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HOLY TERROR, BATMAN is still a go!

post #1 of 78
12/20/08 at 1:22pm
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I thought he completely removed Batman from the story, but I guess not.
You show those gay, child molesting, cross dressing nazi terrorists who's boss, Frank!

http://www.superherohype.com/news/sp...ws.php?id=7908

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Miller: It's been a while since I published any. There's "Holy Terror, Batman," which is about 40 pages from completion now and there's "The Spirit Storyboards" which will be coming out. There's hundreds of them and it's going to be a big fat book when it comes out. But right now, I'm in love with directing, so it's slowing down my comic book work.
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post #2 of 78
12/20/08 at 1:38pm
wow...really? ha ha ha ha
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post #3 of 78
12/20/08 at 1:59pm
So, is this going to be more or less embarassing than Dr.Doom crying after 9/11?
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post #4 of 78
12/20/08 at 2:11pm
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Well I don't know how it could be funnier than Dr. Doom, Magneto and Kingpin crying and standing together in WTC rubble.
And I thought for sure that Holy Terror would go the way of AMERICAN POWER, Chuck Dixon's canceled tale of a gimp who beats the shit out of Osama and co.

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post #5 of 78
12/20/08 at 3:41pm
Oh Frank, you scamp. Obviously I will be reading this as soon as possible.
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post #6 of 78
12/20/08 at 4:03pm
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It's also supposed to be 200 magnificent pages.
Wow.
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post #7 of 78
12/20/08 at 5:29pm
I have a feeling I'll be saving 20 magnificent dollars by avoiding HOLY TERROR BATMAN!
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post #8 of 78
12/20/08 at 5:33pm
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I will be buying the deluxe signed and numbered hardcover edition.
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post #9 of 78
12/20/08 at 5:53pm
Holy Terror, Batman will be the comic that destroys Frank Millers career.
I cant believe this guy used to be my hero as a comic loving geek in the 80s.
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post #10 of 78
12/20/08 at 5:57pm
All that delicious and mind expanding NUKE went to his head!
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post #11 of 78
12/20/08 at 6:03pm
This book is going to be superb in a completely non-ironic way.
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post #12 of 78
12/20/08 at 6:07pm
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Originally Posted by Randolph Carter View Post
Holy Terror, Batman will be the comic that destroys Frank Millers career.
Yes, because everybody who matters will read it, right?
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post #13 of 78
12/20/08 at 6:14pm
Well i am gonna read it. Its gonna be awesome.
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post #14 of 78
12/20/08 at 6:16pm
Awesomely horrendous.

I think the next question to ask is that will the story arrive on time or will the final issue take nine months to show up?
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post #15 of 78
12/20/08 at 6:30pm
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Oh I'm sure it'll be a while before we actually see this. He's in love with directing now, and I think he'll at least be doing sin city 2.
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post #16 of 78
12/20/08 at 7:41pm
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Originally Posted by EdHocken View Post
Awesomely horrendous.

I think the next question to ask is that will the story arrive on time or will the final issue take nine months to show up?

The answer to your question is, no, Jim Lee is not doing the art.
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post #17 of 78
12/20/08 at 9:29pm
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Originally Posted by EdHocken View Post
Awesomely horrendous.

I think the next question to ask is that will the story arrive on time or will the final issue take nine months to show up?
I thought it was going to be released as a complete graphic novel. Either way I'm buying the fucking thing.
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post #18 of 78
12/20/08 at 10:05pm
The plans as of now are for it to be released as a completed edition.

Frank Miller, just stop. Everything.
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post #19 of 78
12/21/08 at 8:42pm
I hope he stays out of comics. I'm tired of the guy hate fucking his own style and making retroactively me hate everything he's done. Sin City and Dark Knight are now shit rape to me. I just want to be able to maintain my love for his Daredevil.
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post #20 of 78
12/21/08 at 8:57pm
If Miller's "little piece of propaganda" can crest the majesty of the following image, consider me sold.

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post #21 of 78
12/22/08 at 4:08am
I can understand doing an homage to the war-time antics of those days, but...for 200 fucking pages?

Jesus Christ, I get it already.
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post #22 of 78
12/22/08 at 1:59pm
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I can understand doing an homage to the war-time antics of those days, but...for 200 fucking pages?

Jesus Christ, I get it already.
You must not get it. Frank Miller is a very, very important person. He probably needs 500 pages.
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post #23 of 78
12/22/08 at 5:15pm
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You must not get it. Frank Miller is a very, very important person. He probably needs 500 pages.
And gallons and gallons of India ink. 'Cause there'll be ninjas in this... and lots of shadows... at night... mark my words.
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post #24 of 78
12/22/08 at 10:06pm
Why is 200 pages a problem? Do you not read novels because they're too long?
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post #25 of 78
12/22/08 at 10:13pm
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Half the book will probably be splash pages with strange photoshop gradient backgrounds.
No worries, people!
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post #26 of 78
12/22/08 at 10:14pm
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Why is 200 pages a problem? Do you not read novels because they're too long?
Nooo...I just think doing 200 pages of what may be one-note satire is a little much.
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post #27 of 78
12/22/08 at 10:17pm
200 pages of graphic storytelling isn't all that long, really. When you put together all the issues of a running story in the monthly comics, they probably come to at least that. Do you really think this is going to be more of a chore than the Spider-Man Clone Saga? I think not.
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post #28 of 78
12/22/08 at 10:22pm
I don't think people would be complaining about 200+ pages if anyone thought this had a chance of being any good.
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post #29 of 78
12/22/08 at 10:34pm
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I don't think people would be complaining about 200+ pages if anyone thought this had a chance of being any good.
That's where I'm coming from. I have zero confidence that Miller can stretch this premise for a single issue, let alone an OGN.
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post #30 of 78
12/22/08 at 11:34pm
So how exactly did Frank Miller become the George Lucas of comics? Mind you, I'm not even sure what George Lucas did to deserve the hate.
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post #31 of 78
12/22/08 at 11:38pm
Divorced Marcia.
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post #32 of 78
12/22/08 at 11:42pm
I can't speak for anyone else, but I've always disliked the guy...

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After YEARS of thinking Im going mad in geek circles watching them fucking fellate this naked emperor, I must be honest I take great shaudenfreude in watching this ridiculously over-rated, juvenile, pseudo-fascist, objectivist, homophobic, sexually confused comic writer that typifies so much that's wrong not just with modern comics but many of their fucking readers, become the victim of his own hubris and obviously massive ego.

Fuck Frank Miller. Bring on The Spirit!
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post #33 of 78
12/22/08 at 11:44pm
Schadenfreude. I didn't know he was an objectivist?
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post #34 of 78
12/22/08 at 11:44pm
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I don't hate the guy, but I think a lot of people turned on him after DARK KNIGHT STRIKES BACK. It really is a lazy, ugly, scribbled out mess out a paycheck comic.
All Star Batman & Robin is funny, though.
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post #35 of 78
12/22/08 at 11:59pm
I'd rather read The Dark Knight Strikes Again...um, again...than anything Rob Liefeld ever did. It just seems odd to me that fans hold more hate for someone who once did great work, and stumbled, than for people who've done nothing but crap. I'll always love The Dark Knight returns, no matter how much garbage he generates from this day forward. If you let an artist's current work ruin something you once liked, that's more your problem than his.

Rain Dog excepted, since he apparently didn't like it to begin with.
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post #36 of 78
12/23/08 at 12:25am
I know this is utter blasphemy round here, but I remember the first time I read Watchmen being utterly and totally blown away yet read Dark Knight Returns and just kinda felt 'meh' about it.

Look I'll admit I'm an Alan Moore man as far as favourite comic writers go but it always struck me that Miller and his fans were precisely the kind of thing Moore was using Rorschach to comment on.

He's not just the opposite of 'my thing' as far as comic books go, he symbolises damn near every problem I have with the medium.

Every medium has it's hacks, so I don't get annoyed at the Liefields et al, but when you have a personality as dominant and celebrated as Miller is, I feel his style is actively keeping comics mired in retarded teenage male wish-fullfillment territory, when it could be SO much more.

ETA:...but then besides Moores stuff my favourite graphic novels are J.M.DeMatteis Brooklyn Dreams, the Preacher series, and MAUS, so maybe thats just my tastes.
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post #37 of 78
12/23/08 at 12:31am
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I'd rather read The Dark Knight Strikes Again...um, again...than anything Rob Liefeld ever did. It just seems odd to me that fans hold more hate for someone who once did great work, and stumbled, than for people who've done nothing but crap. I'll always love The Dark Knight returns, no matter how much garbage he generates from this day forward. If you let an artist's current work ruin something you once liked, that's more your problem than his.

Rain Dog excepted, since he apparently didn't like it to begin with.
Fuck that. Rob Liefeld has provided the world with hours upon hours of hilarity by existing for ridicule. He is one of the best easy targets every to walk the face of the earth and god bless him for it.
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post #38 of 78
12/23/08 at 1:31am
Also, he gave Captain America tits.
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post #39 of 78
12/23/08 at 1:55am
Re-posted from the Spirit Post-release thread because I've only just discovered it, love it and think it's just as apt here:

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post #40 of 78
12/23/08 at 10:55am
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I'd rather read The Dark Knight Strikes Again...um, again...than anything Rob Liefeld ever did. It just seems odd to me that fans hold more hate for someone who once did great work, and stumbled, than for people who've done nothing but crap. .
You really think there's more hate for Miller than Liefeld? I doubt that.

If his work merely declined in quality most fans would give him a pass. But it's not just that his writing/art sucks now. It's also that he actively hates on comic book characters and comic book readers. So fuck him.
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post #41 of 78
12/23/08 at 6:28pm
Personally, I think that some of these characters, and most of the fans, deserve some hate. Doesn't mean he's doing it particularly well, mind you. But a lot of this attitude reminds of all the sci fans who hated Harlan Ellison in the seventies and eighties because he kept calling them on their bullshit, and pointing out how weak a lot of the objects of their obsessions really were.
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post #42 of 78
12/23/08 at 10:00pm
Miller, when he's on, is a brilliant storyteller, it's just that he frequently has nothing to say. At all. So he falls back on self-reflexive "satire".
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post #43 of 78
12/24/08 at 4:52am
At this point I'm starting to think it isn't satire and that Frank Miller is just a fucking idiot stuck with the emotional and mental maturity of a 13 year old.
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post #44 of 78
1/7/09 at 7:18pm
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Miller, when he's on, is a brilliant storyteller, it's just that he frequently has nothing to say. At all. So he falls back on self-reflexive "satire".

Dead on. I have no problem with making Al Qaida the Villians (they are NOT nice people, folks), but have no faith, considering his recent work, with Miller being able to pull this off.
And considering what the reception of "The Spirit" was like, Frank Miller had better not plan on a long career as a filmmaker.
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post #45 of 78
4/24/10 at 2:03pm
http://www.comicsalliance.com/2010/0...l-coming-soon/
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I'm still doing HOLY TERROR! -- it's just not a Batman story anymore. The content got too extreme, and a brand new superhero popped into my head. I'm 94 double-page spreads into it, with more to go. It's going to be big and loud, I promise. Neal Adams has fallen so in love with ODYSSEY that he's scripting it himself. The artwork is STUNNING. I've just turned in XERXES #1 and am going strong. I'm keeping busy, folks! Having a great time! FM
Miller should join the army and go to Afghanistan and fight Osama bin Ladin himself. That would be more entertaining than reading his shitty comics.
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post #46 of 78
4/24/10 at 2:27pm
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The whole book is going to be a series of scribbly double page spreads?
Should be interesting! And I can't wait to see what this new AL QAEDA SMASHER superhero he dreamed up looks like.

Oh and shockingly, that Spirit storyboards book never came out.
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post #47 of 78
4/24/10 at 3:45pm
During the promotional tour for The Spirit, Miller claimed he wasn't thinking about new comic work because he was in love with making films. Guess he thought better of that idea once he dislodged that fail boot from his ass. I used to be a big Miller defender, but his status in the industry is now so garishly ornamental that I can barely stand him these days.
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post #48 of 78
6/1/10 at 9:52pm
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And here's XERXES.
Now with enough gold chains to rival Mr. T.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=66700

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post #49 of 78
6/1/10 at 10:28pm
aaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahaha

What a dick.
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post #50 of 78
7/30/10 at 1:00pm
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Yesssssssssss HOLY TERROR will be done in a month!
Batman is out (Miller claims that it was his choice) and THE FIXER is in. He's a black ops guy who basically fights crime for the exercise....
UNTIL 9/11.
Then shit gets real.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/hero...e-can-go-.html
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