then, one unseasonably warm winter's night, as a dazzling display of the Northern Lights painted the skies with colors the likes of which residents said they had never seen - cobalt and vermillion are not traditionally considered part of the Aurora's paintbox - a catastrophic spark. Most say dry lightning from a passing storm struck. Other witnesses claim columns of fire descended from the sky, but whatever the source, the result was the same:  that static flotilla of fir and pine soon erupted into flame.

   Like a Biblical prophecy, visible for miles, the river burned for seven days and seven nights. Its coruscating glow could be glimpsed on the horizon, it is said, from neighboring states, even across the border to Canada.

  Once the wind came up the fire spilled onto the shores on either side. The wretched town folk, deploying only a meagre volunteer fire-brigade to combat the conflagration, watched helplessly as the fire raced up the tinder-dry hills from the river's bank, destroying all in its wake.

   Over half the wooden structures in the town of Twin Peaks - a community of hardy pioneers, merchants and homesteaders, barely three decades old - were lost.

 

​SIX PEOPLE DIED IN THE FIRE..."

 

...or maybe coincidence...

post #1498 of 1539

I'll take a couple more episodes of Coop as Dougie as long as we get Audrey Horne this week.

 

We've waited long enough, dammit!

post #1499 of 1539
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I didn't mind this episode. It did feel a little like filler though. My question for the people that really want the real Cooper back is once you get him back what will he have to do other than eat pie and drink coffee and be Cooper? I mean don't get me wrong I really like that about the character but I still haven't figured out what he would do if he were to come back at this point. Maybe that's just me though. I laughed pretty hard at Jim Belushi's air fist pound though.

 

I'll settle for "anything but shuffling around in a catanonic haze", thanks.

post #1500 of 1539

They're showing the next episode at Comic-Con tonight. This seems like a really hard show to spoil. "And then the floating corpse in outer space vomited cream corn!"

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