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Originally Posted by Carnotaur3 View Post
How is she still so hot?
 

Clean livin'...

Same as me!

 

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Anybody wanna play some Atari...?

 

 

 

 

 

Playable:  http://www.jaklocke.com/blacklodge2600/

post #653 of 2179
I hear it takes 25 years to beat the game.
post #654 of 2179
Deep in rewatch mode... Re "Cooper's Dreams", that side profile shot with Cooper then Truman then Hawk all next to each other. My God, so beautiful. Then later in the episode during their cabin adventures, they do an encore but this time adding doc on the end.

Also, hate to promote Fallon but MacLachlan was on last night and the Roots teased a gorgeous version of the main theme. Would love to hear them do the whole thing.
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I shouldn't be surprised that they got Johnny Jewel to contribute to the score.

 

But I am, and I am delighted. 

post #656 of 2179
Just started FWWM. The opening is so un Twin Peaks I can see how it bothered so many fans in its heyday.
post #657 of 2179

Honestly, Twin Peaks is like three different beasts.  Everything up until the end of Laura Palmer was one show.  After that it's like it turned into a totally different show up until the end.  Then FWWM was different than the show.  From what they've been implying, this new show is more like FWWM, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was it's own beast as well.

post #658 of 2179
Done with S1, onto S2. It's been so long that I might as well be watching it for the first time. Originally saw it when I was dumb kid and never knowing what the hell was going on eventually became a turnoff. Kept up with most other Lynch projects over the years, but just didn't bother with this. Feel like such an idiot. It's fucking awesome. I wasn't ready then, but I'm ready now.

Didn't expect all the LOLs this is giving me. Cooper's dirty old man face when he's checking out Flesh World. Leland weeping and dancing to big band music. Dr Jacoby fingering the woman on his tie as he's talking about Laura (Tamblyn is sooooo skin crawlingly creepy on this show). The way Pete heroically runs into the burning building to save his wife. Actually pretty much everything Jack Nance says or does here is hilarious.

Weirdly, the only thing that isn't really working for me is Bob. Not sure if it's because of people posting pics on the internet ruining the horrifying surprise. It might just be the actor. I don't even remember him from the first time I watched these episodes. Should have been paying more attention I guess.
post #659 of 2179

I didn't know what a Cherry Twist was till i saw this Show!

 

post #660 of 2179
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Originally Posted by Dalyn View Post
 

Holy crap.  It just hit me that there are only 20 days left.  I'm only 6 episodes in on my rewatch.  I need to kick it into gear!  Also has anyone read The Essential Wrapped in Plastic by John Thorne or Reflections: An Oral History of Twin Peaks by Brad Dukes?  And if so are either worth reading? 

I really enjoyed Reflections. I'm sure most TP junkies would like it.

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I really enjoyed Reflections. I'm sure most TP junkies would like it.

I actually just finished that yesterday and enjoyed it.  One thing I learned that I never knew was Lynch didn't want any blue in the show.  One director from season 2 mentioned how someone was supposed to have a blue suitcase, and the art department was like "uh....no can do."  But I guess it was more no cobalt blue, or whatever shade that blue rose is from FWWM.  I'm assuming sky blue didn't count since that's what all the waitresses wear at the Double R.

 

Also it seems Sherilyn Finn is still bitter that they didn't hook Cooper and Audrey up, and blames Kyle Mac and Laura Flynn's off screen romance.  I guess Kyle went and had a meeting and refused to do that story and they bowed to him.  I'm actually in his corner on that one.  It would have been too creepy for Coop, a Federal Agent to hook up with a high school girl.  I thought they settled that well in season one.  On the other hand they brought in Billy Zane, and he was pretty much useless.  Not to mention it was just as creepy having a character who was pretty much "I remember when you were a little girl.  My have you grown.  Let me deflower you in my plane before I leave."  And yeah, while that was gross, hooking Coop and Audrey up would have still been a mistake.

post #662 of 2179
And what stung her even more was that they cast Heather Graham as the new love interest, who was five years younger than her.
post #663 of 2179
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Originally Posted by Mr. Stockslivevan View Post

And what stung her even more was that they cast Heather Graham as the new love interest, who was five years younger than her.

Ohh she was really that young? That's crazy.

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Actually, I just looked up Boyle's age and she was only 19 when the first season was shooting. MacLachlan was 30.

From Fenn's perspective, that's pretty fucked up.
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Wow, she certainly was.  Crazy.  I never knew she was that young filming the show.  I always joke about how this is another show with mid-twenty year olds playing high school kids, but she was not far out of high school.  And ewww, Kyle.  But then again, that has always been my own personal rule since I was like 24 or 25.  Never date a woman you couldn't take to a bar with you.

post #666 of 2179

Part 1

 

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Sorry, but  you're old enough to do porn you're hold enough to fuck. Fenn is a complete loon, anyways. It doesn't matter if Graham was younger than her in real life, the simple fact is her character in the show was younger (or so it seemed, we never really knew Annie's age but she wasn't in high school). Of course MacLachan's excuse that an FBI agent shouldn't get with a high school girl is complete horseshit, made up out of petty jealousy. Boyle was probably crying to him in bed how everyone loved Audrey.

 

We should take everything Fenn says with a grain of salt. She's the women who was on a tirade for a couple of months, after they wrapped filming, not so long ago, shitting all over the show and Lynch because they sent other cast members to do promotional work instead of her. As soon as she was a part of the EW shoot she was singing Lynch's praise again.

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Sorry, but  you're old enough to do porn you're hold enough to fuck.

 

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Just finished up the series re-watch last night (FWWM still on tap).  That last episode is still just amazing.  And as much as I've watched the Laura Palmer section of the show, I've only watched that last episode a small amount of times.  It's still just as potent as it was the first time it aired.  But it is a weird beast.  The show up to that point I felt was finding it's legs again and getting interesting.  But when Lynch comes in it is such a shocking contrast, it shows how much what came before that was just basic TV.  It's even a huge contrast from the pilot episode, where Mark Frost was much more involved.  This last one was written by Frost, but according to him he just stood aside and told Lynch to just use it as a guide and go crazy.  But it is an amazing hour of TV.

 

One moment that struck out to me this time that is never really mentioned because it is overshadowed by everything else, but was just perfect Lynch for me was the scene with Big Ed, Norma, Nadine and Mike.  Perfection from start to finish.  Scene starts with Ed walking away from the camera, doing this cool daddy-o snap as he walked (I seriously thought it was Bobby for a second), and struts over to Norma.  They are just hanging out by the fireplace with grins like they are sharing a secret, never mind the fact that right behind them Nadine and Mike are sitting there with cartoonish bloody bandages wrapped around their heads.  Nadine from the sandbag, and Mike from a falling tree (WTF?). Mike is sitting there professing his love to Nadine who is staring off into space, and then freaks the fuck out when he tries to put the moves on her because, of course, she has her memories back.  But it's perfect scene because it is totally absurd and otherwise hilarious in that absurd way.  but Robie fucking killed it as Nadine in that scene, and turned what otherwise would just be a silly scene that you know is coming into something way more heartbreaking.  That moment when she realizes what has happened and just says "It's not fair." was probably the best moment she has had in that entire series, and turned it from absurd to heartbreaking, even though you want Ed and Nadine together.

 

Another small moment I always forget is the beginning when they are at the PD, and Pete Martell comes in claiming the Log Lady stole his truck (Grand theft auto!), Cooper just drops that the Log Lady will appear in exactly one minute.  And then there she is one minute later.  How did Coop know this?  Nobody even questions it.  And she's got some gateway oil her dead husband had found, which I don't recall having even been mentioned before.  Oh, and let's bring in Ronette Pulaski to smell this oil.  Just a weird out of nowhere sequence of events.

 

Oh, and that next to last episode, that had to be the worst "protection" by a police department ever.  The protection was pretty much stand around and be dazed by all these strobe lights.

 

I'm rambling.  It's the coffee.

post #670 of 2179
You did well, dalyn. Here's a cherry pie to soak up all that metaphysical suds.
post #671 of 2179
The scorched engine oil thing is something that occurs either when the Black Lodge or Bob's presence was strongest. Recall that before Maddy saw Bob inhabiting Leland that she was claiming she smelled something burning and that's why she came down stairs.

I forget how Cooper comes to the conclusion that they're connected. Maybe the Log Lady brought it up awhile back when talking of her husband or something.
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I know about the scorched engine oil.  Also I don't know how people still thing Lynch and Frost were making it up when they went along, when the scorched engine oil was a huge clue.  When Leland was at the hospital and Jacoby smelled it, then when he also recalled smelling it at the gazebo when being attacked.  But I was more talking about how the Log Lady said her husband found it and it was a gateway.  It's a bit of info that we were never privy to, that Coop and the Log Lady even had this conversation about engine oil.

post #673 of 2179
Another great example of sound used: Cooper, despite being filmed normal, has footsteps that are played backwards. Even more effective when he's chased by his shadow self with the strobing lights.

On a Lynch related note, I just gave my second ever viewing of INLAND EMPIRE, after having first seen it in 2009. I figured I could easily tackle this better after so many years of diving into Lynch. For the first half of the film, I think I actually have a handle on it. By the second half of the film, I'm feeling like this.





I think I've come to realize that I only love the heavy surreal stuff in small doses. That red room sequence in the TWIN PEAKS S2 finale works just perfectly as an uninterrupted 15 minute nightmare. ERASERHEAD has individual sequences that feel relatable on an emotional level. INLAND EMPIRE just kind of loses me as it keeps getting further and further crazy.

dat Laura Dern, tho

Glad she's gonna be in TWIN PEAKS 2.0, even if it turns out to be just a minor appearance.
post #674 of 2179

Jeremy "Mr. Beaks" Smith has a new article on Twin Peaks up on Thrillist - https://www.thrillist.com/entertainment/nation/twin-peaks-tv-show-david-lynch-cult-classic-history 

This tidbit blew my mind:

 

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It was around this time that Lynch hooked up with Emmy-nominated writer Hill Street Blues writer Mark Frost for a Marilyn Monroe biopic at Warner Bros. The project never went anywhere, but Lynch and Frost continued to work together on a spec screenplay called One Saliva Bubble, an oddball science-fiction comedy that was set to star Steve Martin and Martin Short. ​
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The ONE SALIVA BUBBLE screenplay is readable online, as is RONNIE ROCKET, which would have starred Michael J. Anderson as a man who could control electricity.

 

http://www.lynchnet.com/osbscript.html

http://www.lynchnet.com/rrscript.html

 

Other unproduced Lynch works:  http://www.lynchnet.com/upfilms.html

post #676 of 2179
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Originally Posted by Mr. Stockslivevan View Post

On a Lynch related note, I just gave my second ever viewing of INLAND EMPIRE, after having first seen it in 2009. I figured I could easily tackle this better after so many years of diving into Lynch. For the first half of the film, I think I actually have a handle on it. By the second half of the film, I'm feeling like this.

I think I've come to realize that I only love the heavy surreal stuff in small doses. That red room sequence in the TWIN PEAKS S2 finale works just perfectly as an uninterrupted 15 minute nightmare. ERASERHEAD has individual sequences that feel relatable on an emotional level. INLAND EMPIRE just kind of loses me as it keeps getting further and further crazy.

 

 

I have a similar feeling about Lynch's work.  While I enjoy most of his films, I find some of the symbolism to be quite difficult to unravel sometimes.  For example, I love Wild at Heart, but I remember reading something about it (a long time ago, so I might be remembering incorrectly) that certain characters in it are actually represented by multiple actors, which is never made very clear.  I think Lost Highway has some similarities along these lines, and I am sure there are other examples, including Inland Empire.

 

As a result, while I often find the movies compelling and enjoyable on their own, I never quite get the feeling that I fully understand what the hell is going on a lot of the time.  That's good though.  Nothing wrong with a film being challenging.  It's just not something I tend to spend a ton of time on.

 

That being said, definitely looking forward to the new season.  If you can count on one thing from Lynch, it is that anything he puts out there is bound to, at the very least, be intriguing and well put together.

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I approach most of Lynch's stuff not trying to understand it.  It is cool to think about certain things and what they may mean.  But I also feel that there is a bit that really doesn't mean anything.  I get the feeling that there is some stuff that Lynch does that is spur of the moment (well, everyone knows he does that) that doesn't necessarily mean anything, but is there to elicit an emotion.  So I just kind of roll with it, make my own interpretations, and enjoy going online and seeing what other people picked up on.

post #678 of 2179
He was really off the cuff, as in he gets an idea and then literally ten minutes later he's with his consumer grade DV camera saying "go". I think it just got overwhelming with INLAND EMPIRE where I just become numb to it after awhile. If I cannot understand his films, I can at least FEEL something from what he's presenting, but I sort of reached my limit with that film where I only started to feel boredom by Laura Dern's monologues (though I do think she's giving one of her strongest performances in her career, so there's something). He's been known to shoot more footage than he needed in his films and was always told to cut it down to something palatable. For what it's worth, I'm happy he got to let it out of his system for that movie.
post #679 of 2179
David Lynch shot 18 episodes of Twin Peaks Season 3. He's still letting it out of his system!
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David Lynch shot 18 episodes of Twin Peaks Season 3. He's still letting it out of his system!

Luckily not on a DV cam all by himself!
post #681 of 2179
Ew yes. I think I've avoided Inland Empire this long because it looked like something I'd shoot when I was 16 years old.
post #682 of 2179
That was one of my big worries, how this was going to look. The teasers made me feel way, way better.
post #683 of 2179
Yeah, I was terribly worried that it was going to be all orange-'n-tealed to fuck like that...thing...with John Malkovych playing David Lynch characters for some reason a while back, but the actual teaser footage has been quite reassuring in that regard.

Though I still don't know how he's going to pick up the story from the S2 finale in a satisfactory manner. But hell, it's guaranteed to at least be interesting.
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Haha, well I wasn't worried that Lynch would just pull out his old DV cam for this. I assumed that Showtime would see to it that whatever Lynch was shooting on this show that it would at least be as presentable as any television cable drama like MAD MEN and GAME OF THRONES. It at least doesn't look like the kind of flat overlit dreck that the big broadcast networks put out.
post #685 of 2179
On the two-disc DVD of INLAND EMPIRE there is a long selection of deleted scenes including an extended take of Dern talking to the man at Axxon X that helps things become a little more clear, in addition to showing Dern's performance off even better.

Man, she was good in this.
post #686 of 2179
Love Dern and can't wait to see her here.
post #687 of 2179
Originally Posted by Engineer View Post
On the two-disc DVD of INLAND EMPIRE there is a long selection of deleted scenes including an extended take of Dern talking to the man at Axxon X...

 

Found the deleted material on YouTube under "More Things That Happened."  Seventy-five minutes' worth in seven parts...

 

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Looks like the Cannes screening is tonight.  I was torn on wanting to know reactions to not wanting to know anything.  I think since it's the weekend and I'll be off work, I'll be able to keep myself distracted until Sunday night.

post #689 of 2179

If there's one filmmaker whose work is impervious to reviews, it's David Lynch. 

post #690 of 2179
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I have a similar feeling about Lynch's work.  While I enjoy most of his films, I find some of the symbolism to be quite difficult to unravel sometimes.  For example, I love Wild at Heart, but I remember reading something about it (a long time ago, so I might be remembering incorrectly) that certain characters in it are actually represented by multiple actors, which is never made very clear.  I think Lost Highway has some similarities along these lines, and I am sure there are other examples, including Inland Empire.

 

As a result, while I often find the movies compelling and enjoyable on their own, I never quite get the feeling that I fully understand what the hell is going on a lot of the time.  That's good though.  Nothing wrong with a film being challenging.  It's just not something I tend to spend a ton of time on.

 

I saw an interview with Lynch in which he was adamant that he doesn't think about theme or symbolism when he's making a film, and that once he's made a film he views explaining it or answering questions on it as undermining it. While it's important to remember that Twin Peaks's characters, plot, and mythology are as much Mark Frost's babies as they are David Lynch's, Lynch is all about creating feeling and impression, not concealing an idea under a code. The feelings we get as our brains make sense of his stuff is what he intends us to feel. 

 

On another note, the reference to The Shining Mr Stocksliveman made is dead appropriate. They're obviously very different, but I've always found the horror elements of The Shining and Twin Peaks very resonant: the villain in both is a father with a vague, somewhat willing relationship to a supernatural evil that wants to use him to get at his child; Kubrick and Lynch are both incredible at building terrifying senses of dread; and the supernatural forces in both are presented in this very surreal, convincing way - if ghosts and spirits existed, I imagine they'd appear, behave, and interact with people like the Black Lodge and Overlook spirits do. 

 

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In honor of the show's return, I'm rewatching FIRE WALK WITH ME for the first time in years soon. I saw it in the theater when it came out and walked out on it. I'm alternately excited and filled with dread.

 

For me, Fire Walk With Me is like Alien 3 - a despised film that I saw over a decade after it came out, and which, divorced from the context of its original release, I thought was totally amazing. I think it's much better thought of now, but I'm really shocked that it was ever considered a disaster. 

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Screening in LA for critics tonight. Social media reactions hit in the next few hours.
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I'm too curious to hear the reactions. Unless they're just downright awful sounding, I have little doubt I'd skip this show regardless. 

post #693 of 2179
I hope it goes... just a little something... like this:

Social Media Reaction: I don't know what the fuck I just saw.

David Lynch: Score!
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I have no reason not to believe that. 

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Not a spoiler - Apparently before they showed the premiere, Lynch came out in front of the curtain and said : "In a moment you'll be flying through trees--Douglas Firs. They are quite beautiful. If we listen, very carefully, we can hear the wind going through the bristles." He then stepped off stage, curtain rises, and it began.

 

I would have murdered all of you to be there. 

post #696 of 2179
Not a single word from anyone at the premiere. Sounds like they're having this secret well kept.
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Not a single word from anyone at the premiere. Sounds like they're having this secret well kept.

 

Alan Sepinwall just posted that they're confiscating cell phones and embargoing full reviews for critics who are at the LA premiere tonight, but that doesn't mean no tweeting. So he says expect tweets at 10:30 EST. 

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Not a spoiler - Apparently before they showed the premiere, Lynch came out in front of the curtain and said : "In a moment you'll be flying through trees--Douglas Firs. They are quite beautiful. If we listen, very carefully, we can hear the wind going through the bristles." He then stepped off stage, curtain rises, and it began.

 

I would have murdered all of you to be there. 

Harsh but fair.

 

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Not a single word from anyone at the premiere. Sounds like they're having this secret well kept.

Yeah, I just tried searching for reviews and couldn't find anything.

 

I watched the original series finale last night. Chills. I initially put in the wrong disc, and two seconds into the episode I knew it wasn't directed by David Lynch. The guy has a tone all his own. That rhymes.

post #699 of 2179
Saw a second hand from a second hand comment on Reddit that indicated that if you are a Fairweather fan of the show or don't have the series fresh in your mind it will be totally confusing. But really I guess you could say that of many shows.
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You could say that of Fire Walk With Me. 

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