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post #1 of 6
1/27/09 at 5:21am
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First off, I've learned some good stuff reading this forum and since I'm finally getting my act together and doing video work, (currently I've been doing shows for my buddies' various bands) but I'm running into a few roadblocks and learning curves.

1st, I've got a copy of Vegas 7 pro I'm using (and since I got it free and I'm a cheapskate when it comes to software...) Plus I use Sony video cameras, I figure it can't hurt...

But. Anyone know any quality tutorials (either free or a book) on the software, I've come up with jack so far. Link away if possible.

2. So, I own a wireless mic (blue tooth one designed for my HDR-SR1) and frankly...I've found its lacking on capturing decent audio quality. Sure if its like dead quiet it picks stuff up great but its easily overwhelmed.

Not a big issue for working on a scene (movie-wise which is coming soon hopefully.) But, it picks up way too much interference and sound issues even with a wind-screen.

So, know any good mic's to use, good techniques in working on sound in post, or just shooting technique that will help me out in getting better sound?

(besides mic'ing the audio at shows directly to a PA which I'll be doing next time anyways since I know we'll have one to work with for sure. yay respectable venues!)

So, those are the first two big ones I'd love help on. Feel free to chime in with any advice, related or not and hey, this could be a good thread for all rookies who are too poor to afford film school. haha
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post #2 of 6
1/27/09 at 9:55am
Unfortunately, for a consumer camera you wont have many options. Certainly capturing from the PA is a step in the right direction, plus you'd probably want to capture the ambient sound as well - but since you probably only have one input, it's not ideal.

The mic you're working with isn't designed for that kind of audio - it's for home movies.

Important to realise that what sounds amazing live, because of the atmosphere, sound bouncing off the walls etc - will almost certainly sound awful on-camera purely because live sound requires decent gear to do it justice.

My advice to you would be to check if the venue makes a recording of the event and take a copy of that. Most venues do, and you can overlay it on the timeline and it'll be the best sound you can get for free. Certainly better than your wireless mic.

I'm afraid I don't work with Vegas, but i'd imagine your local library might have something?
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post #3 of 6
1/27/09 at 4:25pm
I'm still using Vegas 5, but youtube is your friend. When I'm stumped and the Help isn't clear enough, I go there. I'm almost 90% self-taught though, from practice and experimentation.

I also tend to record ADR and dub all my sound so far, so I can't really help you there.
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post #4 of 6
1/28/09 at 8:04pm
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hmmm I shall have to start checking and embracing youtube then. Thanks.

And yeah, the last venue the bands played out...ugh, decent place horrific management.

But yeah, I kinda figured that mic would only be so good...just didn't realize it'd be so bad, haha.
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post #5 of 6
1/30/09 at 4:20pm
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Originally Posted by Marc Wrz View Post
hmmm I shall have to start checking and embracing youtube then. Thanks.
There IS garbage to wade through, but I just use it for a tip when I get stumped on a specific how-to.
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post #6 of 6
2/5/09 at 1:14am
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oh trust me, the garbage is why I usually don't bother with the site. But also, found a guy I know who's done plenty of work with Vegas so he's gonna teach me the fine arts of it.

And I shall pay him in beer. its a good trade-off. haha
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