THE ROOM Discussion - Page 3

For anyone in Seattle in March...

Central Cinema is holding a rowdy screening of the movie on March 8th!!! I won't miss it this time!

L.A. boarders - anyone wanna go on the 27th? It's playing at the Sunset 5.

Netflixed it. About to watch some of it before bed. Oh dear.

I totally see where they're coming from with that, but for my money a large majority of the people aren't trafficking in irony or anything like that but simply enjoying the movie for what it is, which is a masterpiece by mistake. The movie works almost like a cinematic equivalent to outsider art.

Don't try to overshadow me! Central Cinema serves food and alcohol!

right but L.A.'s cooler

You're tearing me APAAART, Jake!

Watching it right now.

This movie is tearing me apart...WITH LAUGHTER!

Worst acting/directing/writing/production values I've ever seen. Sex scenes as erotic as old people playing bingo. Tommy Wiseau bounces from French to Russian accents and looks like a sleazier Gene Simmons. Hilariously awful blue screen rooftop. Does the psychiatrist serve any purpose? If Tommy Wiseau appeared in the video from The Ring naked, its viewers' heads would explode a la Scanners. The Hughes Brothers were half Wiseau's age when they made Menace II Society. The tuxedos look like they came from the same thrift store Joe Pesci got his in My Cousin Vinny. CHEEP CHEEP CHEEP CHEEP CHEEP CHEEP CHEEP! Street football in tuxedos. Street football in tuxedos. What the fuck.

And this is just the first hour!

Now, everyone can try the home version.

Gonna be seeing this at a screening Monday night! Tickets have been secured! Anything for little princeeeesss... heh heh heh.

To this, I will add the vocal delivery of Owen Wilson.

Finally went to a showing of this last night. The film was indeed amazing. I'm a bit mixed on the crowd experience though. I love the energy, but jumping onto the bandwagon a little late, I kinda resent how much of the crowd experience has become ritualized and forced.

Still, better than suffering through it myself.

I don't wanna talk about it!

Saw this last night at midnight at the Landmark Egyptian in Seattle, with Wiseau in attendance. Before the movie they had a Q+A, in which Wiseau made someone guess a number between 1 and 1000 to win a shirt ("Wrong. Next. Wrong. Next. You are wrong."), sang a horribly off-key rendition of "Happy Birthday" for two audience members, got the audience to chant "USA! USA! USA!" and generally acted like the silliest, weirdest, drunkenest rock-and-roll director ever. Sestero was also there. He looked slightly unsure of how to react.

So in other words, Wiseau's appearances are about as competently put together as his movies. Kidding aside, something about how he has tried to get in on the joke, even though the film is clearly not supposed to be a comedy, bugs me.

Another guy I know complained about that in regards to some of his LA appearances and his new film, but he seemed pretty, I don't know, genuine? I didn't feel like he was artificially being the way he was to appease the fans, although one person requested he do a sonnet, and I might've been annoyed by his compliance if I'd understood a word he was saying besides a part where he said "blah, blah, blah".

According to Paul Rudd, Tom Lennon aquired a copy of the Pilot that Wiseau made shortly after 'The Room' was released. The trailer seems the same type of legendary badness his earlier film did. Now though he's just become too self aware to make a film like that again. I'm sure whatever he makes will be terrible, but he's already aware of how it's going to be received. He's like Uwe Boll at this point.

He's obviously become self aware. There's no chance he can recapture that lightening in a bottle. Even the title makes it seem like he's in on the joke. He's like R. Kelly after the first batch of Trpped in the Closet chapters.

Is anyone really surprised that he can't capture that magic? I figured everyone knew it was just a matter of time. The question wasn't whether he could recapture that magic. It was when he'd catch onto what he'd stumbled upon.

I'm sure Wiseau is genuinely flattered at the attention he's getting. But is The Room trying to be genuinely funny? That's a bit harder to swallow.

I never said The Room was funny on purpose. I just don't think Wiseau is being extra Wiseau-ey at these things, or at least not so much that it bothered me.

And seriously, if you saw this crowd, you wouldn't question whether he'd be genuinely flattered. That's what makes me feel he can't be crying on the inside: these people genuinely fucking love this guy. Posing for photos made people's nights, weeks, months, year. Even if it came about because he made a terrible movie, the affection they have for him is genuine.

Fair enough. I never said you said that the movie was supposed to be funny. Wiseau did more or less. If I were him, I'd apologize for this movie and promise that my next one will be better. Then, I'd make it worse.

Wiseau's been trying to market it as a black comedy for a few years now, once he caught wind of the midnight screenings. Even the Netflix sleeve tries to sell it as such. The movie itself evidences that it's really just capturing the dramatic trainwreck that is Tommy Wiseau, the only person I've ever seen that I was immediately not convinced he was from this planet.

I'm just hoping he tries really hard to pander to Room fans with this one and it fails miserably, so he goes off and makes a third, genuine-again project and it's even crazier than The Room.

At that point, he probably becomes bitter.

There's a lot of talk that 'The Room' had a longer, crazier cut. Man what I'd give to see that.

He filmed the movie with two cameras side by side, right? Would it be possible to take the footage from both cameras and create...THE ROOM 3D?

Probably not, right?

I love how you guys talk about him like he's friggin SKYNET.

That's the sad thing. What makes the Room the stuff of legend isn't that it's terrible, it's that it's bad in such a unique Wiseauian way. I could imagine him being set loose in different genres and managing to come up with more 'winners'. But it's a fragile magic and him embracing his cult status has probably ruined it.

Anyway I finally saw it yesterday and it has to be one of the more watchable bad movies out there. It does get boring sometimes, but there's a lot of variety to the 'gags' and you're never too far away from some great pod-person smalltalk, or a stilted jogging montage or an unsettlingly long establishing shot parked halfway through a scene.

One was an HD camera and the other was using film stock, so I don't know that the logistics of making a THE 3OOM would pan out. BUT HE NEEDS TO TRY.

If Wiseau ripped off the skin on his arm, revealing a steel machine hand, and said "Now listen to me very carefully," I actually wouldn't be too terribly surprised.

He did, mainly because he didn't have a fucking clue about film making. Then in typical Wiseau fashion he later claimed he was writing a book about making a film.

Man the cost that must've gone into that piece of shit.

And few of us should have endure the horror that is Wiseau in full 3D.

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/547307

Amazing. I got 9/10 spoons, 1/3 tapes, 2/6 things Johnny wishes he could forget, and found numerous little extra bits.

Where is Spider-man when you need him?

Denny's room! HAHAHAHA

A mashup of The Monkees theme with footage from The Room:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k-lEY76x-c

The part where Tommy says, " You know what they say, love is blind." Is one of the funniest line deliveries of all time. He says it in such a fucking weird manner. It also makes me think maybe he was going after funny? I mean how could he not be.

LooOOve is bliiind.

The whole movie has impeccable comic timing for something meant to be serious. It's autistically funny!

Our plot department was destroyed by the earthquake.

Thing is, when ever I see people throw genuine bile at this thing it feels like the wrong response to me. This isn't an Uwe Boll situation, Wiseau and The Room are great for the same reason a movie written, directed and starring Duke Fleed would be great. I genuinely don't think it's a 'bad' movie - the whole thing is such a unique blast of eccentricity it hits some level of bonkers accidental genius.

Jesus christ. Has anyone seen the trailer for Tommy Wisseaus Neighbors on youtube? It appears he is trying to actively make it campy and bad, which only makes sense after the reaction to the Room. But since hes abondoned any aspirations, no matter how deluded, of making a coherent meaningful narative, it just looks like a bunch of incoherent gibberish.

Ugh, that's just sad. So not only has Wiseau become self-aware, his next project is full of people (who are likely unremarkable actors) who are likely aware of the fact that they're in the next 'Wiseau film.' My head could crumple.

 

LATE TO THE PARTY: Independent edition. Seen through the eyes of a stubborn film fan, I finally succumbed to The Room experience.

 

I've known of The Room for a couple years now, in fact, I probably first took notice of this piece of cinematic wonder from this very thread started by Andre Dellamorte. As awareness began to spread, and I would hear more and more about how awful it is and that multiple screenings were being held for a terrible movie that was 'released' in 2003. Eventually the craze hit the Dallas scene, and the Landmark Inwood theater began adding The Room to their weekly midnight classic screening schedule. It was so popular, they have been showing it one week a month for the last eight months.

 

I did not appreciate the idea of this movie. I felt, why should I contribute my hard earned cash and time to a laughable failure? Every time I would go to a midnight show at the Inwood, for true classics like The Third Man, The Evil Dead, Pulp Fiction, or Black Dynamite, they would announce that THE ROOM will be playing soon. I would usually boo. My fellow film-fan friends embraced all the hubbub, and have been going to every screening since it arrived.

 

Then one weekend in December, the Inwood theater released their upcoming schedule, and revealed that Tommy Wiseau, the seemingly oblivious creator of this monstrosity, was gracing us with his presence on the first weekend of January. One of my friends offered to pay for my way in, along with my interest in witnessing what this rising cult legend is really like, I decided to go.

 

We arrived two hours early, and the line was already about twenty strong. Mr. Tommy Wiseau, dressed in black dress shirt, red tie, black jeans with accompanied chain hook dangling, appeared through the glass double doors to much applause. With footballs and spoons in hand, many rushed towards the man to sign the merchandise and take pictures. Soon to follow was apparently an unexpected surprise – a ruggedly handsome looking man in blue jeans and a hoodie walked in by the name of Greg Sestero. The co-star of the film was not originally announced, so many in attendance were even more excited.

 

As someone who has avoided viewing this movie, I could not understand any of this hysteria. I found it all to be very silly – these fifteen-minute-famers were sucking every last second from their allotted time until they were on the streets back to begging for a role in another poorly made student film.

 

Turns out Sestero is a really cool, down-to-earth cat. While Wiseau, as evident from all the interviews and other Q&As I watched after this event, is a delusional jerk-off, and possible alien attempting to assimilate. My crazed group eventually caught Sestero's attention to where they were holding a conversation for about 10 minutes while he would sign other fans' materials. The only thing I asked was how often they travel to screenings.

 

He said 'about every two weeks'. Wow. Dedication? Desperation? At least he's completely honest and aware about the situation he's in: he compared The Room to 'Rocky Horror Picture Show – without the talent'. In a bold offer, he even said he would view the movie with my group, which didn't happen because he said he and Wiseau had press interviews lined up while the movie was going. An empty proposition or truth, it didn't matter – Mark proved his kindness.

 

Oh yeah, this is a review of the movie The Room. It's a piece of shit. What I was more fascinated by was how this crowd has choreographed their own script to go along with the movie. “THE RESULTS ARE IN: SHE HAS CANCER” throwing spoons “BECAUSE YOU”RE A WOMAN” standing up and cheering after Johnny's profound speech “CLOSE THE FUCKING DOOR” chanting 'GoGoGo' at every sweeping establishing shot, or movement of hand towards genitals “WHAT KIND OF MONEY< DENNY?!? CANADIAN?!?” counting shelves along with Peter “ANYWAY HOW”S YOUR SEX LIFE” wondering where the hell Peter disappeared to and violently questioning “WHO ARE THESE RANDOM PEOPLE?!?!” and finally, Johnny dry humping the torn red dress. “DON”T DO IT< TYLER DURDEN”

 

I then find YouTube clips of handheld video being taken during other screenings across the country and see similarities. Did LA give birth to it all? What crowds are copying whom? Is everyone just so in tune with the same punchlines?

 

Regardless, it's clear The Room is a cult sensation, indefinitely. A joyous time had by all. Except Lisa.

I discovered The Room a couple summers ago, and it's quickly become one of my favorite things to introduce to people (as well as spurring me on to find other entries in the "so bad it's good" category). At first, I was a little nervous about sharing it. Was it really that funny, would others appreciate it like I did? Well, the first group of friends I watched it with was one of my all-time favorite movie watching experiences, and we all still quote it.

 

It really is just a perfect storm of terrible that I'm not sure will ever be equaled. It's so unbelievably bad in ever single aspect: plot, dialogue, acting, direction, basic understanding of human interaction, but it's just so freaking sincere. I've seen a lot of other famously bad movies (Plan 9, Troll 2, Birdemic, Mega Shark vs. Giant Octopus, etc.) and nothing else compares. It's so much fun to watch in groups, and infinitely quotable.

 

Also, if you've never seen it, it's worth owning the DVD just for the question and answer with Wiseau it has. You seriously could never make him up, he's such a bizarre, otherworldly figure.

The Room - Dubstep remix.

 

You are tearing me apart, Lisa! Oh hai, Mark.

Double post, but, Oh HAI, George Lucas!

Apparently it took TWO directors to make this piece of art.

"I'm tellin' you it's BOOLshit!  He did naht direct my moovie!  He deed NAAAHT!"

 

Oh hai Mark

Is he dead?!

EDIT: mistakenly posted in the wrong thread.

Edited by Jox - 2/19/11 at 4:00pm

sorry wrong thread can someone delete my post?