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post #851 of 877
1/14/10 at 7:43pm
Mangy, you guys should fire the AD and try and get a new AD/Coach package deal of some kind. That measly $800k buyout was obviously a joke and coupled with the way he hid when Kiffin went all secondary violation crazy just reinforces his inability to lead.

As for UT, they need to stop looking at HCs and try and find a great OC or DC to take charge. There has to be a lot of quality coordinators just itching to take over an SEC program, regardless of how utterly horrible their color scheme is. Other than coordinators if I was UT I would be putting a full court press on Lovie Smith. Or pay Kirby Smart 1.5 million a year and he'd come over no problem. Got nothing to lose there.
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post #852 of 877
1/14/10 at 7:50pm
Alumni apparently inquired with Fulmer about taking the AD position. I personally think Pat Head Summitt would make a fine AD. She cares about the university, and she's tougher than most football coaches.
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post #853 of 877
1/14/10 at 7:50pm
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Originally Posted by Mangy View Post
I'm pretty sure there are several posts above acknowledging this fact.


Thanks, Bancroft, but UT fans fully understand that this situation is a mess. Honest.
A lot of the stuff I'm saying is rhetorical. I'm pretty well aware of the situation and feelings of UT right now. I've been texting back and forth with a former UT player from the early 80's giving him shit in fact.

If the Football Gods have an sense of humor or irony I'd love to see this:

"Ladies and gentleman, I'd like to take this time to now introduce you to the the new head coach of the University of Tennessee Volunteers...Randy Sanders"
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post #854 of 877
1/14/10 at 7:52pm
I'd rather be coachless.
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post #855 of 877
1/14/10 at 7:53pm
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Originally Posted by Bancroft Agee View Post
"Ladies and gentleman, I'd like to take this time to now introduce you to the the new head coach of the University of Tennessee Volunteers...Randy Sanders"
HA, I heard that actually floated as a possibility. It's been too long since our entire offense consisted of lateral screens.
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post #856 of 877
1/14/10 at 7:55pm
Keeping Randy Sanders around as long as he did is the primary reason Phil Fulmer doesn't have a job today.
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post #857 of 877
1/14/10 at 8:06pm
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Originally Posted by Matt M View Post
Keeping Randy Sanders around as long as he did is the primary reason Phil Fulmer doesn't have a job today.
I've heard an entirely different side of that story/relationship but I'll cop to being biased since my opinion of Fulmer was already really, really fucking low.

I can't complain about Sanders. He's been pretty damn good for us and his development of Woodson from a scared kid with a horrid work ethic who shit his pants at the first sign of pressure to a QB that broke Danny Wuerffel's single season passing touchdown record was impressive. He made Mike Hartline serviceable. That's up there with water into wine in my book.
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post #858 of 877
1/14/10 at 9:44pm
I don't doubt his abilities as a QB coach. But I wouldn't let him call plays for a Pee Wee squad.
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post #859 of 877
1/14/10 at 10:22pm
Thread Starter 
Mandel's take from SI:

"If Tennessee gets turned down by the coaches of both Air Force and Duke on the same day, they should have to leave the SEC for a year."
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post #860 of 877
1/15/10 at 1:15pm
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Originally Posted by Martianman View Post
Mandel's take from SI:

"If Tennessee gets turned down by the coaches of both Air Force and Duke on the same day, they should have to leave the SEC for a year."
Well, Cutcliffe at least waited until the following day, so it's not that bad.

Who wants this job?
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post #861 of 877
1/15/10 at 1:49pm
Is it just me or is this thing feeding itself, allowing perception to become reality?

The reality is a young, unproven opportunist leaves a good job for a top three job because the top three school is desperate to make a splash after having their image take a hit when their coach leaves.

So the first snub begets the second snub, and because UT is not a top three job, and the events happened somewhat late relative to other hirings and firings this offseason, it is having trouble finding a big name to fill in the void, and now the perception is becoming nobody wants the job... even though this all happened 2-3 days ago. it's ridiculous. Tennessee should just say "our coach left us high and dry, and rather than rushing into something we're going to find the best coach available, whether he is a big name or not." Yeah, I understand they're scrambling for recruiting reasons, but I have to think rushing into the wrong coach and making yourself look desperate in the process is going to have many more negative ramifications.
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post #862 of 877
1/15/10 at 4:01pm
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Originally Posted by Bailey View Post
Is it just me or is this thing feeding itself, allowing perception to become reality?

The reality is a young, unproven opportunist leaves a good job for a top three job because the top three school is desperate to make a splash after having their image take a hit when their coach leaves.

So the first snub begets the second snub, and because UT is not a top three job, and the events happened somewhat late relative to other hirings and firings this offseason, it is having trouble finding a big name to fill in the void, and now the perception is becoming nobody wants the job... even though this all happened 2-3 days ago. it's ridiculous. Tennessee should just say "our coach left us high and dry, and rather than rushing into something we're going to find the best coach available, whether he is a big name or not." Yeah, I understand they're scrambling for recruiting reasons, but I have to think rushing into the wrong coach and making yourself look desperate in the process is going to have many more negative ramifications.

Pete Carroll and Kiffin were both the 4th or 5th choices of USC during those hiring processes.

I still think one of the main reasons people have turned down the UT job is because it's a mess right now. Potential NCAA violations in the air, a roster that's in flux, turmoil in the entire Athletic Department, recruiting is basically shot now for this year (and maybe next at this rate) and the SEC East itself isn't a cakewalk to boot.
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post #863 of 877
1/15/10 at 4:08pm
Dooley to coach UT? No, not that Dooley ...
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post #864 of 877
1/15/10 at 4:49pm
Congrats on UT hiring their version of Mike Shula.

Cutcliffe would have been a better choice than a guy with a losing record in the WAC. I give Dooley 4 years and he's out.
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post #865 of 877
1/15/10 at 4:53pm
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Originally Posted by tcjsavannah View Post
17-20 in the WAC? Yeah, that's gonna calm some nerves.
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post #866 of 877
1/15/10 at 5:50pm
If it's Dooley, I'd think Hamilton's tenure as AD is pretty much over.
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post #867 of 877
1/15/10 at 5:50pm
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Originally Posted by Bancroft Agee View Post
Pete Carroll and Kiffin were both the 4th or 5th choices of USC during those hiring processes.
I'm not sure if that was a counter point, because I don't really think it changes anything I said.


Dooley? I live pretty close to La. Tech, and I don't know a thing about the guy. I was guessing Malzahn.
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post #868 of 877
1/15/10 at 6:02pm
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I'm not sure if that was a counter point, because I don't really think it changes anything I said.

What I was pointing out is that just because it's a "Top Job" doesn't mean the hiring process is easy. There are always mitigating factors involved even with these premiere jobs. USC was in the dumps after Hackett and getting turned down left and right before Pete Carroll. 'Bama had resorted to so many "reaches" since Stallings and got so desperate that they threw an ungodly amount of money Saban's way that any sane person wouldn't turn down. I don't think it has anything to do with "perception" due to people turning it down. The UT football program and the Athletic Department are such a mess right now nobody wants to risk their career. It's just a hard job to fill.
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post #869 of 877
1/15/10 at 6:18pm
All the more reason to take your time. It seems like the perception is if you don't have somebody accept the position in less than a few days the job takes on an undesirable quality nowadays.

Listening to the radio in the last few minutes, people down here aren't terribly happy. They're calling Dooley the Southern Kiffin: famous dad, hasn't done much on his own, etc.
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post #870 of 877
1/15/10 at 8:41pm
I picture Hamilton in his office this morning, wondering: "Kippy or Dooley? Dooley or Kippy?"

I drove to East TN today to see family, and heard the Knoxville sports station when they announced that Dooley had been hired. The reporter, Jimmy Hyams, describing the hire:

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He's a great interview, uh . . . and he's a good-lookin' guy . . .
That's what you want in your football coach - good looks. Hamilton just loves those dashing smooth-talkers!

They also called a sports talk host in Ruston, LA. He said that Dooley's main weakness is with "X's and O's." How comforting. If Dooley has a rough first season, Hamilton's gone at the very least.

Nobody's thrilled with the hire, but at least I no longer have to hear speculation about Gruden, Dungy and Lovie Smith, which always struck me as kinda ludicrous.
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post #871 of 877
1/15/10 at 9:43pm
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Bailey View Post
Dooley? I live pretty close to La. Tech, and I don't know a thing about the guy. I was guessing Malzahn.
My neighbor went to La. Tech, and he's really bummed that Dooley is gone.
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post #872 of 877
1/15/10 at 10:04pm
Dooley is a hell of a recruiter. Put together Saben's #1 recruiting classes at LSU(two of them I think).

Read at a couple of places that the 4-8 team he put together was destroyed by injuries. Played LSU and Boise down to the wire.

We'll see how it plays out, it's a really shitty time of the year to be coach hunting.

Mangy, Jimmy Heim called that hire this morning on the Wake Up Zone.
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post #873 of 877
1/16/10 at 12:57pm
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Originally Posted by jl1718 View Post
Dooley is a hell of a recruiter. Put together Saben's #1 recruiting classes at LSU(two of them I think).

Read at a couple of places that the 4-8 team he put together was destroyed by injuries. Played LSU and Boise down to the wire.

We'll see how it plays out, it's a really shitty time of the year to be coach hunting.

Mangy, Jimmy Heim called that hire this morning on the Wake Up Zone.
A guy on Mad Dog radio this morning was saying how a 17-20 (or whatever Dooley's record was) record at La.Tech shouldn't get you the job at Tennessee. He made some good points, but as you pointed out, he's got some good qualities. Plus this whole situation is all kinds of messed up, so I'm sure UT is just glad to have a coach, period. They need to get through these tough times, get their feet set, and then they can worry about finding a new coach (if necessary).
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post #874 of 877
1/16/10 at 1:03pm
I think Dooley will have a pretty lenient year from UT fans. considering the situation that led to his hiring.

The guy I quoted above was right: He certainly won the press conference. I think everyone that saw it left with the impression of, "Well, at least he's not a douche."
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post #875 of 877
1/28/10 at 11:38am
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According to a memo from the school, Craig James threatened to sue Texas Tech if they didn't start an investigation of Mike Leach. When all the facts finally come out about this whole debacle, I have a feeling no one is going to look good.
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post #876 of 877
1/28/10 at 5:39pm
The ESPN ombudsman was pretty critical of ESPN's coverage, at least on the day of the Alamo Bowl.
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post #877 of 877
2/3/10 at 11:39am
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National Signing Day today. The amateur version of the NFL draft, basically. Let's see who can attract the most 5 star athletes, then spend the next few years keeping them out of jail.
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