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post #1 of 207
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It's a month away and so much has happened between seasons 4 and now. First, I never thought I'd like Rescue Me even more than I already did until I met him...



But anyways it's starting April 7 and it looks like it will blow away season 4. I know a lot of you on here weren't fans of season 4 but go to the official site on fxnetwork.com and check out some of the previews. It's 22 episodes long this time and it looks like a lot of crazy shit is going to go down. I can't fucking wait.
post #2 of 207
I'll be happy when it starts up. The WTC attack conspiracy shit will probably get tiresome, but I'm still looking forward to it. I can't wait to see Michael J Fox.
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I mowed through the first three seasons last December, and am trying to find an extra $30 somewhere to get the fourth season before this start up again.
post #4 of 207
WTC conspiracy in the next season? Are you serious?
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I'm glad that they couldn't squeeze out S5 last year because it gave me some more time to forget S4. I'll be watching but I just don't know. This is the first I'm hearing of the WTC conspiracy and add that to a 22 episode season, it doesn't look good. I really hope I'm wrong because this used to be one of my favorite shows.
post #6 of 207
Daniel Sunjata (Franco) truly believes that the US government destroyed the WTC. Somehow the writers decided to fit this into the character of Franco, and are making it part of his arc for the season.

Sunjata is Nuts

You can tell from some of the cast members they think he's a nut, but seem to placate him. Hopefully it is just one episode or so.
post #7 of 207
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Daniel Sunjata (Franco) truly believes that the US government destroyed the WTC. Somehow the writers decided to fit this into the character of Franco, and are making it part of his arc for the season.

Sunjata is Nuts

You can tell from some of the cast members they think he's a nut, but seem to placate him. Hopefully it is just one episode or so.
Actually after reading that article, the 9/11 conspiracy theory causing a rift among the fire fighters might be an interesting angle, especially since Sunjata is a real life believer.
post #9 of 207
Ugh, Michael Franti and Spearhead?
post #10 of 207
Ya know after the last season of this and this huge break I really don't give a fuck about this show anymore.
post #11 of 207
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Only 5 more days left until the premiere of season 5.

There's a good article from ew.com...

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Some shows, when they hit a fifth season — as Rescue Me is now doing — grope for story lines, search for ways to spruce 
up familiar characters, and work in ratings-goosing guest stars. Their straining effort is obvious, and you can smell the desperation. But with Rescue Me, you smell the 
smoke: This series is officially on fire now.

Denis Leary's Tommy Gavin and his Manhattan firefighters are up to their usual tricks. Tommy continues to struggle with sobriety and ''sees'' his dead cousin 
Jimmy (James McCaffrey). Pudgy horndog Lou (the wise John Scurti) falls for a comely French journalist (The L Word's Karina Lombard). Tommy's estranged wife, Janet (the shimmering Andrea Roth), falls for a lout who's great in bed (Michael J. Fox in an Emmy-deserving guest arc). And Tommy's dum-dum 
teammates buy a bar and attempt to make it a hip hangout...by painting everything 
in it, including the glasses, black.

I've only skimmed the surface, suggesting without spoiling what happens in Rescue Me's new episodes. Last season, the show hit a rough patch. Its balance of laughs 'n' drama was itchy and off-kilter, with too much time spent picking at the Gavin family's emotional scabs. Now Rescue Me has taken on an invigorated intensity. The emotional center of the series has always been the events of Sept. 11, a tragedy that is the literal 
ground-zero source of nearly all the pain 
the central characters continue to experience. 
And co-creators Leary and exec producer/writer Peter Tolan know they risk exploiting that event for melodrama or laughs.

But the new season demonstrates that good entertainment can address anything. Here, in episodes about what Tommy sees 
in BBC footage of the Twin Towers' collapse, and the diseases suffered by firefighters involved in that calamity, the series earns both its drama and its bleak, soul-cleansing humor.

Of course, this being Rescue Me, none of this is solemn — it's raucous and funny even when it's tearing at your heart. You've got to watch to see firefighter Franco's 9/11 
conspiracy rants (Daniel Sunjata is so good at righteous vehemence). You've got 
to see Stephanie March, formerly a stiff 
on Law & Order: SVU, come to life as a 
 psychic who's advising both Tommy and lovably goofy Mike (clever Mike Lombardi).

And you cannot miss Michael J. Fox's performance as a wheelchair-whirling, scruffy, profane rival for Janet's affections. By the time he takes Tommy for a hair-raising car ride in week 5's episode, you feel as though you're in the backseat, hanging on for dear life, happily.
post #12 of 207
Sounds like its going to be good, but I'm still concerned about the lengthy season, making seasons longer almost always results in filler episodes.
post #13 of 207
The upside being that Rescue Me's filler episodes are often more entertaining than the major plot arcs.
post #14 of 207
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IT'S BACK TONIGHT!! Finally.

Here's a new interview with John Scurti (Lou)

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The men of 62 Truck have always got each others' backs in the field, but tension inside the firehouse will he higher than ever during Rescue Me's 22-episode fifth season (premieres Tuesday at 9 pm/ET, FX). Particularly, Tommy (Denis Leary) and Lou (John Scurti) butt heads over — what else? — a woman. Actually, a couple of women, including one of Lou's old flames. We caught up with Scurti to find out if Tommy and Lou's friendship will survive, whether or not we'll hear any more of Lou's poetry and how the show plans to overcome its extra-long hiatus.

TVGuide.com: How excited are you to have the show back on the air?
John Scurti: It seems like the last time we were on the air, polio was rampant. But I have a funny feeling that our fan base has actually gotten bigger because of the extra time. I think we're one of those shows that once you get into it, you kind of want to get a whole season, darken your windows for a weekend and eat it up with a spoon. So I think people have had time to get caught up. We're coming back big, and I know that what we're putting out there, everyone is going to be really happy with.

TVGuide.com: How do you keep the show fresh after four seasons?
Scurti: As an actor, we have a lot more leniency on this show — it's more fluid than anything else I've ever worked on. The script is not a Bible to us; we're able to make suggestions. Up until those cameras are rolling, and sometimes even during the camera roll, things are being updated and eliminated. [Co-creators Peter Tolan and Leary] listen to our suggestions, and things really move in some interesting ways in Season 5. It's new stuff, but there are some old faces that come in.

TVGuide.com: Yes, we've heard one of Lou's old flames is coming back. Can you tell us who?
Scurti: There have been so many. [Laughs] His love life is like riding a roller coaster. But Milena Govich, who plays Candy, the prostitute who took Lou for everything, comes back in a big way.

TVGuide.com: That has to cause some problems at the station, right?
Scurti: For the most part, the guys are OK with it — Tommy is not. He's looking at his best friend putting his hand right back into the fire. And at one point, Tommy and Lou come to what was written in the script as "the most violent fight in Rescue Me history." I think we fall short of that, but he and I have a great big hockey fight where everything in the room ends up on the floor.

TVGuide.com: So, is the Lou-Tommy bromance in trouble?
Scurti: The fight stems from Tommy's refusal to let me be happy with [Candy]. He just won't let it lie. Tommy's the kind of guy who doesn't know that he's put too many straws on the camel's back. There's a couple times, actually, this season where he pushes Lou's buttons.

TVGuide.com: What's one of the others?
Scurti: In the beginning of the season, Tommy and Lou end up locking horns over a woman (Karina Lombard) who appears on the scene, and we get a lot of mileage out of that. I mean, Lou shaves his mustache off for this woman.

TVGuide.com: Sounds like Lou is going to be just as busy as he was with the nympho nun last season.
Scurti: [Laughs] There's a great tradition in television of giving these character actors beautiful wives. It dates back to Fred Flintstone. I'm not sure how it happens, but I've had a good run.

TVGuide.com: So will we see more of Lou the poet this season as he chases after this new lady?
Scurti: Well, she's a French writer named Genevieve. And Lou, of course, thinks, "Well, if she's a writer and I'm a writer...." So with Lou being blind to the fact that he should never pick up a pen again except to sign his paycheck, it gets his juices going. But luckily, you don't have to sit through any of his poetry.

TVGuide.com: The show has already been picked up for a sixth season. What do you think that might hold for Lou?
Scurti: I would love to find Lou semi-retired and running a geisha house. [Laughs] Seriously, I think there is going to be another 18 episodes, and I have a feeling — unless the stars realign — that that might be it. Where it will go, I don't know, but I would say that it will be as dark and as troubled it can. I think there's going to be some shocking things. I don't think it's going to end with Bob Newhart's wife waking up next to him.

TVGuide.com: Is that darkness set up by dramatic events at the end of this season?
Scurti: There's a fair amount of darkness in Season 5. One of us gets cancer and it's really touch-and-go. There's a lot of soul-searching and facing the inevitable. But there's also some of the funniest stuff I think we've ever shot. One scene might have you weeping on the couch, and the next will have you laughing your balls off.
post #15 of 207
Scurti is the fookin man. The guy deserves more recognition for his work on this show.
post #16 of 207
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Scurti is the fookin man. The guy deserves more recognition for his work on this show.
I obviously agree...


(this post may make less sense the next time I change avatars.)
post #17 of 207
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Good season premiere. They did a real good job with the fires this week. The ending was really sad. It looks like Tommy and the Chief are going to come to blows this season after seeing the Chief holding Tommy back from going to save the guy at the end.

Garrity and Mike opening up a bar is going to be LOL funny.

Mickey at the Church and drinking was pretty good too. I liked Tommy's rant after he was watching the family videos with the family.

Michael J. Fox was on it already. I can't wait to see where they go with him and Tommy.

From the previews it looks like both Johnny and Jimmy will make appearances. I hope the father does too.
post #18 of 207
Good premiere. I'd almost forgotten what a completely self-absorbed prick Tommy is. Liking Fox already.
post #19 of 207
Fox's scene was great. Rest was just same old, same old.
post #20 of 207
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Fox's scene was great. Rest was just same old, same old.
Completely agree about Fox's scene, but not about the rest being same old stuff. I was ready to give this show the ax (been doing that with quite a few shows lately), but something about it felt fresher, more light than last season which was pretty dreadful. If they keep this up, I'll make it through this season easily.

And allow me to be the first to say it this season - Andrea Roth is flat out smokin' hot. 13 years older than me, and she'd give some of my hottest friends a run for their money...
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Andrea Roth is flat out smokin' hot.
Id have to endorse this message.
post #22 of 207
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Completely agree about Fox's scene, but not about the rest being same old stuff. I was ready to give this show the ax (been doing that with quite a few shows lately), but something about it felt fresher, more light than last season which was pretty dreadful. If they keep this up, I'll make it through this season easily.
The scenes Leary had with Gershon and Thorne feel like scenes I've witnessed a billion times. The first few seasons the show had some true substance to go with the bawdy humor. That's getting to be less and less the case.

I'm not giving up on it anytime soon, I have a hard time doing that after I've been with a show for a few years. But I really hope they can find some new angles for these characters.
post #23 of 207
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I'm not giving up on it anytime soon, I have a hard time doing that after I've been with a show for a few years. But I really hope they can find some new angles for these characters.
I stopped watching after season 4 for that very reason, and hearing that this season was going to be even longer didn't thrill me. However, Alan Sepinwall writes on his blog that despite the staleness of some of the early episodes, the season really kicks in around the fourth episode. I think I may wait until FX runs a marathon.
post #24 of 207
I enjoyed the premiere, especially Leary's rant about everyone sitting around reminiscing about his dad. The little tease of what's to come with Fox's character was a lot of fun too.
post #25 of 207
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I wasn't a big fan of season 4 though I didn't really hate it either but I thought the premiere of season 5 was better than all of season 4.
post #26 of 207
Wow. They are really, really, really good at fixing bars overnight.
post #27 of 207
Digging Gavin as almost-mentor.
post #28 of 207
"Yeah, I think I may have been here before."

Awesome.
post #29 of 207
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Michael J. Fox topped his appearance from the first episode and Tommy was such an asshole like usual but that's what makes the show so good. I laughed my ass off the entire time.

Dwight (Michael J. Fox): "Get the chair."
Tommy: "Well if you're getting a chair I'm going to get a book. A big book."
Dwight: "Good it will give you something to read in the hospital."

Tommy: "At least I can feel my feet."

Dwight crawling on the floor: "Janet, I'm getting a hardon."

I really hope Michael J. Fox doesn't get screwed out of an Emmy nomination.

Tommy going off on the guys before the section 8 meeting was hilarious. Tommy saving the woman from the car was cool. This show must be doing well because they're getting some really good scenes this year like with the front of the building blowing up, the fireworks in the warehouse last episode. The fire scenes look so realistic.

I really liked Micky and Tommy at the beginning with Mickey convincing Tommy to have a drink with him then smacks it out of his hand and slaps him in the face... twice.

The section 8 meeting was pretty funny. The Doctor is only letting Tommy stay around because he wants to get revenge on the Chief. The part where Tommy asks "So I'm not crazy?" and the Doctor replies "Oh you're crazy. You're like Margot Kidder hiding in the bushes crazy."

"Black Sean" finally tells Tommy he's dating Colleen and Tommy does nothing? I guess I'm just still used to the alcoholic Tommy from the first 3 seasons where he would have beat the shit out of "Black Sean" for that.

The end even had me laughing my ass off...

Mike: "Yeah, I think I might have been here before."
Franco: "Asshole."
post #30 of 207
The Leary Fox showdown in the second ep was fantastic, its look like Fox is really enjoying the role.

I'm not enjoying the bar subplot too much yet, it seems a little pointless.
post #31 of 207
The timing in that final scene between Mike and Franco was just perfect. The show really feels like it's gotten back to what made it great.
post #32 of 207
Franco's 9/11 Truther rant sounded a lot like something I would've said in college. They certainly nailed the mindset of those people perfectly.

I loved Mickey's entrapment at the beginning, classic stuff.
post #33 of 207
Really liked the second episode. I'm looking forward to another great season. Fox is obviously having a ton of fun, and the timing on "Oh I'm getting a boner" was impeccable. Leary's rant about each crew member was beautiful, and was represented perfectly when they decided it was a good idea to fix up a bar like a lumberjack hang out, when all they want is to meet girls.
post #34 of 207
As an aside, and speaking of Mr. Fox, is he really in a wheelchair now? Has the Parkinson's gotten that bad?
post #35 of 207
No, he's not. It's called Acting!
post #36 of 207
In that case, Genius!

post #37 of 207
Phenominal episode last night. The scene in the bar was aces. Probie vs Franco in the fire house was great as well. Too bad Sunjata actually believes all that garbage in real life.

Garrity constantly interrupting the father/daughter sex talk was hilarious.
post #38 of 207
Agreed, great episode. Loved the black bar, and asking Franco to stand in the window like a cigar store Indian. Leary trying to talk to his daughter was phenomenal.
post #39 of 207
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This was the best episode of the season so far. It's starting to remind me of the first 3 seasons more more with each episode which is great. The bar scene was hilarious. Tommy talking to Colleen about having sex with "Black Sean" and Sean keeps on walking in when he hears them talking about taking a car out for a test drive. I'm really getting into the whole 9/11 part of the show.

Next week's episode looks pretty crazy. I read somewhere that it really picks up in episodes 4 and 5.
post #40 of 207
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I was completely blown away by tonight's episode. If you haven't seen it yet try and find it online or watch one of the replays. For those who disliked season 4 and haven't liked this season that much this episode has to make up for it. It was that good. It was seasons 1-3 quality.
post #41 of 207
Lou's complete destruction of Tommy was great.
post #42 of 207
Really great episode, in no small part because I'm over Tommy as a character. I still watch to see Sean and Mike do their battle of the half-wits thing, and to see Andrea Roth occasionally drop some hot bitchy milfiness on us, but mostly for Lou. Scurti has officially stolen the show in my book, and his slapping Tommy down was awesome. Before this season, you really might've forgotten that Lou and Franco and Garrity were right there for all of it too, or that 9/11 happened to anyone but Tommy.
post #43 of 207
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I hope we see more of Jimmy this season.

It looks like Michael J. Fox plays a large role in next weeks episode.
post #44 of 207
Yeah, Between the opening scene and the last meltdown, Lou was on fire.

Bet Jimmy committed suicide.
post #45 of 207
What gives you that impression? Seems to me they're setting it up that he got out of the first tower and went into the second one, and that's where he died. So now they have to deal with losing him coupled with the knowledge that he was that close to being okay.
post #46 of 207
I see where you're coming from Dickson but for some reason I think Tati is onto something. What's the big deal about him going back in? At least for Tommy. Is Tommy going to beat himself up over Jimmy making the decision to go back in this late in the game? I guess he might but Rescue Me has the tendency to go big and Jimmy not dying a hero but as a coward by choosing to die when he was already out would be a ton of weight on Tommy.

I could be totally wrong though, I could see it going either way.
post #47 of 207
I don't remember if they ever found Jimmy's body or not, but it seems odd he'd kill himself that very day. And if he lived beyond 9/11, did he hide from everybody and then kill himself?

I could more easily see him running away from the buildings and somehow dying as he flees, so he was chickening out when he died.
post #48 of 207
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I don't remember if they ever found Jimmy's body or not, but it seems odd he'd kill himself that very day. And if he lived beyond 9/11, did he hide from everybody and then kill himself?

I could more easily see him running away from the buildings and somehow dying as he flees, so he was chickening out when he died.
They found his pinkie I believe. Next week should be interesting.
post #49 of 207
No way will they say Jimmy killed himself. They already had Jerry off himself. Doubt they'll play that card again.

Still not really bowled over by these episodes. Seems like all the 9/11 angst is recycled from the first season.

The stuff with Tommy's sponsor is dead tired. He's needy. I get it.

Sheila's scenes are useless.
post #50 of 207
I agree about Tommy's sponsee. Other than that, they're doing new and interesting stuff with 9/11 and Shiela (long overdue, btw).
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