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post #1 of 31
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So I'm still a PS2 gamer. I've been tempted to get me a 360, but every time my urge is tempered by one look at the huge amount of PS2 back catalogue on my shelf, almost half of which I've not even scratched the surface of. Many of the games still hold up even in the face of the next gen, and nowadays they come dirt cheap too.
A specific sub-set of games that I've enjoyed lately are the smaller scenario-based games (as opposed to, say, sports or puzzle games), that may have been overlooked when they were first released, precisely on account of their short gameplay length or other (probably budget related) productional shortcomings. They may not have been value-for-money when they were released in a full-price range, but at a few euros they can provide a welcome change from a more epic-size game like Okami- just a few hefty play sessions and you're through, a quick bang for the buck so to speak. Moreover, the limited aesthetics or hampered gameplay may be made up for by providing good atmosphere, or simply a clever and engaging take on the genre. I'd say: I'm looking at the B movies of action adventure gaming.

To recap what kind of games I'd like to see discussed here:

-Overlooked or underappreciated on initial release, but should be worth its actual purchase price.
-Gameplay time to complete story: around 10-12 hrs.
-May show its limited budget in production value, but makes up for that in character
-Can be considered 'genre' storytelling, i.e. horror, scifi, martial arts, western.
-Fairly straight storytelling, not too epic (let's say the game story equivalent of a quality tv genre show episode)
-Mechanics may be ripped off or pieced together from bigger & more esteemed productions

Hope this is clear enough for you guys to post some suggestions. Of course, if you have recommendations on other platforms than the PS2, feel free to contribute as well.
I'll start off with two games I recently played and can heartily recommend to be picked up from a bargain bin:

-COLD FEAR: Resident Evil on a boat, in a storm. No big surprises storywise, but the game handles surprisingly well, and the setting is the real winner here: the ship is filled with claustrophobic narrow passages, and shadowy nooks & crannies for the monsters to emerge from. The roll of the waves also has an effect on the handling of both your character and his aim, which makes for some tense and unforgiving gameplay, since most creeps can only be defeated with a headshot. Artwork and voice acting are not too bad either.
-GHOSTHUNTER: Once you get over the forced cocky attitude of the main character, this is actually a charming title with loads of atmoshere, a bit reminiscent of early Supernatural episodes in its Scooby-Doo Americana. It's practically 'Ghostbusters: The Game' before that one came into reality, and without the voice (or comedy) talent of Bill Murray & co. It even rips a few ghost designs from the movie, as well as the basic ghosthunting mechanic with beamthrower & ghost trap. But who cares! There's a nice Southern Gothic feel to some of the levels, and while camera control is a bit clunky, gameplay is sufficiently smooth to guarantee a quick playthrough.
post #2 of 31
Has anyone here played the Constantine PS2 game? It sounds like it might fit into this category, and it's like $4 new at Fry's. I just don't know if it's worth the $4.
post #3 of 31
Constantine is to Devil May Cry what Viking is to God of War. It's slower, and is flat out retarded in spots, but there is enjoyment to be found, especially for $4.
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Constantine is to Devil May Cry what Viking is to God of War. It's slower, and is flat out retarded in spots, but there is enjoyment to be found, especially for $4.
Both Constantine & Viking sound like perfect fit for this thread then. Haven't played either of them.
I must say I'm quite weary of movie tie-ins (since they have a proven reputation of often being crap), but I guess that's where quite some enjoyable games in this category may be hidden. I'm particulary curious if any of the kiddy properties' games (f.e. based on Dreamworks or Pixar movies) are worth picking up? My impression is that most are the same dead-easy platform game overlaid with character & background art of the movie in question.
post #5 of 31
Psi-Ops and The Suffering were two of my favorite B-side games. Both of them have to be circulating the bargain bins by now.
post #6 of 31
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I must say I'm quite weary of movie tie-ins (since they have a proven reputation of often being crap), but I guess that's where quite some enjoyable games in this category may be hidden.
The Warriors, The Thing, and The Punisher all heartily agree with you.

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I'm particulary curious if any of the kiddy properties' games (f.e. based on Dreamworks or Pixar movies) are worth picking up? My impression is that most are the same dead-easy platform game overlaid with character & background art of the movie in question.
Most of them blow, but I was surprised by how hooked I was on the Harry Potter Quidditch game for a while. No idea how well it holds up now, but I'm certain it can't be terribly expensive.
post #7 of 31
'the Thing' is definitely worth picking up, regardless of the price.
post #8 of 31
The Thing? Really? I was watching some review done by Spooney and the guy was losing his shit over the fact you had to fix who knows how many fuse boxes.
post #9 of 31
It's definitely a flawed game and the trust system can get frustrating (I just gave this guy 3 of my first aid kits, and he's fucking infected? Fuck you!), but for the price you can find it at now (less than $5), it's more than worth the frustration.
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the fuses didn't bother me much at all; I had more issues with the whole TRUST situation between your character and his crew. That needed some tweaking.

eta: what Justin said.
post #11 of 31
Fair enough.
post #12 of 31
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The Warriors, The Thing, and The Punisher all heartily agree with you.
Haven't played the Punisher, dabbled in The Thing, but it's definitely on my stack here. The Warriors is so freaking awesome I consider it a strictly A-list title, even now.

And I second the love for The Suffering (any idea if the second one's as good?) and most definitely Psi-Ops. I had a chance to see that recent Jedi game at a friend's house recently, and I was supremely underwhelmed, since Psi-Ops did it much earlier, much better.

Oh, and somebody check out the Rogue Trooper tie-in. It's budget Gears of War, and there's too many gameplay possibilities you never get to use, but it looks good and it's a lot of fun for a quick blast.
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Was the second Matrix game worth a shit?

Enter the Matrix was most mostly awful, but the second one got decent reviews and I remember the discussion are here being semi-positive(despite insane story turns). Path of Neo, I think? Worth it on the cheap?
post #14 of 31
Not at all.

It's buggy and cheap as hell. No one knows how they managed to make a less polished game than Enter the Matrix. There wasn't even any hurry to tie it into a film!

Just watch the most bizarre ending in videogamedom and skip it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSKnFK2G8dw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Sen5...eature=related
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No one knows how they managed to make a less polished game than Enter the Matrix.
I didn't even know it was possible.

Just wanted to share some love for The Punisher game. It's pretty basic and it doesn't have an ounce of depth to it but the blood letting is frequent and well done and it's also got the trademark Ennis humor in spades.
post #16 of 31
Hold on a second, what PS2 game is more than 5-ish bucks?
post #17 of 31
I'm still a PS2 gamer myself, I'm also taking the time to finish all the games I have before I move on to the next gen.

I don't know how popular it was everywhere else, but no one I know has ever heard of Indigo Prophecy/Fahrenheit, although it was one of a few games that kept me engrossed throughout, even though the last third goes out of it's way to ruin everything that's been set up so meticulously.

My girlfriend is just finishing Beyond Good & Evil, an awesome game that fits every part of your specifications. Awesome atmosphere, great voice work, music and a pretty good story.

The Warriors is the best co-op game that I have ever played on a console. The amount of hours a friend and me put into that game just beating the shit out of everyone while high is ridiculous.

I'll be checking out the Punisher based on you guys' recommendations.
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My girlfriend is just finishing Beyond Good & Evil, an awesome game that fits every part of your specifications. Awesome atmosphere, great voice work, music and a pretty good story.
True that, even though I always considered it as an A-level title that just didn't sell for sh**. It's just that good, and funny that you mention it- I also used it to introduce my gf to the wonderful world of ps2 gaming.

I'm really surprised there weren't any worthwhile Pixar or Disney tie-ins on the platform. I remember Disney games from the 16-bit era to be quite to very good (Aladdin, the Mickey Mouse series, even frikkin' Pocahontas was enjoyable). But alas, that was a long time ago.

I regularly encounter a teen survival horror title by the name of 'Obscure' (it also has a sequel), anybody know if that's worth picking up for a dime?
post #19 of 31
I found it clunky and a little unimaginative. Took it back straight away - the co-op is especially poorly implimented. You'd be better off picking up Fatal Frame (Project Zero) instead. Probably going for the same price. The sequel to Obscure may be better, but highly unlikely.
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Hold on a second, what PS2 game is more than 5-ish bucks?
Plenty of them. That system is still alive, you realize.
post #21 of 31
Yeah, PS2's still a very active format. Especially for people who haven't gone HD yet. There be a lot of them.
post #22 of 31
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Originally Posted by Alex Riviello View Post
Not at all.

It's buggy and cheap as hell. No one knows how they managed to make a less polished game than Enter the Matrix. There wasn't even any hurry to tie it into a film!

Just watch the most bizarre ending in videogamedom and skip it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSKnFK2G8dw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Sen5...eature=related
Hahahaha, thanks. Wow.
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Was the second Matrix game worth a shit?

Enter the Matrix was most mostly awful, but the second one got decent reviews and I remember the discussion are here being semi-positive(despite insane story turns). Path of Neo, I think? Worth it on the cheap?
I quite enjoyed some of the never-ending fights against the agents for a while.

It did a better job of making you feel invincible and had some crazy hand-to-hand combat - but the gunplay is beyond awful.

I didn't pay for my copy though, so that may have influenced my experience slightly.

Also, that was the PC version.
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I found it clunky and a little unimaginative. Took it back straight away - the co-op is especially poorly implimented. You'd be better off picking up Fatal Frame (Project Zero) instead. Probably going for the same price. The sequel to Obscure may be better, but highly unlikely.
No need for that, then. The whole trilogy of Project Zero is already on my shelf, but so far I've only played about halfway through the first. It has hands down the most effective scares I've ever seen in any survival horror, and it's supposed to be the least scary of the series... damn.
post #25 of 31
That was the same with me, I picked up Zero at the end of my Xbox's lifespan and only got half way through. It's beautifully made and hardly a lower-class title like we've been listing, but I guess it was forgotten slightly - there's no charm to Obscure to make it a worthy experience.

Never got around to the sequels, which is a shame - but I think i'd rather it not overstay its welcome. The only game I found scarier last gen was Silent Hill 2, another title that's out of place here.

Back to the cheapies though - I enjoyed and finished "The Thing" but the mechanics would drive anyone insane - since certain team members are scripted to die on you no matter what, which makes the cures/tests whatever, redundant. Shooting mechanics were good, but ultimately it'll play like a bag of spanners now.

I found hilarious amounts of value in the original Hunter The Reckoning or whatever it was called. Did the PS2 version get that fantastic 4-player co-op? Those first few levels were great for playing with mates.

Onimusha 3 holds up so well for a last-gen game. Visually amazing, compelling and great combat. Again, not really a "forgotten gem" I guess (very high budget i'd imagine!) - but I picked it up so cheaply and i'd always avoided it - thinking it was just some random japanese fighter. To find it was an action-y Resident Evil with Jean Reno was the most suprising part!
post #26 of 31
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I only found out couple o'weeks ago there was actually an Onimusha reboot after the original trilogy called Dawn Of Dreams... and I've been playing the heck out of that thing since I bought it. Can't believe it passed under my radar when it was released two years ago.
Back on topic, there are actually a couple of smaller ninja/samurai/martial arts titles that come up in bargain bins, that look interesting but I've seen no feedback on.. a couple of titles I can remember are 'The Way of the Samurai' and 'Red Ninja', though there are a couple of others still, with oriental sounding titles I can't remember. Any good buzz on any of those?

There is one that I actually bought and enjoy, called 'The Mark of Kri'. Great Don Bluth inspired graphics, gameplay is a hybrid of pretty intricate sword battle and a primitive but peculiar form of stealth.
post #27 of 31
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I found hilarious amounts of value in the original Hunter The Reckoning or whatever it was called. Did the PS2 version get that fantastic 4-player co-op? Those first few levels were great for playing with mates.
Just did a quick check, apparently it was never released on the PS. But that's okay, like I said- suggestions for other platforms are most welcome. In fact, I'm probably picking up a Gamecube one of these days- they're incredibly cheap, and I want to get up to last-gen level with the Nintendo properties (Mario, Zelda, Metroid) & discover some hidden gems along the way.
post #28 of 31
My Gamecube was for Mario Kart. Then Resident Evil 4 came out for it. I think everything else got avoided really.

Still, didn't pay for the console either. It makes me sound like I steal all my gaming-related stuff.
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Just did a quick check, apparently it was never released on the PS. But that's okay, like I said- suggestions for other platforms are most welcome. In fact, I'm probably picking up a Gamecube one of these days- they're incredibly cheap, and I want to get up to last-gen level with the Nintendo properties (Mario, Zelda, Metroid) & discover some hidden gems along the way.
PM me when you're ready. I have two GCs I've been meaning to get rid of for some time now.
post #30 of 31
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Just did a quick check, apparently it was never released on the PS. But that's okay, like I said- suggestions for other platforms are most welcome. In fact, I'm probably picking up a Gamecube one of these days- they're incredibly cheap, and I want to get up to last-gen level with the Nintendo properties (Mario, Zelda, Metroid) & discover some hidden gems along the way.
Actually, there was a Hunter game on the PS2. This one was called Hunter The Reckoning: Wayward. It's pretty decent, but I never played it all the way through. I still have it and picked it up on the cheap some time ago. I don't think they managed the 4 player co-op, just got the 2 player if I'm not mistaken but this version sort of gets the chance to be it's own game rather than watered down/enhanced port and it even got its own exclusive Wayward class character. Not too shabby. Here's a review: Hunter the Reckoning: Wayward on PS2

eta: I enjoyed the hell out of the Hunter the Reckoning Games on Xbox and the 4 player co-op went a long way to help. the second one, Redeemer, got tons of mileage with and a friend of mine and it was one of those rare games that we even got the ladies in on... we all stayed up nearly all night playing it probably more than once, and I'm not a night owl so there were times where I'd be charging my character headfirst into a wall for minutes on end as I was barely awake.

Also eta: Since Ghosthunter was mentioned I figured I'd throw Primal onto the list here. I've seen it here and there for like 3 bucks. It was the game the team that did Ghosthunter worked on before that one. they also did the MediEvil games on the PS1. They're very capable at getting great graphics out of the hardware. In Primal you play as a Goth chick who's Goth Rocker Boyfriend gets taken by demons or something and you get to hang out with a Gargoyle who you can also control for more puzzle based gameplay when you're not beating things up as the girl... Decent voice acting to boot, and my description may be selling it short.
post #31 of 31
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PM me when you're ready. I have two GCs I've been meaning to get rid of for some time now.
Don't forget, you need to infect someone else with that Clerks 2 HD-DVD. I actually was re-gifted it from someone who was himself given it as a gift. And the original person received it as a freebie from his company. It's like a chain e-mail.
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