Palin 2012

Just great. The human Babelfish translator is going to run again. She's going to get torn up in the primaries so no worries. If she manages to squeak through, we're looking at an Obama win like this map

Palin is basically Goldwater 2.0. I welcome her nomination.

What? Innovation = Conservative? Huh. Somebody teach her simple math.

oh, I doubt that. Idaho, Wyoming, Utah, Texas, Oklahoma, Nebraska (except Omaha), Kansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Kentucky, Tennessee, and South Carolina would go Republican even if the nominee were an adorable puppy with only three legs.

I hope she does run. I hate myself for this, but I think she's very attractive and I'd like to see her in the news more.

That being said, I'd hide under the bed if she was ever elected.

I fully support...Sarah Palin for President Of The USA...in 2012. As a Conservative, and not just a weak kneed, liberalesque Republican, Sarah (Plain And Tall) is the go getter our country needs. Also, after seeing the proposed Bailout President Obama is pushing, mainly for inconsequential liberal causes...Atv trails, contraceptives, Honey Bee farms...(Are you kidding me!?!) etc, and that only 27% will be used in 2009...This bill is a disaster with a capital D. How many more tax cheats will emerge in the Obama Cabinet? Tom Daschle is out, Killeher is out, Geithner is in (but should be watched carefully...blaming his tax troubles on his inability to use...Turbo Tax? TG is now head of both the treasury as well as the IRS, and he claims to not even know he had to pay his taxes? Finally while not in Obama's Cabinet...Charles Rangel (head of the Ways and Means committee...He writes the Tax Code...didn't pay his taxes either. Sarah Palin and her future Vp will most likely propose the Tax Cuts that the Democrats refuse to accept, as being beneficial to out society as a whole.

I was wondering why I threw up blood this morning.

I still don't get this. She looks like a post-op. With dead, evil eyes and a square head. Also, anyone with an Internet connection is one google image search away from tens of thousands of pictures of women who actually are attractive.

Finally convinced fleed is real. Holy shit.

All that aside, I can't wait for her to raise and spend tons of money only to drop out after the first primary. Also, John Stewart and The Daily Show should be amazing.

If by some fluke she actually secures the nomination, as other people have said, it'll be an electoral landslide for Obama. Either way, we win.

PLEASE NOMINATE POST-OP PALIN.

And I love your avatar, Eyeball.

I know it's a tired phrase, but if that happens, the terrorists have won.

Ohhhh. Was that you two guys?

Now your love for GI Joe makes sense. You miss Reagan's America, don't you?

She is attractive, specially for her age. She's not a serious option for VP or president of the United States of course.

Wow. You really don't know anything, do you? To support Sarah Palin is to announce that you have a critically superficial and distorted view of politics.

The guy is our popcorn movie maven. I wouldn't expect any more out of him politically, frankly. I think that he represents the GOP as a whole, a bunch of bluster and pomp, but little substance.

He's a nice enough guy though. Very enthusiastic about the properties he loves.

So when do the start throwing dirt over the corpse of the GOP?

First off, I do not support Palin. I personally think that she is the exact opposite of what our country needs.

But to make a blanket statement like you just made is extremely arrogant and dismissive. You are saying that YOU'RE right and everyone else is full of shit. You're saying that you have no respect for someone who disagrees with you politically, regardless of their reasons.

Well played, sir.

And no, it wasn't me, and I hate the fact my attraction to brunettes in glasses lumps me in with those nimrods. I've been fighting this since September, but I'm finally okay with my neurotic attraction to this evil woman.

This "blanket" statement is aimed at exactly the portion of the population I want to target: supporters of Sarah Palin. Yes, I am dismissive of them because they support a candidate who is both woefully ill-equipped to handle national politics and rather unintelligent. This fact combined with the way in which she and her supporters appeal to the most base, jingoist, uninformed features of American life make them worthy of dismissal. Don't waste time battling wits with an unarmed person.

No, I do not have respect for them, but there are plenty of reasons why.

Try again.

Isn't one of her kids named Tard?

That happens to all of us, brother.

She was always my favorite on V...and I had a poster of her on my wall.

I'm detecting an pattern and it's making me uncomfortable.

No, the waterheaded one's named Splat.

C.Swicegood, You're right...I do miss Ronald Reagan.

I fuckin' knew it!

What, exactly, is it that you miss? The massive deficits, the 'Armageddon' talk, the rampant greed on Wall Street, the awful hair metal? Do you conflate your love of 80's cartoon awesomeness with the Gipper somehow?

The appeal, quite frankly, baffles me. He called out Russia as an 'Evil Empire,' fine. Commies are evil, thanks, professor.

Surely you're not so poorly informed as to actually give him credit for bringing down communism? Because then I would have some major contentions.

I don't think Reagan was evil, or even necessarily a baaad dude, but I just don't get where his cachet of 'greatness' comes from. He started the Republican trends of de-regulating and running massive deficits, which has led directly to this massive hole we're in today. I honestly don't get it.

Zhukov, Forget about Major Contentions...You are going to have Contentions worthy of a...General...as people should give Reagan the credit he is due for bringing down the...Evil Empire, known as the...Soviet Union. You are definitely wrong about Reagan being a Baad Dude as there was an arcade game called...Bad Dudes vs Dragon Ninja by Data East where a pair of...Bad Dudes have to rescue President Ronald Reagan from EEEEEEvil Ninja.

Plus, he said "well" alot.

And then they go for some burgers. I know what's up.

Reagan didn't bring down the Evil Empire. In order of relevance: Soviet economic inefficiency(self-inflicted); collapsed oil prices (contributing to the first issue); Gorbachevs glasnost policies; Polish independence movement, with John Paul II catalyzing that movement; Eastern European bravery in following that call to freedom (articulated by resident intellectuals, John Paul, and the Polish shadow government); and THEN we might throw in Reagan and U.S. economic policy to the Reds (primarily Star Wars and the Space Program, which sapped their already depleted economy).

So sure, he gets some credit. But I take offense to granting him the title of Grand Exalted Vanquisher of Communism when it was by and large the bravery, blood, sweat and tears of oppressed European populations who took the 'Evil Empire' out (with a nice assist from a failed directed economic policy, no doubt).

Zhukov, you are attempting to argue politics with Duke Fleed. Think about that for a second.

Perhaps for an encore you'd like to pick a fight with the sea.

Why not just purchase "Nailin Palin" instead?

I'd throw in MTV and blue jeans as well. I'm sure you could lump this in with Soviet economic inefficiency but the amount of GDP dedicated to their military doomed them. America wasn't that different (I still maintain that Chomsky's view of State Capitalism is spot on) but we had a thriving consumer economy that catered to the whims of the people. I suppose the Politboro figured that Vodka was enough.

I'd also like to point out the "Evil Empire" is not a Communist creation. The Russians, ever so often, just swap out one political system for another. They're an empire loving, xenophobic people at their core. The Kiev's, The Tsar's, the Imperials, the Soviets and now whatever you want to call Putin's (and it's still Putin's baby) Russian Federation.


The only thing Reagan did was re-instill fear of the "boogeyman" of global communist domination. The Soviets were bankrupt, their ships were rotting at port and those "tank armies" were wooden mockups. All Reagan wanted was a status quo continuation of the Cold War in my opinion. A war that neither side wanted to fight by the 80's. It's much easier to do it by proxy anyway and score points without having to sacrifice political capital back home.

Proxy conflict eventually demands being counted in the political capitol, if the conflict drags on long enough. Vietnam exerted an impact (primarily on Nixon, who didn't start the war, but didn't finish it either . . . worth noting); Desert Storm had minimal impact (USA=awesome, but economy=what matters); Bosnia can be considered a subjective success (Clinton's primary conflict means Wag the Dog, or One Lost Plane [American survives], either way it was a tactical and strategic success and Clinton's image was boosted to the extent it could withstand the Lewinsky scandal); Shock & Awe is borderline (failure at first, Bush still got re-elected, Democratic Iraq still in the balance).

That is a champion level sentence, but the points do get added in, whether or not the proletariat on the ground recognizes it at first.

Afghanistan is the test for Obama. Someone re-assure me that this can end well.

I'm not arguing with him. I am asking a fair, legitimate question. I've posed similar question to him before, and he has always taken them into account, without an overtly partisan response. He has respected what I ask him, so I respect him in kind. I consider that to be a valuable discussion, in relative degrees to all this taking place on the internet.

EDIT: GI Joe looks silly. Snaps!

I see what you're saying but I was more talking about those conflicts that involved no "overt" American support in terms of lives. Money and guns funneled through 3rd parties and CIA advisors don't get the American people wound up but they can watch the retreating Red Army and go "Fuck yeah!" Nothing was risked in the long run. Body bags and coffin draped flags, on the other hand, put things in much closer perspective especially when the goals and terms of victory are ill defined.

As to Afghanistan and Obama...I have no hopes on that. That mess was created the day the Red Army left and we said "fuck it. We won" and didn't care. If anything it's a worse mess than Iraq.

Reading one of your posts is like tapping into the subconscious of someone with a really bad case of ADHD.

Master Shake, ADD would be...Attention Deficeit Disorder, What is ADHD? Could it be...Attention Deficeit in High Definition?

Yes, duke fleed. Yes it can be that. Because that's awesome.

Fleed and Sarah sitting in a tree, k-i-s-s-i-n-g (with Reagan watching behind a bush).

Seriously, if the GOP decides to put that dingbat upfront they can kiss the presidency good bye for at least three terms.

Stelios, What kind of Bush is Reagan hiding behind...George Bush 41, or 21st Century George Bush The unispired, yet decent sequel? as He made sure we were protected after 9/11, and he was a good person.

Any kind that can hide a masturbating zombie.

And he kept the bears away.

I fully support fleed being the Republican's main campaign adviser for the next election.

Clarence Boddicker, Thank You for the support.

it was because of Reagan that my father left the Republican party.

Sarah Palin is definitely keeping everyone safe from wolf attacks ... that's for sure. Nothing stops those savage bastards cold like aerial attack overkill.