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post #1 of 67
1/15/09 at 6:36pm
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Everybody survives!
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

Terrorist bird claim responsibility.

If I don't get upgraded I always try to sit by the emergency exit and never think I'm going to have to open the door, guess I'll have to pay more attention in the future ...
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post #2 of 67
1/15/09 at 6:39pm
Damn, that water had to be cold.
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post #3 of 67
1/15/09 at 6:40pm
And for the second plane crash in a row- twitter's there on the scene- http://ad.vu/2hrc
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post #4 of 67
1/15/09 at 6:48pm
Twitter is awesome.
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post #5 of 67
1/15/09 at 6:55pm
Love all the passengers standing on the wing.
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post #6 of 67
1/15/09 at 6:56pm
How does one stand on wind?
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post #7 of 67
1/15/09 at 7:18pm
Thank God everyone was OK.
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post #8 of 67
1/15/09 at 7:22pm
Now that we know everyone is okay, I'm sure their thoughts are turning to, "Um, my luggage?"
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post #9 of 67
1/15/09 at 7:25pm
I'm sure they're just glad they survived the first wave of the inevitable bird onslaught. Hope everyone has their shotguns ready... stay away from the windows.
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post #10 of 67
1/15/09 at 7:57pm
I was led to believe it would be zombies. What the fuck good is a shovel against hordes of angry birds?
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post #11 of 67
1/15/09 at 8:07pm
I suddenly remembered my Charlemagne...
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post #12 of 67
1/15/09 at 8:22pm
EDIT: It appears that Wells was actually interpreting the joy a survivor would feel after experiencing this event- it looks like he probably wasn't actually on the plane. He's been at Sundance the past few days, anyway.

Apparently, Jeffrey Wells, from his Hollywood Elsewhere blog, was on the plane and is now doing fine.

We can look forward to more random, angry liberal rants about fat, Republican Americans and his utmost concern for the "high-thread count" of clothes for years to come. YAY! Seriously though, I usually enjoy his site.
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post #13 of 67
1/15/09 at 8:43pm
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
Now that we know everyone is okay, I'm sure their thoughts are turning to, "Um, my luggage?"
No, their next thought was, "I wonder how much money I can make off this...."
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post #14 of 67
1/15/09 at 10:46pm
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Originally Posted by Doc Happenin View Post
I suddenly remembered my Charlemagne...
Jesus Christ, I almost pissed myself. Thanks Doc.
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post #15 of 67
1/15/09 at 11:05pm
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
Damn, that water had to be cold.
30 degrees, according to one news item I heard on the radio (remember, salt water freezes at a lower temperature). Even if it was just over your ankles while you waited for the boats on the wing, can you imagine how painful that was?

But credit has to be given where it's due. From what I hear, the pilot made a nearly flawless emergency water landing, AFTER both engines had blown & w/ only 3500' of altitude. Not to mention the amazingly fast response of the NYPD, NYFD, and the local ferry services. Good show all around.
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post #16 of 67
1/15/09 at 11:19pm
The White House has announced a "War on Birds" for the next 4 days. The US Air Force immediatly launched an attack outside of Marietta GA, where they napalmed an Ant hill.
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post #17 of 67
1/16/09 at 12:26am
A water ditching is pretty sporty stuff, but the crew took it down into a calm lake at a controlled rate which is exactly what you want. The aircraft did what is was supposed to do, which is to float right at the centerline below the over wing hatches for a set amount of time. The crew and passengers severely lucked out.
Cold water is a nightmare. I've done water survival in arctics conditions and it's terrible.
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post #18 of 67
1/16/09 at 1:36am
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Jesus Christ, I almost pissed myself. Thanks Doc.
Glad I could be of help, Billy.
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post #19 of 67
1/16/09 at 11:50am
Didn't Alfred Hitchock warn us of this?
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post #20 of 67
1/16/09 at 11:56am
Someone call in CHUD's resident Miltary and aviation correspondent Frank in here.
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post #21 of 67
1/16/09 at 2:14pm
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Originally Posted by EdHocken View Post
Someone call in CHUD's resident Miltary and aviation correspondent Frank in here.
At your service, Ed.

Everyone here at work is buzzing about this.

I can't overstate what a superb, impeccable job Captain C.B. Sullenberger did on this one. Today, that guy is every airline pilot's hero.
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post #22 of 67
1/16/09 at 2:28pm
I bet it's gonna be all blowjobs and free drinks for him for a while. Deservedly so.
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post #23 of 67
1/16/09 at 2:32pm
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Hey Frank, how many rafts are typically available in these type of aircraft? Everything went smoothly, but I think I only saw one inflatable raft in the pictures so far. I would think they have a lot more, or maybe they opted not to use them all because they already had the ferries?
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post #24 of 67
1/16/09 at 3:19pm
Sullenberger is one Hot SHit pilot. A gunuine hero.
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post #25 of 67
1/16/09 at 4:04pm
He also looks EXACTLY like John Carpenter.
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post #26 of 67
1/16/09 at 4:20pm
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Hey Frank, how many rafts are typically available in these type of aircraft? Everything went smoothly, but I think I only saw one inflatable raft in the pictures so far. I would think they have a lot more, or maybe they opted not to use them all because they already had the ferries?
A JetBlue buddy just told me that the A320 has four slides that double as rafts and two dedicated rafts.
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post #27 of 67
1/16/09 at 4:45pm
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Originally Posted by stelios View Post
I bet it's gonna be all blowjobs and free drinks for him ...
and lawsuits.

I like how people are saying this is a miracle. It's not like the pilot DID HIS JOB or anything...
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post #28 of 67
1/16/09 at 4:54pm
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Yeah, why should anyone be excited he pulled off an amazingly difficult feat and saved all those people.

Lawsuit???
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post #29 of 67
1/16/09 at 5:09pm
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Originally Posted by Brendan View Post
and lawsuits.

I like how people are saying this is a miracle. It's not like the pilot DID HIS JOB or anything...
It is a miracle. It's the only water landing in commercial flight history where every single passenger survived. But I guess your standards for miracles are a little higher.
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post #30 of 67
1/16/09 at 5:09pm
The airline, sure, but if anyone tries to sue the pilot, I move the IRS audits them back to the Stone Age.
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post #31 of 67
1/16/09 at 5:11pm
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Originally Posted by ElCapitanAmerica View Post
Yeah, why should anyone be excited he pulled off an amazingly difficult feat and saved all those people.

Lawsuit???
You can be excited, I think he did a great job and since it was basically his only choice of action he did an amazing job. But a "miracle"? In the sense that God helped him land the plane? Give me a break.

You really don't think at least ONE of those 155 people will try and sue the airline or him? I'm not saying they will win the case if it even moves forward but give it time... there's possible money to be made here! Need I remind you about the two girls who sued an airline because the girls felt that they were kicked off a plane for "being too sexy"? Someone will find a reason. Lawyers find ways.

I'm sure there'll be book deals as well and the inevitable TV movie.
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post #32 of 67
1/16/09 at 5:16pm
Calling it a miracle would seem to discount the efforts of the flight crew.
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post #33 of 67
1/16/09 at 5:16pm
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Originally Posted by Brendan View Post
You can be excited, I think he did a great job and since it was basically his only choice of action he did an amazing job. But a "miracle"? In the sense that God helped him land the plane? Give me a break.
miracle: "an extremely outstanding or unusual event, thing, or accomplishment"

(Merriam-Webster's)

Which it was.
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post #34 of 67
1/16/09 at 5:16pm
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You can be excited, I think he did a great job and since it was basically his only choice of action he did an amazing job. But a "miracle"? In the sense that God helped him land the plane? Give me a break.
I'm not sure many or even most people mean it in that way, or they wouldn't be crediting the pilot with his skills. C'mon ...
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post #35 of 67
1/16/09 at 5:22pm
There's absolutely no way to sue the pilot for this. The airline you could try, but you wouldn't get anything (like them sexxxy girlz).

Lighten up, Brendan. The guy did his job, but it was an extremely part of the job that 99% of people in his profession will never have to attempt. Kudos are in order.
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post #36 of 67
1/16/09 at 5:25pm
The pilot should give a Baldwin-in-Malice "I am God" speech every time someone calls it a miracle.
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post #37 of 67
1/16/09 at 5:29pm
Sure they'll be lawsuits. It's almost inevitable in such a litigious society where folks aren't properly penalized for frivolous action. I'm a little more interested in what everyone comes away from this with.

The pilot did a great job, insofar as that is exactly why he's in the cockpit. He is supposed to be able to handle misadventures as they arise. His job is to get you safely from point A to point B even in it involves a emergency water landing in C. One assumes that you board any plane under the optimistic assumption that your pilot is fully capable of the same, right?

Ultimately, this is the kind of thing that makes me think of an incident Walter Lord liked to relate. Some time before Titanic was lost, another ship smacked right into an iceberg. Thanks to the position on impact, the ship was severely damaged but managed to limp to port in the US. People lauded the crew and chests were swelled. Lord accurately points out that folks came away from the disaster seeing the strength of ships rather than the danger of icebergs.
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post #38 of 67
1/16/09 at 5:35pm
A birdstrike is a random event that cannot be planned for. The only feasible lawsuit would go after the manufacturers of the engines for producing a product that could not withstand a flock of geese.
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post #39 of 67
1/16/09 at 5:39pm
I'm just glad it wasn't a flock of seagulls, because then...

You know what? No.
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post #40 of 67
1/16/09 at 5:40pm
I doubt anyone will sue. But they can't sue the pilot. The guy was in the course of his employment. Any lawsuit against him goes to the airline.
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post #41 of 67
1/16/09 at 5:41pm
I know, Misfit...I know. I ran far away from the temptation.
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post #42 of 67
1/16/09 at 5:43pm
There may be lawsuits filed. They will be dismissed, because this is a reasonable hazard of the business of airline travel, and there is no inkling of negligence or incompetence on the part of the airline or flight crew.
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post #43 of 67
1/16/09 at 5:59pm
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Originally Posted by Judas Booth View Post
I know, Misfit...I know. I ran far away from the temptation.
and we are all Wishing he hadn't
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post #44 of 67
1/16/09 at 7:20pm
What are the grounds for a possible lawsuit? Losing their laptops? Not equipping the plane with a force-field?
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post #45 of 67
1/16/09 at 7:23pm
Never underestimate the ability of some a-hole lawyer to pull shit like that.
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post #46 of 67
1/16/09 at 7:27pm
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What are the grounds for a possible lawsuit? Losing their laptops? Not equipping the plane with a force-field?
Well, one passenger broke both their legs, so there's that.

Not that I support the idea, but dude's gonna have bills to pay and I'm guessing it's tough to work with two broken legs.
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post #47 of 67
1/16/09 at 7:30pm
The ironic part of the sitiation being the guy works as a leg breaker for the mob. Zing!
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post #48 of 67
1/16/09 at 7:33pm
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Originally Posted by soylentgreen View Post
The pilot did a great job, insofar as that is exactly why he's in the cockpit. He is supposed to be able to handle misadventures as they arise. His job is to get you safely from point A to point B even in it involves a emergency water landing in C. One assumes that you board any plane under the optimistic assumption that your pilot is fully capable of the same, right?
I really don't think you understand the difficulty of what he did and its low chances for success. The last time someone tried to ditch an airplane, it cartwheeled and everyone died.
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post #49 of 67
1/16/09 at 7:33pm
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Originally Posted by Tieman View Post
Well, one passenger broke both their legs, so there's that.

Not that I support the idea, but dude's gonna have bills to pay and I'm guessing it's tough to work with two broken legs.
Isn't that what insurance is for?
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post #50 of 67
1/16/09 at 8:29pm
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Originally Posted by FrankCobretti View Post
I can't overstate what a superb, impeccable job Captain C.B. Sullenberger did on this one. Today, that guy is every airline pilot's hero.
And he's from Danville. East Bay, represent!
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