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post #1 of 53
1/8/09 at 12:40pm
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Lookie here.

I may have to crack and finally buy a turntable.
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post #2 of 53
1/8/09 at 12:44pm
Awesome. I already own this CD, but I think I'll be trading up when this comes out.
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post #3 of 53
1/8/09 at 12:46pm
The commentary track is the deal-maker for me here. Few albums warrant such a thing - but this is one of the few. I am curious to A/B this with the original 1989 master.
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post #4 of 53
1/8/09 at 12:47pm
This..."plus the reissue gives fans access to a free download of a “track-by-track” album commentary, with Mike D, Ad-Rock and MCA talking about the songs while the track plays in the background, much like Director’s Commentaries on DVDs."...is what I want the most.

ETA: Yeah, what Reggie said.
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post #5 of 53
1/8/09 at 12:51pm
I didn't see any mention of a Vinyl reissue.
-I have a vinyl copy and it does sound pretty damn good. Let's hope that they have at least a limited vinyl reissue.

P.S. - is anyone else kind of freaked out that Paul's Boutique is 20 years old?
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post #6 of 53
1/8/09 at 1:03pm
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Good Christ, you're right. I've been making a lot of mistakes like this lately. I should probably just go move into a home and save everyone a lot of trouble.
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post #7 of 53
1/8/09 at 2:18pm
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Originally Posted by TURBO-1984 View Post

P.S. - is anyone else kind of freaked out that Paul's Boutique is 20 years old?
Yeah, absolutely. Just another nail in the coffin of my youth.

I still deem Pauls Boutique the Beasties best album. The commentary on this one warrants a buy alone. Thanks for the heads up!
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post #8 of 53
1/8/09 at 3:44pm
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Originally Posted by TURBO-1984 View Post

P.S. - is anyone else kind of freaked out that Paul's Boutique is 20 years old?

No kidding. Just think of the geek freakout when this summer marks the 20th anniversary of Burton's Batman.
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post #9 of 53
1/8/09 at 4:24pm
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Originally Posted by Jan View Post
I still deem Pauls Boutique the Beasties best album.
That's because it's science fact.
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post #10 of 53
1/8/09 at 5:16pm
And with the price of clearing samples, this album could NEVER be made again. This is the one album that makes me feel like a hypocrite for rolling my eyes when the P. Diddies of the world steal a chorus or a break for their hits. What the Dust Brothers did here, with late eighties sampling technology, is nothing short of genius, and the Beasties laid their best lyrics (less obnoxious than on License to Ill yet without the buzz-killing political correctness that taints some of their later work*) on top. I'm looking forward to hearing the remaster; the CD always sounded a little flat and quiet to me, as a pre-Loudness War release.


*Seriously, they tried to talk Prodigy out of playing "Smack My Bitch Up". That's like that Simpsons episode where they try to convince the Chili Peppers to sing "I'd like to hug and kiss you" in "Give It Away".
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post #11 of 53
1/8/09 at 9:34pm
I'd rather hear a commentary from the Dust Brothers. But yeah, killer album, far and away their best. Doubt I'll re-buy it though.
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post #12 of 53
1/8/09 at 9:40pm
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Originally Posted by Ratty View Post
No kidding. Just think of the geek freakout when this summer marks the 20th anniversary of Burton's Batman.
Or UHF-Fest down at the Airport Hilton. BE THERE!
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post #13 of 53
1/8/09 at 9:49pm
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Originally Posted by Mattioli View Post
That's because it's science fact.
Droppin' science like Galileo dropped the orange. Yeah, I'll be buying this.
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post #14 of 53
1/8/09 at 10:11pm
Really hoped for a Rick Rubin remastered anniversary edition of LICENSED TO ILL. Still a fun record. He talked about wanting to do it. (Also adding the "lost" track, a cover of The Beatles' "I'm Down")
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post #15 of 53
1/8/09 at 10:20pm
Jiminy, this sounds like greatness. Good find. I'll want to obtain this.

Definitely their finest hour.
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post #16 of 53
1/8/09 at 10:49pm
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Originally Posted by Fat Elvis View Post
Really hoped for a Rick Rubin remastered anniversary edition of LICENSED TO ILL. Still a fun record. He talked about wanting to do it. (Also adding the "lost" track, a cover of The Beatles' "I'm Down")
Didn't the Boys pretty much disown this album?
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post #17 of 53
1/8/09 at 11:00pm
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Originally Posted by Nexus-7 View Post
Didn't the Boys pretty much disown this album?
Sort of. The original title was "Don't Be A Faggot". You can imagine how embarrassed they get.

Still their Def Jam roots give them Hip-Hop credibility. And if they're playing before a predominately Black audience (like the Hip Hop Honors), it's "Slow And Low" they're gonna rock, not "Sabotage".
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post #18 of 53
1/9/09 at 12:17am
Well, this is basically mjy favourite hiphop album of all time so this is quite simply a must-purchase for me.

Thanks for the heads-up Misfit
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post #19 of 53
1/9/09 at 1:43am
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Originally Posted by Nexus-7 View Post
Didn't the Boys pretty much disown this album?
Naw, that's a bit exxagerated. They just don't like the idea of being identified primarily with that album. I get the feeling that they went through a period of being embarassed by it, but have since come to grips with it. And I think these days people recognize their whole career more than they did in the 90's.
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post #20 of 53
1/9/09 at 2:54am
I don't like buying vinyl reissues (I'd rather have what I know is the original master, even if the new one is some heavy 180 gram shit) but I'd probably pop for this if they dropped it on wax. I don't even own it on CD, because everyone else always did.

Too bad they're doing this now, too, post-Grand Royal. Via GR this would have been a beautiful piece of vinyl.
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post #21 of 53
1/9/09 at 2:02pm
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Originally Posted by Big Jim Slade View Post
I'm looking forward to hearing the remaster; the CD
That's the big thing. When I'm cleaning the house, I like to put all the Beastie discs in the disc-changer and put it on shuffle, or make a mix of their stuff in iTunes, and the Paul's Boutique stuff is always so much quieter than everything else. It really annoys me. So for that reason, I'll do the rare double-dip on this. (And I wish they would do the same for License to Ill, because that's got the same problem.)
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post #22 of 53
1/12/09 at 5:25pm
If anyone needs something to look at while listening to the re-issue, you can adorn your walls with some artwork inspired by the Beastie Boys.

http://beasties88.blogspot.com/
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post #23 of 53
1/19/09 at 7:49pm
Vinyl: http://www.insound.com/Beastie_Boys_...in/p/INS52437/
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post #24 of 53
1/28/09 at 10:31pm
FYI - the release date has been pushed back to April.
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post #25 of 53
1/28/09 at 11:29pm
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Originally Posted by Kim. Criminal View Post
FYI - the release date has been pushed back to April.

I just went to Amazon to buy the vinyl, and it indicates it has been released, but won't ship till the 2nd week of February (even with one-or-two day shipping). So I don't know what's going on.
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post #26 of 53
1/29/09 at 5:59pm
$21.99 is a damn good price for 180gram reissue of a DOUBLE album. That plus the audio commentary download should make a pretty nice package. I just hope that they don't alter the original cover by putting any text on it.
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post #27 of 53
2/2/09 at 7:43pm
Amazon just told me my vinyl just shipped. And now I'm really regretting the cheapskate shipping rate.
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post #28 of 53
2/3/09 at 7:28pm
For your downloading pleasure:

http://paulsboutique.beastieboys.com/

The audio commentary can be downloaded for free. You can tell that they haven't listened to it in a long time.
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post #29 of 53
2/5/09 at 4:04pm
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Originally Posted by Matt M View Post
For your downloading pleasure:

http://paulsboutique.beastieboys.com/

The audio commentary can be downloaded for free. You can tell that they haven't listened to it in a long time.
See people, THAT's how you do music marketing in the 21st century. Entire album is streamed full quality, clips & pics & shit galore.

Not to mention, still remains one of the best and most important pop records EVER.
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post #30 of 53
2/5/09 at 4:21pm
Yes, it's great, but let's stop with the hipster chant of 'best Beastie album'; Paul's Boutique was the road they took to the greaterness that is Check Your Head.
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post #31 of 53
2/5/09 at 4:25pm
Yeah, no. Paul is one of the 10 best albums ever, possibly. Check Your Head is their most commercial, this is their best.
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post #32 of 53
2/5/09 at 4:27pm
Most commercial: I'd go with Ill Communication, maybe Hello Nasty.

No question that Paul's is their best, though.
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post #33 of 53
2/5/09 at 4:28pm
Plus, you can kind of lay the entire late 90s 'rap rock' genre at Check Your Head's feet. That'll cost it some points.

For "most commercial," I'd go with License to Ill, if only because it was, well, objectively their most commercially successful album.
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post #34 of 53
2/5/09 at 5:07pm
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Originally Posted by Matt M View Post
Plus, you can kind of lay the entire late 90s 'rap rock' genre at Check Your Head's feet. That'll cost it some points.
That seems kinda unfair, though you may have a point. But CYH was all over the place, much more even then PB. But PB simply blew the doors wide open on what could be done with sampling. It's more than just 'best album by that artist', it simply redefined what you could do with music, period.
I think Beck is more to blame for the raprock genre, based solely on the success of 'Loser'. Although that one may have never happened without the BB... whatever! 90% of any genre's crap, while the remaining 10% defies the genre boundaries.

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Originally Posted by Matt M View Post
For "most commercial," I'd go with License to Ill, if only because it was, well, objectively their most commercially successful album.
Actually, you could be right on that. And it may be just me, but I think they lost their commercial momentum with PB (although it went on to become the most respected of their discography over time), and it started to pick up again with CYH and IllComm. Sabotage & Watcha Want were huge among the hip crowd. But I know quite some casual music listeners about my age who will always think of the BB as 'those 'Fight for your Right' guys.
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post #35 of 53
2/5/09 at 5:10pm
Let me also add: even on the stream, the remaster sounds just *awesome*. They certainly beefed that bass up GOOD.
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post #36 of 53
2/5/09 at 5:16pm
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Originally Posted by Matt M View Post
For "most commercial," I'd go with License to Ill, if only because it was, well, objectively their most commercially successful album.
But that success was a fluke based on one song. It just happened to hit at exactly the right time. (And think of how it would have fared if the 'Don't Be A Faggot' title had been used.)

Ill Communication is the first record that feels more calculated; it wants to be a hit, and it was. That's why I give it the 'most commercial' tag.
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post #37 of 53
2/5/09 at 5:36pm
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But that success was a fluke based on one song. It just happened to hit at exactly the right time. (And think of how it would have fared if the 'Don't Be A Faggot' title had been used.)

Ill Communication is the first record that feels more calculated; it wants to be a hit, and it was. That's why I give it the 'most commercial' tag.
Well, first of all, I wouldn't underestimate the calculatedness (?) of License. It's full of big Zeppelin riffs and dumb party boy lyrics. And it can be argued that, at least at first, their whole hip hop aesthetic was a put-on devised by Rubin.

Secondly, while there are certainly some very commercial tracks on Communication, there's also a lot of idiosynchratic filler ("Shambala"?) that License doesn't trade in at all.
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post #38 of 53
2/5/09 at 5:43pm
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Originally Posted by Russ Fischer View Post
Ill Communication is the first record that feels more calculated; it wants to be a hit, and it was. That's why I give it the 'most commercial' tag.
Hm, we could discuss this endlessly I suppose (and we will!), but I don't know about that. If anything, it showed they were more aware of what worked on CYH, it feels like a 'part 2' to that album. Sure it had radio-ready catchphrase raps like 'Root Down' or 'Get It Together', but also long raps set to buddhist chants, and the most spaced-out instrumentals they ever recorded (Futterman's Rule, anyone? Still love that track).
To me, it was Hello Nasty that first disappointed. Rarely listen to that one or 5 Burroughs. The Mix-Up only makes for a nice barbecue soundtrack.
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post #39 of 53
2/5/09 at 5:54pm
Well, License was also pretty much a comedy album, as they've admitted since. A bunch of novelty songs full of jokes and swagger that did better than they ever expected. That went a long way toward PB being dismissed by the general public at the time (as well as Vanilla Ice jokes, which at that time were actually current); who cares if Weird Al is suddenly releasing pop originals? God knows I didn't pay attention til a couple years down the line.

Ill Communication to me seems the most calculatedly commercial only because it's the one album of theirs that sounds the most like its immediate predecessor. Every other album's been such a big change-up from the one just before it, but that one's almost Check Your Head Part Deux, especially coming so quickly compared with the gaps between the other releases. That's not a knock, I love em all. ETA: cheftournel, get out of my brain.

Paul's Boutique, though. Yeah, that's in the Pantheon. Christ I hope it's on my doorstep tonight.
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post #40 of 53
2/7/09 at 2:50am
Bought it through the website. This album sounds fucking awesome. Everything seems mixed perfectly.
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post #41 of 53
2/7/09 at 3:29am
The Beasties don't get enough credit for their rhyme skills on Licensed To Ill. Classic Old School MCing. For about a year there, in school you could debate who was the greatest Rap group-them or RUN D.M.C. It was a Beatles vs Stones thing. (Whodini was the Who) I mean, RUN D.M.C. was obviously the right answer, but you wouldn't embarrass yourself taking the Beasties. (Until the frat boys embraced 'em and ruined it. Part of the reason Paul's bombed--besides being so sonically ahead of the curve-- was because the group had become a tainted joke)
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post #42 of 53
2/7/09 at 4:39am
Website kept giving me an error message. Oh well.
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post #43 of 53
2/9/09 at 8:30pm
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post #44 of 53
2/10/09 at 7:37pm
Picked up the vinyl today and it sounds perfect, better than I've ever heard it (of course I've only ever heard it on a poorly mastered CD).

Does anyone know if the original album came with the fold-out gate sleeve designed to look like the rest of the block? That was a nice touch.

This album was so ahead of its time, it's all kinds of incredible.
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post #45 of 53
2/10/09 at 7:51pm
I'm still amazed with the Beatles' samples they got away with in "Sounds of Science" (My favorite track) I mean AC/DC blocked "Rock Hard".
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post #46 of 53
2/10/09 at 8:06pm
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Originally Posted by Parker View Post
Does anyone know if the original album came with the fold-out gate sleeve designed to look like the rest of the block? That was a nice touch.
It did.
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post #47 of 53
2/10/09 at 8:11pm
That's awesome, thanks.
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post #48 of 53
2/13/09 at 10:27pm
The audio files in Apple Lossless are 1.3GB?! I'm afraid for what Hello Brooklyn is going to do to my windows.
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post #49 of 53
2/18/09 at 12:10am
Did anyone else pick up the vinyl? Is there a download code to download mp3's of the remastered tracks? I've been looking at their website but I can't find anything useful (just ways to buy the album again). I got a coupon that says it comes with a free download but that's pretty much all it says.
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post #50 of 53
2/18/09 at 12:21am
Well, it says 'Immediate album download' so I'm assuming you get an e-mail about how and where to download the digital copy.
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