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post #51 of 178
This past episode was pretty bad from all aspects, the acting of the groomsmen was horrible and the story seemed to come to a halt.

I would stop watching this but the bride to be is so damn hot!
post #52 of 178
That was a really solid episode.

Great opening sequence which solidifies my theory that the killer is an ewok.

Really great ending with an awesome kill that will finally get things rolling as we now have a public murder (and of one of the primary suspects to boot).

And we finally get acknowledgment from the characters that weird shit is going down, including mention of the missing Lucy (although they did kind of gloss over that), and the discovery of the Reverend's awesomely mutilated body.

Booth is definitely dead, as it appears Malcolm buried him. However, now it really makes that whole plot thread feel even more pointless, as it seems to be pretty much resolved. Same with Trish's discovery of her stepmother's infidelity with her brother-in-law. You can almost skip the previous episode and not really miss anything.

Another booby-trap kill, so no one new is exonerated, but an argument could be made to exonerate Shane, as the sheriff said he is in jail and will remain there until after the wedding. However, until we get a another "hands on" murder, he's still a suspect.

I like the idea that someone (presumably the killer) is fucking with people, from the running shower in Malcolm's room, to the (presumably) planted firecracker in the church to implicate J.D. Someone is watching them all very closely.

I think creepy, half-burned woodsman is a complete red herring. He's definitely not John Wakefield. I went back and checked against the photos of Wakefield they showed earlier.

Shane's ominous "I have one more surprise for you" statement is also a red herring. As Henry seemed quite cheerful shortly afterwards, and we see J.D. is quite prevalent in the upcoming episodes, it couldn't have been anything too dramatic. He probably gave Henry his wedding gift or something.

It kind of sucks that after the first really good, cliffhanger-y episode, CBS is making us wait two weeks until the next one so they can give us a very special episode of The Mentalist next Saturday.
post #53 of 178
Ok, did anyone find it a little omnimous when the father said to his daughter "I just don't trust him, its a gut feeling" considering how clean cut the character of the groom (yes I still don't know most of their names) has been.

If the show doesn't acknowledge the groom as a suspect, I think we have found our killer.
post #54 of 178
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I just thought gut was a great way for his daughter to follow with "intestines"

and love other bits of diaglogue using terms like "face" and other body parts.

This was a great episode and that public kill although off-screen was awesome.
post #55 of 178
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Ok, did anyone find it a little omnimous when the father said to his daughter "I just don't trust him, its a gut feeling" considering how clean cut the character of the groom (yes I still don't know most of their names) has been.

If the show doesn't acknowledge the groom as a suspect, I think we have found our killer.
Henry was exonerated in the second episode. He and Trish were post-coital in their room when Uncle Marty was having the lower half of his body removed.

I think the suspicion Trish's father has for Henry could be explained by normal paternal protectiveness.
post #56 of 178
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Henry was exonerated in the second episode. He and Trish were post-coital in their room when Uncle Marty was having the lower half of his body removed.

I think the suspicion Trish's father has for Henry could be explained by normal paternal protectiveness.
I still say that the character was onto something about Henry. Even if he isn't the murderer, we can still find out something dark about him yet. After all this is a murder mystery and typically that means the secrets are too be revealed.
post #57 of 178
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I still say that the character was onto something about Henry. Even if he isn't the murderer, we can still find out something dark about him yet. After all this is a murder mystery and typically that means the secrets are too be revealed.
I'll give you that. This whole thing is tied to the Wakefield murders, and as of yet, we know almost nothing about them, or John Wakefield himself. Henry, or any number of other characters, might possibly end up being connected to John Wakefield in some dark, mysterious way.
post #58 of 178
Good episode, best since the pilot. Solid episode for Burgi! Got to do some serious 'bein' sad' acting in the woods, killed a dog in seconds with a broken bottle, and got killed ridiculously. Of course, the show could have used him down the line, but maybe Fatty's struggles with guilt will be just as delightful.

Jim Beaver seems to have an actual character to play too. Deadwood alum deserve that sort of thing.
post #59 of 178
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Solid episode for Burgi! Got to do some serious 'bein' sad' acting in the woods
Yeah, that's when it became clear he was going to be that episode's kill.

This show is not a good show, yet the move to Saturday makes me nervous, and I think I will be quite bothered if they don't finish the full season. The concept is impossible to not like at least a little bit, the show is as cheesy as it needs to be (reminds me of a lot of different 80s slashers), the actors are shitty but mostly nice looking, and the island is gorgeous in that Pacific Northwesty way. I also think it's cute how the show tries to be Lost sometimes, with the shock music stings and the fakeHurley and what have you.
post #60 of 178
CBS absolutely has to finish this show's run. Otherwise, it would doom any future attempts at a limited-run series as no viewers would be willing to invest in such a show if it might get cancelled before it finishes.

What's going to make or break Harper's Island is how it ends. If they can finish strongly and have a cracker jack resolution, it can find a life in repeats and video. A strong finish will forgive any early stupidity and sloppiness.
post #61 of 178
CBS is going to finish it, but they don't have to finish it. They moved it to Sat because no one is watching it. And no one is watching it because CBS hasn't gotten the word out that there is a micro brew plotline that is just the shit.
post #62 of 178
Sacred Turtle represent motherfucker!

Also, the actor that played Booth said that there was a cut scene where the others were told that "Lucy" (If that's the right name) leaves a note to say that she went back to the mainland to meet with her Husband and she'll be back for the wedding.

Why they decide to cut these things I don't know, but by all means, show more of that emoting fat guy.
post #63 of 178
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Also, the actor that played Booth said that there was a cut scene where the others were told that "Lucy" (If that's the right name) leaves a note to say that she went back to the mainland to meet with her Husband and she'll be back for the wedding.

Why they decide to cut these things I don't know, but by all means, show more of that emoting fat guy.
Wow. How incredibly stupid. It also explains why I felt like I had missed something when Trish casually mentioned Lucy would be back in time for the wedding as if it had already been discussed. And maybe this explains why the episode before last was so shitty: Perhaps they felt it best to cut out everything that was entertaining and/or important to the storyline.
post #64 of 178
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so this didn't come on Saturday, did it?
post #65 of 178
I think we're supposed to get a new episode this week.
post #66 of 178
Very stupid of them to cut that out especially since everyone seems to wondering, "Why the HELL aren't these people asking where these missing people are?" But, even so i'm still sondering why the groom isn't asking about his Uncle Harry Hamlin, he's been missing since the 1st show and they played it up like the two of them were really close??!!
post #67 of 178
The groom got a fake text from his uncle that explained that he went off to meet up with a lady or something.

I don't even care that people aren't worried about the missing. I just want more missing.
post #68 of 178
Oh really, thanks, I had no idea.
Was discussing this with my wife, and we concluded that because its the day before the wedding the rest of the show will probably be our characters trying to get off the island. Which, i sorta feel ughhhh about.
post #69 of 178
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well the show came back and answered a lot of questions. Another pretty good episode with a solid "Sploosh" kill.

I love how if you compare this to LOST, the characters actually tell everything they know to each other and dont hold secrets very long (which is pretty smart when there is somebody trying to kill everyone).

Except I still don't know if J.D. is good or bad after seeing him with burn-face man in the cabin. I'm thinking that it is probably another red herring though and the killer is going to be someone raandom out of left field.
post #70 of 178
JD's way too obvious to be the killer. My pick would be Henry.
It's typical twists that Slasher flicks these days have. Hemry working with another killer. He's Wakefield's son or something.

Cal and his girlfriend are one of the more likeable characters.
I hope nothing happens to them.
post #71 of 178
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Cal and his girlfriend are one of the more likeable characters.
I hope nothing happens to them.
Come on, they're fucking dead. I can't believe this show is paying off to watch. I think they're slowly leading us to think it's the groom, when it'll turn out to not be. Current guess is the friendly ex-boyfriend islander. I know about three characters by name.

I'd watch a second season of this, with a whole new cast and setting. But one will have to do, I suppose.

Great kill. Not the new one, the aftermath of Burgi one.
post #72 of 178
Yeah, that was a fun episode. Brit guy is on an entirely different show. I hope he is the lone survivor. Or the bored killer. You got to love the Harry Hamlin Mannequin. The Hamliquin. I think it may be the ex-boyfriend too. But it doesn't really matter who it is. The reveal is going to be the worst ever. That end of ep kill was nutty, by the way.
post #73 of 178
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I don't know how you get a gigantic f'n harpoon in the middle of the woods. Something like that had to be shot out of a cannon. But I giggled with glee.

This show is getting really fun and probably the only neat thing to watch this summer until Burn Notice starts.
post #74 of 178
Finally caught up.

Yeah this episode was definitely the turning point in the series, good episode.

If CBS wants to do many shows like this, then the killer cannot be multiple killers. The killer has to be either Abby, Henry, JD or Trish. I hope it is someone else though.

felix natalya: I think you are on to something by saying Henry's father is Wakefield.

Wikipedia is keeping a good track of whats going on.
post #75 of 178
JD is so obviously a red herring.

Let's think logically here. Abby is the protaganist. For the "Killer Reveal" to be a shocking and effective one, the individual has to be someone close to Abby and someone which we the audience are familiar with.

We don't really know Henry's friends all that well enough and I seriously doubt they'll make Abby's father himself the Killer himself.

That's makes two candidates- Henry and Abby's boyfriend.

I know their appearances don't exactly jibe during the time of some of the killings. But it could work if they were working together.

That's my take, at least.
post #76 of 178
For me, the best possible ending is some random asshole with no good reason to kill everyone. I nominate Fatweep.
post #77 of 178
Random would be great. I nominate Token Black Dude.
post #78 of 178
Some future revelations I believe will occur.

Wakefield is not the man who killed those people before. I find it very strange that we did not get to see the face of the man. Also there really seems to be no reason why he would go after anyone but the sheriff and his family.

I say the sheriff just saw his wife and assumed it must be Wakefield.

Which leads to, the man behind the current murders is Abby's former boyfriend.

Now what the connection is between the former murders and the latest murders is unclear.
post #79 of 178
Abby is Wakefield's daughter. And Wakefield is not dead, nor was he the original murderer.

Since pretty much everybody is a suspect, it will be difficult to surprise the audience. My theory is they will go the route where it looks to be one person, and right at the very end it will be revealed to be someone already seemingly exonerated, and who very cleverly framed the other person. This reveal will probably be for the audience's sake, and none of the other characters will ever know.

I think the obvious ploy to make J.D. seem like a red herring could itself be a red herring. He might very well be the killer, and this could be the show using the audience's familiarity with the conventions of the mystery genre to fool them into dismissing him as a suspect. J.D. is also one of the few characters left who was unaccounted for all the murders.

Jimmy also seems like a strong candidate. He has motive: punishing Abby for leaving him, and has no alibis for any of the murders.

My guess for the finale: Sheriff Mills was responsible for the original murders, and Jimmy for the new ones. In true copy cat fashion, Jimmy will very elaborately frame someone else (so far it seems to be J.D.) just as Sheriff Mills framed Wakefield.
post #80 of 178
RIP, Microfats. You loved the duffle full of money a little too much. And when it came time to part ways, t'was too little too late. Very surprised that the killer didn't chuck old chunk into the furnace - but maybe they spent the effects budget of the episode on something else....

Like those sunny flashback scenes! No wonder Abby's ex is looking more and more like he's the killer. He has a seven year case of the blue balls. Cocked-blocked by a dock explosion and a horrific hanging. Not many can claim that experience.

The little girl...."If you leave the island, I will die."

Right. Like they need any more incentive.
post #81 of 178
I'll have to read the recap cause i wasnt paying too much attention to the back story.

I'm sad because the main plot, fatty's microbrew, is over. Guess we'll have to go back and try to figure out who's killing who.
post #82 of 178
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not a great death episode, but still moving the plot along..

and I really have no clue who the killer is. At least we know burn face man isn't Wakefield.
post #83 of 178
Apparently chuckles' death scene was more graphic in the filmed version (an arm and a head goes flying into the furnace), but I guess either the producers or the censors got cold feet on that and went the minimalist way.
post #84 of 178
The flashback haircuts were awesome.
post #85 of 178
The best episode so far.

Whoever doing this is probably a 2 man operation. I really wish they didn't kill JD though. He was favourite character so far.
post #86 of 178
There's no way the killer could be someone in the wedding party. They spent the entire episode together in groups, and I don't see how any of them could have been slipping away to cut the power and kill three people* without the others noticing. And I think Jimmy is officially exonerated now, too. He was with Abby when Cole Harkin was killed.

*J.D.'s murder is the first one we didn't see actually happen, leading me to believe it could have been staged, and possibly involved Henry in the staging. However, if the brothers are the killers, it still doesn't explain who shot the deputy in the jail as Henry was with Abby and Katherine at the time.

Furthermore, if J.D. really was murdered, it doesn't make any sense for the killer to have deliberately tried to frame him (planting Uncle Marty's phone in his room), and shoot the deputy to allow his escape, only to kill him later.

My theory: Henry accidentally killed J.D. in a struggle, and his death was not an "official" murder. I'm sure more details will be revealed next week.

As far as the identity of the murderer(s), it has to be one of the minor characters, and is probably more than one person. *sigh* However, these last few episodes have been pretty good, and I 'm hopeful the show will resolve with something other than the usual murder mystery tropes.
post #87 of 178
I'm really digging the show (after a slow start, and the horrible kill-off of Hamlin), but unfortunately I will be ignoring this thread for fear of spoilers or accurate speculation for the time being.

Just FYI.
post #88 of 178
I doubt there will be spoilers since no-one cares about this show.

Good episode Saturday night. It does look like there will be multiple killers, which sucks.

I dont think JD is dead.
post #89 of 178
They've decided to cut out gore, it looks like. Abby's reaction to JD's wound, not the look of the actual wound itself, makes it seem like JD's a goner.

I'm think that maybe it's the British kid. Since he seems nice. Wanted to stay. Or maybe it's an outside force. How many episodes left?
post #90 of 178
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I'm think that maybe it's the British kid. Since he seems nice. Wanted to stay. Or maybe it's an outside force.
Cal (the British kid) was strung up and immobilized when Lucy was murdered, and Chloe, his most logical accomplice, was with him at the time. They were also both in their hotel room in bed when Richard was killed.

If the murderer ends up being one of the main characters, there will definitely have to be accomplices involved. Only minor characters (e.g. Maggie the wedding planner, Nikki the bartender) have yet to be exonerated for at least one murder.

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How many episodes left?
Five. And based on the last few (three kills in one episode!), they should be pretty action-packed.

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I doubt there will be spoilers since no-one cares about this show.
I care, dammit. I care.
post #91 of 178
I've been missing it. Just caught up.

I still say Jimmy, because of the flash back sequence. Wakefield kills the guy, hears Abby in the bushes, starts walking towards her, and Jimmy drives up in a truck and yells "Hey!", which causes Wakefield to follow after him. Then, there's some bullshit retconning "I saw you, but I didn't say anything, so you wouldn't feel you owed me" and we don't discuss it again. We'll be seeing this from another perspective later. And yeah, he'll likely have an accomplice, which is a shame, but probably the only way to make it not completely obvious. Look at me, taking this semi-seriously!

I miss the epic gore. They started fuckin' strong with that, now nothing.

My favorite possibility is that it's all a bunch of red herring bullshit and British Guy and Blonde Girl are just doing some Mickey and Mallory spree killing.If they end it that way, I'm buying the DVD, which will probably have actual blood in it.
post #92 of 178
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My favorite possibility is that it's all a bunch of red herring bullshit and British Guy and Blonde Girl are just doing some Mickey and Mallory spree killing.If they end it that way, I'm buying the DVD, which will probably have actual blood in it.
That is the answer to a show like this going another season. It would be awesome, however it will probably be something stupid like the groom is Wakefields son and its his way to get back some revenge.
post #93 of 178
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well this was another good episode. Really liked the cliffhanger for this too.

can't wait for this Saturday.
post #94 of 178
Don't you just love this show. All episodes are good. I have to watch some on the internet, since I work on some Saturday nights and cannot watch until later. Love the show. Can't wait to see what's next! Does Abby's father die? Why is Henry covered in BLOOD?
post #95 of 178
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last night's episode was pretty suspenseful. While the deaths were off screen, what we saw was pretty darn cool.

I'm really confused about the reveal of the Sheriff being the "game" creator. While that may be true, I don't think he is the killer. Too many people died that were not at his hands. But it does make me want to see the next episode, so this show is doing a lot of things right.
post #96 of 178
Well, obviously the sheriff isn't the killer. I'm thinking it's Abby's old boyfriend. They show him getting blown up in the preview for next week's episode, which is probably just the old bait and switch - dive into the water right before the explosion, body not recovered. The darn killer! So clever. He's probably the son of Wakefield and Abby's mum. Jealous that he was abandoned by his mother, loves to kissy on his half-sis. Basically, the plot of Scream 3.
post #97 of 178
The absence of on-screen kills is becoming increasingly suspicious. Katherine is most definitely dead, and I'm sure Beth is too (although we'll probably never have confirmation of that), but I still think J.D. might still be alive. Either that, or there's something about his death Henry is hiding (he had those scratches on his arm he never explained). If J.D. is alive, then we're looking at the two brothers as the killers, but that still leaves the mystery of who shot the deputy in the jail.

And the use of the word "child" in Wakefield's diary is a pretty strong indicator Abby is not his daughter. It's going to turn out to be a son.

My guess: Wakefield's son is seeking vengeance against Sheriff Mills for framing his father for the original murders. However it turns out, I demand the show give us flashbacks that take us through each murder so we can se how they were pulled off.
post #98 of 178
JD's dead. At the start of the last episode he was DOA, on a concrete slab, with quarters over his eyes...holding a daisy. Plus, the actor said they filmed a guts-coming-out scene that they didn't use. Also dead 4sure: Uncle Harry Hamlin.

This episode was a little different. Certainly more suspenseful than the norm. Hopefully they will maintain this through the end.
post #99 of 178
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JD's dead. At the start of the last episode he was DOA, on a concrete slab, with quarters over his eyes...holding a daisy. Plus, the actor said they filmed a guts-coming-out scene that they didn't use.
Where are you getting this information regarding unused footage?
post #100 of 178
They interview offed cast members on hitfix.com.

http://www.hitfix.com/articles/2009-...k-sheep-speaks
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