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Ben-Hur (1959)

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This film very rarely gets mentioned around here, maybe because people find its earnestness a bit hokey these days, I know some people really aren't huge Heston fans while for others, maybe its such a deadset classic it gets taken for granted, or maybe - you haven't seen it.

If not, you have to - the term 'they don't make 'em like this anymore' was almost invented for this movie...

Either way, I have and always will love the shit out of this film. One of the first great epics I got sat down to as a boy (the first being DeMilles Ten Commandments), I think this film helped foster my kitchen sink enthusiasm for everything related to Ancient Roman history from this era that survives intect to this day.

Where to begin with the mother of all epic features?

Do we start with Heston? Pretty maligned as an actor and even a movie star these days, this for me is the quintissential Heston performance, his Judah Ben-Hur is strong man pushed to emotional extremes. Does he pull it off? For me he definately does, so much so that he essentially carries the weight of this film on his back. He brought a gravitas and intensity to the part that helped ground the film, considering how pseudo-biblical it becomes by it's conclusion.

That said, I think the films secret weapon is to have an antagonist who only hates our hero because he's essentially a jilted lover. Stephen Boyd's Massala, and the way Gore Vidal wrote the character is brilliant. Boyd plays the part so that the character does everything barr snog his old best friend when they meet at the films opening, and looks like he'd love to anyway - and the jilted lover angle is the only real way to explain why Massala would turn so quickly and viciously on his childhood sweetheart, I mean mate.



Billy Wilder's (ETA: No dumbnuts - William Wyler!!!) direction is flawless, to be able to have the sort of breath-taking sequences to handle like the naval battle and of course the chariot race long before some computer geek was creating them in a darkened room while munching cheetos, must have been a logistical nightmare, and yet he's still able to ground the film with small beautiful little character moments to counter-point the epicness of it all.



I could go on and on about this film, but these threads are for you guys rather than to have me monologing. let me just give special mentions to the iconic beautiful score by Mikos Rosza and actor High Griffiths, Sheik Ilderim, who manages to skirt the limits of eccentric acting without ever descending into hamminess or parody.

...and I don't care how young or jaded you may be - the chariot race is still one of the greatest and most thrilling action sequences in the history of cinema. I've seen it so many times, yet, it still gets my blood pumping and me on the edge of my seat to this day.



I've been lucky enough to see this on three seperate occassions at the cinemas and will do so again. I don't know why an avowed agnostic lapsed catholic like myself gets caught up in this film like I do. Maybe it just got me while I was young, but at the end of the day its just a fucking ripping good yarn, regardless of what religious bent it may have.

For those chewers out there yet to see this, it really is one of those 'classics to see before you die' IMO.

There's a reason "bigger than Ben-Hur" is still a phrase used to this day.
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Went to a private Christian Academy growing up. This was like the one movie they'd show every year (well, once Gone With The Wind--but you had to have a signed permission slip, one girl had to leave during the 'damn' scene. Haha.). So, as you can imagine, with my friends it was a joke. As uncool as could be.

Over the course of time, the baggage has fallen away, and it's one of my favorites of all time. It's an Epic that earns the label.

Irritating how people can't look past Heston's politics and appreciate him for the unique movie star he is. Over the top practically at all times, sure. But like Duke Wayne, the man had presence. When he appeared on screen in something like this there's electricity.

Love how it's a Revenge story wrapped in the story of Christ!

See how the resolution comes across sappy to many, but man, early on, Heston really sells his character's anger & hatred.

You saw this at the Fox? I was so looking forward to seeing it on the big screen. A personal Holy Grail. Unfortunately, family shit gone in the way.

Has the Chariot race ever been topped?

Amazing how many action movies--and even the Star Wars films--sampled beats from this. Hell, ROTS pretty much takes the basic character conflict.

EDIT-its William Wyler by the way
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Nah we have a retro-cinema here in Melbourne by the name of The Astor, one of the last unspoiled art deco movie houses. It used to play the film on three week runs that used to sell out and now it still usually plays it every Easter...



I own it on dvd but there's nothing as good as seeing it on the big screen (and the Astor screen is huge), I reckon I'm due for another cinema watch - its been about 8 years or so.

Thing is, yeah Hestons politics couldn't be more opposite to mine, but so what, the guy was a legend (the Duke comparison is apt actually).

He may have been over the top, but you watch a scene like Judah denouncing Massala, ("If that is the choice, I am against you") and tell me there's not emotional intensity there.
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Billy Wilder's direction is flawless
William Wyler.

Don't worry, I've made that mistake before too.

I love Ben-Hur to no end. I'll fight to the death that Lawrence of Arabia is the single-greatest epic ever made, but Ben-Hur is probably the film that has its poster in the dictionary next to the word. And it is a bit disheartening that people can't look beyond Heston's politics and just enjoy one of the biggest specatcles in film history. Oh well, their losses.

And Elvis is right on the money about Heston's presence (same with the Duke). He had the look, the voice and the charisma to make any movie work. In my opinion, to make these long epics work, producers either have to get the most charasmatic guy around (Heston) or the absolute greatest actor in the world (O'Toole). If you go for the middle ground, your film is fucked. Guys who can carry three/four-hour films are a part of a rare breed. That's why the two of these guys have starred in a few of them.

And yes, Rain Dog, that chariot chase is just as good today as it was in 1959. It's so exciting and well shot. The chase in the silent film version is good too, and actually shows a stunt gone wrong where one guy broke his neck. He could have very easily been killed.
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William Wyler.

Don't worry, I've made that mistake before too.

I love Ben-Hur to no end. I'll fight to the death that Lawrence of Arabia is the single-greatest epic ever made, but Ben-Hur is probably the film that has its poster in the dictionary next to the word. And it is a bit disheartening that people can't look beyond Heston's politics and just enjoy one of the biggest specatcles in film history. Oh well, their losses.

And Elvis is right on the money about Heston's presence (same with the Duke). He had the look, the voice and the charisma to make any movie work. In my opinion, to make these long epics work, producers either have to get the most charasmatic guy around (Heston) or the absolute greatest actor in the world (O'Toole). If you go for the middle ground, your film is fucked. Guys who can carry three/four-hour films are a part of a rare breed. That's why the two of these guys have starred in a few of them.

And yes, Rain Dog, that chariot chase is just as good today as it was in 1959. It's so exciting and well shot. The chase in the silent film version is good too, and actually shows a stunt gone wrong where one guy broke his neck. He could have very easily been killed.
I think that the the silent film is on tonight or was that last night?
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Went to a private Christian Academy growing up. This was like the one movie they'd show every year (well, once Gone With The Wind--but you had to have a signed permission slip, one girl had to leave during the 'damn' scene. Haha.).
Motherfuck.
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Just listening to Rozsas score here at work. So good. It's making me realise this film really is a part of my geek DNA.

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My distaste for the Christians and their monstrous crimes against the Roman state have prevented me from ever sitting down and watching this film in it's entirety, but with that said, I've seen the chariot race and it undoubtedly stands as one of the greatest scenes in all of cinema. The sound of the thundering horses, the palpable danger, the epic scale of the physical sets, all of it awes in a way that no 100 million dollar CGI effect ever could. It's breathtaking

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And yes, Rain Dog, that chariot chase is just as good today as it was in 1959. It's so exciting and well shot. The chase in the silent film version is good too, and actually shows a stunt gone wrong where one guy broke his neck. He could have very easily been killed.


 

That chase is excellent as well, and it features the death of nearly a dozen horses with stunts that even the 1959 version could no longer perform. It's a shame, because those horses from the silent film version have achieved veritable immortality. Their final moments thrill nearly a century after their death, when most race horses ETC fade into obscurity

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I bought myself the blu ultimate edition as an early Christmas gift to myself. Can't wait to watch it over the holidays. If I had to pick a single favorite movie, this would be it.

 

With the exception of the hilariously obvious miniatures for the sea battle, the effects hold up pretty well, especially the matte paintings. And I really believe this film has pretty much everything - and what I love about it (and this is talked about in the extras) is that it's actually an intimate story told with an epic setting. This isn't about all of Rome or the plight of Judea under Roman rule or anything. It's Judah Ben-Hur's story - which is epic in scope, but very personal in the details.

 

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I reckon I'll hold off until Easter and go see it on the big screen again. I still haven't done that and now it's been well over a decade.

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