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post #51 of 110
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Originally Posted by Schwartz View Post
Kinda makes sense. I mean, there's like 27 people in the whole state, so a little corruption goes a long way.
I've always considered North Dakota the least-interesting state...it's the closest I can travel to, and there is little difference that anyone can remark upon between it and my residence of Manitoba (except they have a Target!)
post #52 of 110
What cracks me up is that the guy has a defense attorney now. He said he was going to sell the seat on tape. ON TAPE! How do you deny that?
post #53 of 110
This guy is more out of touch with real life than Nixon in July 1974 (before Goldwater told him that it was over).

Why is this guy not taking one for the team? This only hurts Obama's creditability before he takes office. This guy is the most selfish politician I have seen since Clay Davis.

Of course, Larry Craig is still in office til January. This is nothing new.
post #54 of 110
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Originally Posted by EdHocken View Post
What cracks me up is that the guy has a defense attorney now. He said he was going to sell the seat on tape. ON TAPE! How do you deny that?
It was all metaphorical talk. The Feds have no real evidence, I tell ya, see, you dirty rat....
post #55 of 110
More importantly, he may have something to deal with... Need a lawyer for that.
post #56 of 110
Thread Starter 
Blago appoints Roland Burris
And At a press conference bobby Rush makes it all about race.
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"I would ask you the not hang or lynch the appointee as you castigate the appointer and separate the appointee from the appointer," said Rush. "Roland Burris is worthy and he is the only one who can stand in the gap during this time and gather the confidence, re-establishing confidence of the people of the state of Illinois."

Rush went on to essentially challenge the United State Senate to not seat Burris -- a course of action that the Democratic Caucus has said it will pursue.

"There are no African-Americans in the Senate, and I don't think that anyone, any U.S. Senator who is sitting right now would want to go on record to deny one African-American from being seated in the U.S. Senate. I don't think they want to go on record doing that.
Not like Rush is in danger of losing his seat but this will bring on a challenger.
post #57 of 110
Well, he did make a good selection. Someone unmentioned and essentially a place holder with no career to protect. Now whether or the senate would seat the guy. Who knows.
post #58 of 110
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Originally Posted by Anyawatchin Angel View Post
Blago appoints Roland Burris
And At a press conference bobby Rush makes it all about race.

Not like Rush is in danger of losing his seat but this will bring on a challenger.
Blogo picking a Afro American is one of the most cynical moves I have seen any politician make in a long time.
Burris might be OK, but, let's face it, any appointment by Blogo is badly tainted.
The Senate will almost certainly refuse to seat him.
post #59 of 110
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
The Senate will almost certainly refuse to seat him.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/toby_ha...od_blagojevich

Bob Rush already dealt out one of these just in case:

post #60 of 110
Brilliant move by Blago, I find it next to impossible to believe that the Senate dems won't seat him, sure they may try some legal trickery but thats about it.
post #61 of 110
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Originally Posted by Snaieke View Post
Brilliant move by Blago, I find it next to impossible to believe that the Senate dems won't seat him, sure they may try some legal trickery but thats about it.
My guess is that the Senate will refuse to seat him, even though it may not be justified in its refusal. The ensuing legal fight will give the State of Illinois time to figure out what they're going to do about it. Should be a fun and educational mess to watch.
post #62 of 110
At this point, Blago is like Charlie from It's Always Sunny. He might as well have screamed "WILD CARD BITCHES! YEEEEEHAWWWWW!" during the press conference.
post #63 of 110
Honestly I'm a little shocked that the Senate is refusing to seat Burris. Blagojevich is still the duly elected govenor and hasn't lost any of his powers (under indictment or not). I would think this sets a rather dangerous precedent (Senate ignoring the will of a duly elected official).
post #64 of 110
The Secretary of State of Illionis didn't sign off on it. The state legislature will not acknowledge it.


And apparently people in IL refer to Blago as G-Rod. Any truth to that folks?
post #65 of 110
I know the whys. Still dangerous.

If they (the people of Illinois) wanted to block it legally, then they should have tried to impeach him (Blago) before he made the appointment.

As it stands, Burris should be allowed the seat.
post #66 of 110
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Originally Posted by HBarr View Post
If they (the people of Illinois) wanted to block it legally, then they should have tried to impeach him (Blago) before he made the appointment.
I understand that point but there is no way impeachment proceedings would have gone that quickly. What Blago should have done was not make the appointment. Now, since the guy doesn't think logically he figured fuck it and made the appointment and the hell with it.
post #67 of 110
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Originally Posted by EdHocken View Post
I understand that point but there is no way impeachment proceedings would have gone that quickly. What Blago should have done was not make the appointment. Now, since the guy doesn't think logically he figured fuck it and made the appointment and the hell with it.
Hence my point. He is the duly elected official. Innocent until proven guilty. To deny him his govenor powers, foolish (and dangerous). This sucks for Illinois but hey, you learn from your mistakes and make provisions so this doesn't happen in the future.
post #68 of 110
And Burris gets the seat.
post #69 of 110
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Originally Posted by Snaieke View Post
And Burris gets the seat.
And then proceeds to tap dance for the press.
post #70 of 110
This was pretty much inevitable. Reid and Co put on a good show, but ultimately, their roadblocks were merely procedural and not even legally binding, it seems.
post #71 of 110
The real bad thing about this is some of the moving beyond race we saw with the election of OBama has just been lost. Don't tell me if Blago had appointed a White guy the Senate would not have fought this.
Heaven help Obama if his programs require any political courage on the part of the Senate.
post #72 of 110
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Originally Posted by EdHocken View Post

And apparently people in IL refer to Blago as G-Rod. Any truth to that folks?
Not that I've heard.
post #73 of 110
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
The real bad thing about this is some of the moving beyond race we saw with the election of OBama has just been lost. Don't tell me if Blago had appointed a White guy the Senate would not have fought this.
Heaven help Obama if his programs require any political courage on the part of the Senate.
I don't agree with this at all. I don't think this had anything to do with race. The very seat in question was part of the main focus of the Blago investigation. I honestly don't know how the seat can be given. What if it turns out that Burris was giving Blago head under the table to get the seat. Isn't that rather unethical to get the seat for favors? Do we know enough about this situtation to know if Burris wasn't giving favors?
post #74 of 110
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Originally Posted by Boomstick View Post
I don't agree with this at all. I don't think this had anything to do with race. The very seat in question was part of the main focus of the Blago investigation. I honestly don't know how the seat can be given. What if it turns out that Burris was giving Blago head under the table to get the seat. Isn't that rather unethical to get the seat for favors? Do we know enough about this situtation to know if Burris wasn't giving favors?
IF Burris is found to have received the chair as part of a deal with Blago, then I'm sure Burris will be impeached. As is, there is no legal reason (that I see) for him to be denied the seat. Blago still retains full govenor powers and as such can appoint a replacement.
post #75 of 110
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Impeached 114-1
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The Illinois House voted overwhelmingly Friday to impeach Gov. Rod Blagojevich, an unprecedented action that sets up a Senate trial on whether he should be thrown out for abuse of power, including allegations that he tried to sell President-elect Barack Obama's vacant Senate seat.

Impeachment required just 60 votes. The final result was 114-1.
And the lone vote for him
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During the House's 90-minute debate on impeachment, no one spoke up to defend the governor. But Rep. Milton Patterson, a Chicago Democrat, made the sole vote against impeaching Blagojevich.

Patterson said he read the impeachment committee's report and wasn't comfortable voting against the governor. "I have no firsthand knowledge of any of the evidence," he said.

"I went by my own gut feeling, it's as simple as that," he said. "I read the report. If the government is going to indict him, let them go ahead and do that. That's their job and I'm doing my job."

Rep. Elga Jefferies, another Chicago Democrat, voted "present."
So if you are a Democrat wanting a State House jobe there are 2 guys to go after.


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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
The real bad thing about this is some of the moving beyond race we saw with the election of OBama has just been lost. Don't tell me if Blago had appointed a White guy the Senate would not have fought this.
How do you figure the Dems are stopping this because he's black? They said before Blago nominated anyone they would do this. Only reason they relented is because Obama doesn't want this to go into his innaguration.

And Burris brought race into it during the press conference. He knew what Bobby Rush was going to say and he didn't want to say it first.

The Senate should have fought harder to stop this.
post #76 of 110
Anyone catch the press conference he was having today? The guy is a full blown Wild Card. And a repeating wild card at that.
post #77 of 110
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Originally Posted by EdHocken View Post
The guy is a full blown Wild Card. And a repeating wild card at that.
If he was more like this guy I'd vote for him
post #78 of 110
Since I can't access Youtube from where I am. I'll assume that was Charlie in his oilman outfit. Hell, that outfit alone would get votes.
post #79 of 110
December 9th was like Pearl Harbor for you and your family? I hope you drown to death in a bucket of dismembered cocks, Blago.
post #80 of 110
According to CNN, Daley said Blago was cuckoo. I'm sure he actually meant "Batshit nuts" but couldn't because of censors.
post #81 of 110
Flipping through the channels this morning, I saw he was on "The View". Barbara Walters was talking to him, and she asked him, "Did you say this seat was a goldmine, and is wasn't going to be had cheap?" He said, "Those were private conversations taken out of context." She asked him again, "but did you say it?" Then he said, "I'm sure when all the tapes are heard, the full story will be known." Then she got all pissed and said, "If your not going to answer questions, and tell the truth, why are you here?"

It was funny, the dude was a complete mess.
post #82 of 110
I saw it, too, Bark. The whole interview, with Blagoevich sitting on The View set alone, and Barbara on the monitor, was one of the oddest things I've ever seen on tv.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGrNRCbI3VI
post #83 of 110
He's... just... so EARNEST about being slimy.

I think he might have finally attained the status of 'Magnificent Bastard'
post #84 of 110
This whole story will make an amazing HBO movie in a couple of years.
post #85 of 110
Come on Greg Kinnear. You know you want the role COME ON!
post #86 of 110
It was really awkward to watch him see all the clips from late night shows making fun of him on Larry King Live. He laughed at one or two but at the rest just stared in a haze. They even put up a lot that just made fun of his hair and he looked dumbfounded. I almost felt sorry for the guy.
post #87 of 110
Maybe he is laying the groundworks for an insanity plea when his criminal trial comes along.
I think he has pretty much guaranteed that in a week or so he will no longer be the Governor of Illinois.
post #88 of 110
Ed Koch said it best:

"He's giving the authorities the middle finger."
post #89 of 110
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Originally Posted by EdHocken View Post
Ed Koch said it best:

"He's giving the authorities the middle finger."
Yeah, but he is giving defiance of Authority a bad name.
post #90 of 110
I wouldn't say defiance in the face of authority is a good thing. You're going to need context to back that up.

But frankly I don't want to get into a discussion as to whether or not "Fuck the system" types are on the right track.
post #91 of 110
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Originally Posted by EdHocken View Post
I wouldn't say defiance in the face of authority is a good thing. You're going to need context to back that up.

But frankly I don't want to get into a discussion as to whether or not "Fuck the system" types are on the right track.
Oh, I agree 100% that a lot of the "Fuck The System" crap you see..on the internet in particular..is just plain stupid.
I was just trying to make a joke on Koch's comment.
post #92 of 110
Oh okay, I admit I don't always get the intent of a comment because it's text. Carry on.

Also, I wonder if the senate is gonna boot this guy out by Friday?
post #93 of 110
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Originally Posted by EdHocken View Post
Come on Greg Kinnear. You know you want the role COME ON!
Noooo, Gary Cole!
post #94 of 110
I'm just glad that this happened, because I don't know what the Daily Show would have done otherwise.
post #95 of 110
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Originally Posted by Admiral Shark View Post
Noooo, Gary Cole!
Damn you're right. Usually I'm the one carrying the flag for Cole. Nice pick up there, Shark.
post #96 of 110
Get ready for some comedy. Rod wants to give a closing argument tomorrow.
post #97 of 110
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Originally Posted by EdHocken View Post
Get ready for some comedy. Rod wants to give a closing argument tomorrow.
Watching it now. He's got 90 minutes to make his case.

It's like watching a spider struggle in the toilet water.
post #98 of 110
Oh snap!
post #99 of 110
I don't think I cringed this much during Palin's answerings during her debate with Biden.

God that was horrible.
post #100 of 110
I think a Gary Busey rant would have made more sense.

His hair was perfect though.
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