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Originally Posted by Joe LeFors View Post
I completely agree that "cocksucker" doesn't always, or even usually, have a homophobic connotation.

But you guys have been talking about the importance of context (which I agree is important), so let's look at the context of the term's use in that video: Devin was absolutely challenging Billington's masculinity, and trying to make him look like a pussy (or, if you prefer, a "bitch"). Talking about how he's never been laid, how he should get AIDS, how he engages in "faggotry." Saying that "cocksucker" is stripped of sexual connotations in this argument strikes me as fairly disingenuous.
Even more interesting (in context), since it seems that Devin believes that Billington is beneath him and with his various insinuations that Billington is gay, one wonders if Devin thinks that gay people are beneath him too?

My two cents (for what it's worth) as a gay man. The words themselves do not offend me in the slightest. Hell, I'm proud to be a cocksucker (literal), a faggot and someone that engages in faggotry (if you haven't tried, you don't know what you are missing. HIGHLY RECOMMEND!). It only bothers me when the words are used to disparage. I realize that we currently have a use for words to insult, belittle and disparage others but it's frustrating that words that normally have a pleasant connotation (for me) are being used negatively. Such is life.

Really though, my whole point in coming into this thread was to comment on how Devin's passionate defense of those words (and others) reminded me of the passionate defense (by some Georgian citizens) to use a Confederate Battle Flag as the State Flag. Bravo sir, bravo.
post #102 of 104
The only time I would defend the Confederate flag is the right for it to be displayed on the General Lee.
post #103 of 104
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Originally Posted by HBarr View Post
The words themselves do not offend me in the slightest. Hell, I'm proud to be a cocksucker (literal), a faggot and someone that engages in faggotry (if you haven't tried, you don't know what you are missing. HIGHLY RECOMMEND!). It only bothers me when the words are used to disparage. I realize that we currently have a use for words to insult, belittle and disparage others but it's frustrating that words that normally have a pleasant connotation (for me) are being used negatively. Such is life.
Somebody could call you a cocksucker and it has new meaning for being an insult. It isn't that you enjoy that. It's that cocksucker has lots of other intonations. Like kissing up to people. Because the one pissed at you isn't confused and actually giving a compliment. It's like being called a smartass. You could then say you're proud of your perceived cleverness. But that's missing the point. You return the insult by dishing out your own vitriol. Because they aren't trying to do you a favor. What a major misunderstanding of language we have here.
post #104 of 104
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Originally Posted by dreary louse View Post
What a major misunderstanding of language we have here.
Ironic.
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