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post #1 of 13
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Surely I'm not the only one to bear malice towards this holiday...the time when employers promise bonuses or raises but deliver boxes of chocolates to fatten you up instead...and those treats are delivered from your supervisor's own pocket, as whatever your company CEO does to celebrate this "spirit of giving" is purely to stuff his own pockets...perhaps I'm a scrooge, lonely and keeping every coin I earn to myself just as my superiors do, except it's easier to enjoy myself throughout the other eleven months of the year...when arguments with family members about Christianity are less bountiful...but I'm probably incorrect. As my fellow kin describe, the Bible has answers to all, even when not obviously stated therein...so I can only drink an extravagant amount of scotch while being informed I'm closed-minded and "need to think for myself" to discover Christ, find a white virgin to fuck and purchase enough household appliances to prove my love to her. Fuck Christmas.
post #2 of 13
Yeargh!!! I hear ya.

I figure you may as well focus on the spending time with your loved ones aspect of it though. I mean, lets face it, Christmas isn't going away. You may as well use it to show people you care and spend some time with them.

To quote Ricky from Trailer Park Boys, Christmas is about getting drunk and stoned with your family.
post #3 of 13
Sounds rough.

I have a very large French Catholic family of varying degrees of devotion, and we don't argue about it. It isn't brought up. Some of us go to mass, some don't. I may go one of these years because a church lit by candlelight is a lovely thing. I've never been asked to say Grace at the dinner(s), and when Grace is said I don't mind admiring the silverware for 30 seconds. No one's ever asked, but if they do I have no problem saying I'm an atheist. All in all, I love Christmas, and religion doesn't enter into it. Hell, the Matriarch is the most religious of them all and she manages to be civil to her lesbian granddaughter and her wife despite her obvious disapproval. Beaudoin blood runs thick.

But I hate this Christmas. A cat in need of daily medication is keeping me in Calgary this year, not that I'd be looking forward to the drive north much anyway.
post #4 of 13
God Im glad I have a basically secular family.

Christmas for me is eating too many prawns, a bit of lobster, lots of ham, roast pork and turkey, drinking too much wine then watching the looks on my niece and nephews faces when they opened the pressies Ive got them before passing out on the couch.
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God Im glad I have a basically secular family.
I'm glad I have an interstate family.
It's orphans Xmas, Trailer Park Boys style at this end.
I found out just yesterday the family doesn't even spend The Joyous Season together anymore; I got out early when the going was good!
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post #7 of 13
Well, I went to a funeral and ended up being a pallbearer, so it's been a hell of a Christmas time for me.
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Well, I went to a funeral and ended up being a pallbearer, so it's been a hell of a Christmas time for me.
Lost a lifetime friend last weak, too, so this Xmas is kind of a downer. As for childhood memories never had a tree or believed in Santa. Christmas was always just a time for family get togethers and Presents. I was a rich and only child, so I got lots and lots of toys.
post #9 of 13
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Oh, this has been a year fraught with death around myself as well. I just wish there was some elixir I could slip into a Christian's egg nog to induce doubt. Arsenic? Even the parents of my deceased friend have a little existentialism in them, but whenever religion is summoned into family conversation, the devout will question my reasoning - "So this is all there is? No purpose? Why are you still alive, then?" - without realizing that those very queries would make for a true discussion, and involve actual philosophizing; in essence, they try to avoid topics of substance (when provoking my atheism!) because it's easier to get along otherwise; nevermind any ill feelings or reservations towards others, which are suppressed or spread lightly as gossip, building over years until amounting to physical violence against another - their principle objection to atheists is based on their sociability, as if I'm simply trying to cause trouble, while a cousin of mine is beaten by her husband and nothing is said about them beyond subtle gossip; because the couple makes appearances together like responsible, well-to-do adults with their relatives, and the husband is agreeable with the rest of the family on a social basis; despite threatening my uncle's life over the phone because he wouldn't send any more cash to them.

One has to step back and recognize how fucking absurd the familial unit is; and how, eventually, most of us will end up continuing the cycle, of which the deity concept is usually tossed into at some point. Man, I can't wait until Christmas now that I think of it: "So how's throwing her down the stairs?"

And I'm not even especially close to any of them; it's just amazing what will fly within the family that no one would put up with outside of it.
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Oh, this has been a year fraught with death around myself as well. I just wish there was some elixir I could slip into a Christian's egg nog to induce doubt. Arsenic? Even the parents of my deceased friend have a little existentialism in them, but whenever religion is summoned into family conversation, the devout will question my reasoning - "So this is all there is? No purpose? Why are you still alive, then?" - without realizing that those very queries would make for a true discussion, and involve actual philosophizing; in essence, they try to avoid topics of substance (when provoking my atheism!) because it's easier to get along otherwise; nevermind any ill feelings or reservations towards others, which are suppressed or spread lightly as gossip, building over years until amounting to physical violence against another - their principle objection to atheists is based on their sociability, as if I'm simply trying to cause trouble, while a cousin of mine is beaten by her husband and nothing is said about them beyond subtle gossip; because the couple makes appearances together like responsible, well-to-do adults with their relatives, and the husband is agreeable with the rest of the family on a social basis; despite threatening my uncle's life over the phone because he wouldn't send any more cash to them.

One has to step back and recognize how fucking absurd the familial unit is; and how, eventually, most of us will end up continuing the cycle, of which the deity concept is usually tossed into at some point. Man, I can't wait until Christmas now that I think of it: "So how's throwing her down the stairs?"

And I'm not even especially close to any of them; it's just amazing what will fly within the family that no one would put up with outside of it.
1 Corinthians 1:23but we preach Christ [Gal 5:11; 1 Pet 2:8] crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles,
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1 Corinthians 1:23but we preach Christ [Gal 5:11; 1 Pet 2:8] crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles,
...do what?
post #12 of 13
Well, today had some nice moments, but overall it was a shitty Xmas to cap the shittiest of years. I can't fucking wait to be out of this godawful asshole year.
post #13 of 13
Me too, but I have the strange suspicion this year isn't done with me yet. It is probably done raping me in the ass but I feel my face is about to meet some concrete.
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