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Rejoice! Limp Bizkit are back!

post #1 of 71
2/13/09 at 9:37am
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Like a retarded cat with anger issues I keep bringing back to you all kinds of foul smelling carcasses.

So it appears that Limp Bizkit are re-united. For those of you not wanting to click on the link, here is a piece from the press-release:

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"We decided we were more disgusted and bored with the state of heavy popular music than we were with each other. Regardless of where our separate paths have taken us, we recognize there is a powerful and unique energy with this particular group of people we have not found anywhere else. This is why Limp Bizkit is back."
You're welcome.
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post #2 of 71
2/13/09 at 10:25am
Next Wes Borland split coming up in 3... 2...
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post #3 of 71
2/13/09 at 11:33am
Fuck you.
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post #4 of 71
2/13/09 at 11:50am
If music has a physical body, today, it's having a herpes outbreak.
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post #5 of 71
2/13/09 at 11:56am
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"We decided we were more broke than other heavy popular musicians. Regardless of where our next check comes from, we recognize there is a powerful and unique need to pay our bills which we have not found the ability to do anywhere else. This is why Limp Bizkit is back."
Fixed.
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post #6 of 71
2/13/09 at 11:58am
Crap. This means I have to go open a bunch of seals and sound a trumpet today.
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post #7 of 71
2/13/09 at 12:08pm
Didn't care then. Not going to care now.
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post #8 of 71
2/13/09 at 3:48pm
Does this mean we will get another Fred & Aguilera duet? For the nookie, you know. Anyone?
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post #9 of 71
2/13/09 at 4:28pm
I think Fred should do some more The Who covers. That'd be awesome.
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post #10 of 71
2/13/09 at 4:30pm
As I look back at these ten years. I can't figure which was sillier: Nu-Metal or the whole emo/pop-punk* thing.


*Yes, I'm aware they are two different genres but they've been pretty concurrent these past few years. So don't give me shit about it.
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post #11 of 71
2/13/09 at 4:35pm
I tend to agree with Henry Rollins' take on Limp Bizkit. He said that, if he were 17, they'd be one of his favorite groups because they're all about massive build-up and massive pay-off. Yeah, Durst is a d-bag, but musically, for they did, they weren't terrible.
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post #12 of 71
2/13/09 at 4:37pm
Yes they were.
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post #13 of 71
2/13/09 at 4:39pm
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Originally Posted by Devildoubt View Post
they weren't terrible.
Yeah they were.

ETA: Too slow. And I couldn't be bothered to include a link. A day late and a dollar bill short, y'all.
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post #14 of 71
2/13/09 at 4:40pm
I don't know, it's heavy and danceable.

Again, they're not the best thing ever, but they're not so terrible that I think the massive hate is justifiable.

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I'd like to add that my defense of Limp Bizkit is restricted to the Wes Borland era(s). I think he's a very good guitar player and an engaging performer. In other words, no I will not defend their cover of Behind Blue Eyes.
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post #15 of 71
2/13/09 at 4:47pm
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Originally Posted by Patrick Ripoll View Post
God, that was one of the most popular and most played songs in my high school. It's all coming back to me. Such pain.
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post #16 of 71
2/13/09 at 4:56pm
Heavy and Danceable

Heavy and Danceable

Hell, I'll even defend this as heavy and danceable.

Irredeemable.
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post #17 of 71
2/13/09 at 4:58pm
Hate.
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post #18 of 71
2/13/09 at 4:59pm
All right let's break this down. What is so different between your examples and Limp Bizkit? To me, a lot of it sounds like RATM.
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post #19 of 71
2/13/09 at 5:00pm
How are they going to make room for all of LB's merchandise at Hot Topic? What? Are they going to limit the size of their Twilight and Nightmare Before Christmas items? I don't think so.
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post #20 of 71
2/13/09 at 5:04pm
Has any more awesome band inspired so many horrible knock-offs as Faith No More? Maybe Pearl Jam.

Fuck you, Durst. Now Mike Patton has to go record more orchestral Italian pop songs and experimental albums of incomprehensible screeching to cleanse his karma again.
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post #21 of 71
2/13/09 at 5:05pm
When will a genuinely awesome 90's band make a come-back?
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post #22 of 71
2/13/09 at 5:07pm
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Originally Posted by Devildoubt View Post
All right let's break this down. What is so different between your examples and Limp Bizkit? To me, a lot of it sounds like RATM.
His voice is utterly awful, it doesn't have any of Rage Against the Machine's inventive guitar playing, it's much more repetitive and simplistic, the song structures are always dull, there's no real build to the chorus, it just happens.

And that's ignoring the obvious differences in lyrics.
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post #23 of 71
2/13/09 at 5:07pm
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Originally Posted by Incorporeality View Post
When will a genuinely awesome 90's band make a come-back?
youtube is blocked at work, so I'm going to hazard a guess that you're referring to Babylon Zoo in your post.
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post #24 of 71
2/13/09 at 5:18pm
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Originally Posted by Patrick Ripoll View Post
His voice is utterly awful, it doesn't have any of Rage Against the Machine's inventive guitar playing, it's much more repetitive and simplistic, the song structures are always dull, there's no real build to the chorus, it just happens.

And that's ignoring the obvious differences in lyrics.
I disagree. I think there's a fair amount of build-up to the chorus (at least, from what I've heard in songs like Nookie and The Truth). But I will agree that Durst's presence is more than a little annoying, and his lyrics aren't great.

As far the Borland vs. Morello thing, I think that Morello is probably more innovative than Borland, but I'd rather listen to Borland than Morello. I think the two are about dead even on the repetitive thing, but Borland's guitar tones sound better to me than Morello's. Honestly, Morello hasn't done anything all that spectacular since RATM's first album. He's been very consistent with his approaches and riffs.

However, let me clarify that, in the genre, RATM remains the gold standard. De la Rocha sounds better than Durst, has better delivery than Durst, and certain lyrical peccadilloes aside, writes much better lyrics than Durst.

All things being equal, if you like the rap-rock genre, there's nothing so offensive about Limp Bizkit to justify hating them.
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post #25 of 71
2/13/09 at 5:20pm
They aren't as good as POD. That in itself is a miracle of science or something.
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post #26 of 71
2/13/09 at 5:27pm
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Originally Posted by Devildoubt View Post
and certain lyrical peccadilloes aside
Do you have any specific ones in mind? My RATM is a little rusty.
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post #27 of 71
2/13/09 at 5:28pm
Let's get a more interesting debate going. Limp Bizkit vs. ICP. Pretty even I would say.

Even Rage at it's worst is infinitely better than Limp Bizkit simply because they have an honest-to-god POINT to their music. Durst's music is just about being a horny thug.
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post #28 of 71
2/13/09 at 5:33pm
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Originally Posted by Incorporeality View Post
Do you have any specific ones in mind? My RATM is a little rusty.
There's a few clunkers on the first album. Del la Rocha has a good delivery, so even when he's not on top of his game, it still sounds pretty good.
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post #29 of 71
2/13/09 at 5:40pm
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Originally Posted by Doc Happenin View Post
How are they going to make room for all of LB's merchandise at Hot Topic? What? Are they going to limit the size of their Twilight and Nightmare Before Christmas items? I don't think so.
AFI has that real estate covered bitches!
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post #30 of 71
2/13/09 at 5:40pm
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Originally Posted by Steerpike View Post
Let's get a more interesting debate going. Limp Bizkit vs. ICP. Pretty even I would say.
ICP: they have a visible fanbase and are still working/touring, which makes them worse.
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post #31 of 71
2/13/09 at 5:40pm
Gonna have to go with Incorp on this one.
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post #32 of 71
2/13/09 at 5:42pm
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Originally Posted by Steerpike View Post
Let's get a more interesting debate going. Limp Bizkit vs. ICP. Pretty even I would say.

Even Rage at it's worst is infinitely better than Limp Bizkit simply because they have an honest-to-god POINT to their music. Durst's music is just about being a horny thug.
Durst's lyrics are pretty bad, but musically I don't think there's much of a difference.
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post #33 of 71
2/13/09 at 5:49pm
For all RATM's ostentatious irreverence, were they the ones to bring the body-popping Hasidic Jew front and center in this thread? No sir.
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post #34 of 71
2/13/09 at 6:05pm
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Originally Posted by Devildoubt View Post
Durst's lyrics are pretty bad, but musically I don't think there's much of a difference.
I'm sure the rest of the band are competent in their instrumental duties, and I don't know enough about guitar playing to judge wether Borland was some sort of innovator or not. Perhaps he does some amazing things that go completely over my head.

No one actually complains about the rest of the band when they complain about Limp Bizkit. It's Durst. It's all Durst. The others are non-entities. You cannot broach the subject of The Great Limp Bizkit Hatred without discussing the lyrics. I might be able to see your point about the music if I was able to completely seperate the instrumental backing from the retarded lumbering beast it was in service of, but taken as a whole, Limp Bizkit is completely and utterly "irredeemable."
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post #35 of 71
2/13/09 at 6:08pm
Limp Bizkit are the kind of band that's amazing when your 14 and then by the time your 16 they just seem like idiot man-children.
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post #36 of 71
2/13/09 at 6:11pm
Like a Jonas Brothers for boys.
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post #37 of 71
2/13/09 at 6:35pm
Limp Bizkit is the aural equivalent to a trashbag filled with smashed assholes.
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post #38 of 71
2/13/09 at 6:41pm


Just the look in his hollow eyes put a fear in me.
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post #39 of 71
2/13/09 at 6:59pm
To add some small, infinitesmal glimmer of a counterpoint to this discussion....I'll at least say there's a measure of talent and and fire under that band's ass on Three Dollar Bill Y'all that they would never display again.
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post #40 of 71
2/15/09 at 2:15am
Borland is a good guitar player, it's just he keeps on coming back to this band that is cancer personified.
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post #41 of 71
2/15/09 at 9:31am
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Originally Posted by EdHocken View Post
AFI has that real estate covered bitches!
Quite. Shame, The Art of Drowning and much of what came before it was great.

Re: Durst and chums - *shrug*
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post #42 of 71
2/15/09 at 1:17pm
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Originally Posted by Patrick Ripoll View Post
Eh, I'm of the Rollins opinion - it's got an appeal. It delivers ("Rearrange" by Bizkit also isn't half-bad). And to the disaffected middle-class white youth, it gives them license to be angry without really giving them reason.

I wouldn't defend Durst on any level, as he seems to be pretty much a roach. I also have been through this before and I don't know that you can 100% pin this on FNM - maybe these guys did grow up liking "Epic", maybe they didn't; I think absent FNM rap-metal might have popped up anyway, as tons of suburban youth like metal AND rap - ya put some chocolate in ya peanut butter and BOOM! it's like Reeses for the ears (in theory).
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post #43 of 71
2/15/09 at 1:26pm
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Originally Posted by Chavez View Post

I wouldn't defend Durst on any level, as he seems to be pretty much a roach. I also have been through this before and I don't know that you can 100% pin this on FNM - maybe these guys did grow up liking "Epic", maybe they didn't; I think absent FNM rap-metal might have popped up anyway, as tons of suburban youth like metal AND rap - ya put some chocolate in ya peanut butter and BOOM! it's like Reeses for the ears (in theory).
There was also "I'm the Man" from Anthrax, which predated Epic. And Anthrax did a collaboration with Public Enemy, although I'm not sure if that predated Epic or not. Either way, your peanut butter/chocolate analogy works. Rap and heavy music does go together and, when it works, it works very well.
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post #44 of 71
2/15/09 at 1:39pm
Would we rather have Durst doing this or directing feel-good starring vehicles for Ice Cube? I'm not sure which is worse.
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post #45 of 71
2/15/09 at 1:41pm
The movies can be avoided to some extent. The music? Not so much. They'll end up playing this bullshit in the gym and drive me into a murderous frenzy.
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post #46 of 71
2/15/09 at 2:03pm
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Originally Posted by Jake View Post
The movies can be avoided to some extent. The music? Not so much. They'll end up playing this bullshit in the gym and drive me into a murderous frenzy.
Two words - "mp3" and "player."
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post #47 of 71
2/15/09 at 2:07pm
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Originally Posted by Devildoubt View Post
There was also "I'm the Man" from Anthrax, which predated Epic. And Anthrax did a collaboration with Public Enemy, although I'm not sure if that predated Epic or not. Either way, your peanut butter/chocolate analogy works. Rap and heavy music does go together and, when it works, it works very well.
"I'm the Man" was more of a one-off joke, though. It was cool, but I can't see any sort of mass movement being launched from it. Anthrax/PE's "Bring the Noise" however, was serious yet super fun and rocked. I can see the rap/rock fans coming more from that than from "Epic" (and even then, FNM's purer rap-rock hybrid was on their first album, because their original singer couldn't really sing...but I doubt that hip-hop/metal-glazed suburban kids had "We Care a Lot" on their radar.
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post #48 of 71
2/15/09 at 2:45pm
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Originally Posted by Chavez View Post
Two words - "mp3" and "player."
No, I already got that locked down. It's just the scant few moments when I don't have one at the ready that I fear. I already suffered a crippling case of Avril Lavigne's "I Don't Like Your Girlfriend" or whatever the title may be.
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post #49 of 71
2/15/09 at 2:58pm
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Originally Posted by Jake View Post
I already suffered a crippling case of Avril Lavigne's "I Don't Like Your Girlfriend" or whatever the title may be.
That song is such unrepentant, trashy fun. But my exposure to it was only occasional.
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post #50 of 71
5/2/10 at 3:47pm
First song on

They pretty much evolved... nowhere. Unquestionable Truth pt. II?
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