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Oldboy (2003)

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What more can I say about this film that hasn't already been said? Nothing really, besides that I fucking love how it messes with our expectations of an anti-hero trying to figure himself out. His "redemption" ends up being a bad, bad thing, and essentially destroys his life, which is so far outside of traditional movies where a man is attempting to find something out. The idea of ignorance being better than knowing is thrown around a lot, and is certainly pertinent to the big reveal in this movie.

I also really admire the very visceral nature of the film, and how true Min-sik Choi stays to his character. I've seen it four times now, but the "I want to eat something alive" didn't register with me in the full effect until this last viewing a few days past. Maybe I finally understand how you must feel to want to completely destroy something living, to be that misanthropic in general. It just hit me like a cannon ball when I saw it most recently, and is now probably one of my all-time favorite scenes.

Phenomenal, dare I say flawless film. Chan-wook Park's direction is even miles ahead of his other two Vengeance films, and I'd say this is easily the best (and my obvious favorite) of the three.
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I've said it several times before but I just love the way the film plays with your concept of what acceptable vengeance is. The shift from Oh Dae-Su's physical and raw nature of vengeance to Lee Woo-Jin's grand and operatic meta-vengeance is still one of my favourite moments in modern film.
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Maybe I finally understand how you must feel to want to completely destroy something living, to be that misanthropic in general. It just hit me like a cannon ball when I saw it most recently, and is now probably one of my all-time favorite scenes.
The music that swells in as Dae-su loses consciousness from Mido's touch is so gorgeous in that scene.

This one is also my favorite in Park's Vengeance Trilogy. First off, it's such a blatantly cool film on a superficial level. And of course, it certainly had the greatest emotional impact on me. It's certainly not as unapologetically brutal as Mr. Vengeance, nor is it as dense as Lady Vengeance... but it's a good middle between the two and I enjoy watching it the most.

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The shift from Oh Dae-Su's physical and raw nature of vengeance to Lee Woo-Jin's grand and operatic meta-vengeance is still one of my favourite moments in modern film.
That's what happens when you're exposed to nothing but bad Korean TV for 15 years. Your sense of vengeful retribution never develops past pulling out teeth. Hahaha. Daesu messed with the wrong guy.
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This movie doesn't have enough threads, FOR SURE.
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I wasn't active on the boards when this movie was getting all the love. I jump at the opportunity! Won't you let me LIVE!?
post #6 of 12
Just saw this film an hour ago. Loved it.

My favorite scene may just be when No Joo-hwan reveals that Woo-jin's sister was a slut, without realizing that Woo-jin was just a few seats away from him. I thought that was wonderfully played out.
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I love Woo-Jin's reaction to that, it's the one time in the film that he acts in a primal rather than 'intellectual' way. It also sets up the weird sort of relationship that the characters have, Oh Dae-Su as the Monster and Lee Woo-jin as his own warped version of a hero complete with own chivalrous code.
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I wasn't active on the boards when this movie was getting all the love. I jump at the opportunity! Won't you let me LIVE!?
Same here. I was active on IMDB back when everyone was either loving or hating on it. Some of the arguments leveled against it were monumentally stupid, but it was worth suffering them for the great discussions I had with people over it.

I could talk about this movie for hours.
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I love Woo-Jin's reaction to that, it's the one time in the film that he acts in a primal rather than 'intellectual' way. It also sets up the weird sort of relationship that the characters have, Oh Dae-Su as the Monster and Lee Woo-jin as his own warped version of a hero complete with own chivalrous code.
That's one of the great things about the character of Lee Woo-Jin, I think his revenge on Oh Dae-Su was like a manifestation of his guilt over being in love with his sister.
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This has been playing on IFC or Sundance Channel, I cannot remember which. I recorded it and will be watching it either Saturday or Sunday for the first time. I am looking forward to this.
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Sorry to bring back an old thread, but this movie is one of the most jarring, disturbing, provocative and intense things I've ever seen. I loved it. Oldboy doesn't let go of the mind very easily, does it?
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Sorry to bring back an old thread, but this movie is one of the most jarring, disturbing, provocative and intense things I've ever seen. I loved it. Oldboy doesn't let go of the mind very easily, does it?
I've had probably 5 friends watch this movie, and it gets brought up constantly in conversation with them. Even if you try to set expectations accordingly, I think it's just too much to really be prepared for ahead of time.
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