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Has anyone picked up Jaws 2: The Making of the Hollywood Sequel?

 

 

I mean, I'm buying it regardless, but I was just curious.

It's on my shelf, but I haven't gotten around to it.  If it's even half as revealing as THE JAWS LOG (pretty much the greatest making-of book ever), it will be quite illuminating.  I should get started on it.

 

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It's not that rare of a phenomenon.  In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if it was about 50/50 or maybe even slightly skewed in favor of the film versions.  

 

"Jaws" the novel is a bit of a rough read.  Mafia dealings (they loaned money to the mayor, and they don't want to be paid back, they want cooperation in real estate shenanigans), random drug references, a dead dolphin fetus used as shark bait (who thought that was a good idea?), etc. 

Where the novel's true problem lies is in its characters.  They're all either outright unlikable assholes (Quint, Hooper, Mayor Vaughn, Mrs. Brody) or ineffectual (Brody).  The most valuable thing that Howard Sackler, Carl Gottlieb, John Milius, and whoever else gave notes on the thing did was to make these characters people you wanted to spend time with.  Since we couldn't spend time with the shark (for various reasons), it was imperative that the audience invest in the characters.  Removing the Hooper/Mrs. Brody affair, for example, did incalculable good for the story and for the characters.

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I like Scheider's performance, even if he didn't want to give it

 

Chief Brody is particularly surly in JAWS 2.  I love when the well-meaning photographer is explaining some technical details about one of the pictures and Brody snaps "Don't jerk me around, what else ya got?"

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Chief Brody is particularly surly in JAWS 2.  I love when the well-meaning photographer is explaining some technical details about one of the pictures and Brody snaps "Don't jerk me around, what else ya got?"

 

"But I'm telling you, and I'm telling everybody at this table that that's a shark! And I know what a shark looks like, because I've seen one up close. And you'd better do something about this one, because I don't intend to go through that hell again!"

 

*proceeds to go through that hell again*

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Chief Brody is particularly surly in JAWS 2.  I love when the well-meaning photographer is explaining some technical details about one of the pictures and Brody snaps "Don't jerk me around, what else ya got?"

 

He really goes off the deep end. 

 

I love it when he comes home drunk, but he's not an angry drunk, he's a soft spoken, loveable one. I mean, we sort of got that in Jaws 1, but it's much more refined here. 

 

Hilarious when he sees that "what could be an eye" and goes, "That's it, that's the one!" The photographer has no clue what he's talking about.

 

I'm of the opinion Jaws 2 would be a stronger movie without the action scenes at the beginning, cutting around all the shark bits to make it seem like maybe Brody is cracking. And then the shark shows up at the diver scene for the first time, before heading out to snack on the kiddos. 

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Oh, and apparently the character of Bob (the kid with the hat) was suppose to get eaten, but they had to reduce the body count to secure a PG rating.

 

 

Hilariously, this production still for a deleted scene is what Amazon Video uses to represent the film:

 

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Oh, and apparently the character of Bob (the kid with the hat) was suppose to get eaten, but they had to reduce the body count to secure a PG rating.

 

 

Hilariously, this production still for a deleted scene is what Amazon Video uses to represent the film:

 

 

Did Bob just disappear from the rest of the film or what?

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They filmed a shot of him safely on cable junction, but he's absent from the wide angles.

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So I got that new JAWS 2 book.  The book is strange in that it's riddled with grammatical problems and is weirdly structured and often redundant in the way it conveys information, like there was no editor involved, however the anecdotes themselves are fantastic and it's chock full of rare photos.  Lots of interesting minutia I didn't know before.  Definitely recommended for any fan of JAWS 2.

 

One thing I didn't realize, for example, is that Howard Sackler actually wrote the first version of the "Amity is a ghost town" storyline.  I had thought he left the project after his USS Indianapolis concept was rejected and Hancock and his wife started over from scratch, but they were actually revising something that Sackler had already laid the foundation for.  This makes the fact the Universal pulled the plug on the project over issues of tone even more interesting, because they had explicitly approved that direction by approving the script.  Then again, buyer's remorse from a movie studio is not really that uncommon, as Paul Schrader learned with his Exorcist prequel.  It's also worth noting that Hancock's version of the story is that he was fired for being the scapegoat of some petty fight between executives over how proactive Lorraine Gary should be in the film's climax.

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