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post #51 of 207
4/29/09 at 11:18pm
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Originally Posted by Schwartz View Post
I agree about Tommy's sponsee. Other than that, they're doing new and interesting stuff with 9/11 and Shiela (long overdue, btw).
I don't see much in the way of new or interesting with Sheila. For five seasons her character has revolved 100% around her obsessive love/hate relationship with Tommy. They really should either drop her completely or find someone new for her to pine for. Have her get it on with Mickey. Give him more to do than the same on the wagon/off the wagon AA tripe that's always thrown his way.
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post #52 of 207
4/30/09 at 12:02am
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Originally Posted by Moltisanti View Post
I don't see much in the way of new or interesting with Sheila. For five seasons her character has revolved 100% around her obsessive love/hate relationship with Tommy. They really should either drop her completely or find someone new for her to pine for. Have her get it on with Mickey. Give him more to do than the same on the wagon/off the wagon AA tripe that's always thrown his way.
Did you see the last episode? Sheila's entire storyline was it spelled out to her that her character revolves 100% around obsession with Tommy, and taking steps toward extricating herself from him. And I do like Mick, even if he is myopically tied to the AA stuff that hasn't progressed a lick since its inception in the 2nd season. Since we lost Johnny and to a lesser extent Tommy's dad, he's about the only person who doesn't buy into the hero-worship/sex mania that infects all the supporting characters when they interact with him. Giving him a real storyline would be great, but I have a feeling we're more likely to get more zaaaaniness from Uncle Teddy.
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post #53 of 207
4/30/09 at 1:16am
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Did you see the last episode? Sheila's entire storyline was it spelled out to her that her character revolves 100% around obsession with Tommy, and taking steps toward extricating herself from him.
I saw it. I just don't think any symbolic gestures she performs to remove Tommy from her life are gonna mean much in the long run. If they manage to actually find something of use for her to do that doesn't involve Tommy then I'll recant, but I doubt they'll spend the time to do that. Much easier to just have Sean say something stupid, or perhaps have Mike say something stupid. Or have both of them say something stupid in the same scene while Tommy shakes his head at their stupidity.
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post #54 of 207
4/30/09 at 1:20am
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Originally Posted by Moltisanti View Post
I saw it. I just don't think any symbolic gestures she performs to remove Tommy from her life are gonna mean much in the long run. If they manage to actually find something of use for her to do that doesn't involve Tommy then I'll recant, but I doubt they'll spend the time to do that. Much easier to just have Sean say something stupid, or perhaps have Mike say something stupid. Or have both of them say something stupid in the same scene while Tommy shakes his head at their stupidity.
Molti, do you write for this show? I think you nailed down next season's whole arc.
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post #55 of 207
4/30/09 at 1:27am
But on the bright side we've barely had any Tatum O'Neal this season. If I'm gonna gripe about what I don't like it's only fair that I get down on my knees and suck dry whoever finally realized her crap factor.
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post #56 of 207
4/30/09 at 2:01am
Does it have a formula? Yeah, pretty much any show that's been on 5+ years does. But complaining about Sheila right when they're addressing the stuff you bring up just seems weird. Not saying the show is above reproach, but I'm surprised in that I never took you for a whiner. You were always the quintessential take-whatever-good-can-be-squeezed-from-any-given-lump-of-crap guy.

You were our Lou, dammit. And all of sudden you're writing poetry and shit. Knock it off!
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post #57 of 207
4/30/09 at 2:27am
I agree on the 9/11 thing. It seemed that was it's 1st season hook. Now it's been 3 years and everyone thought it sucked and they are going back to it. IT seems like whenever the show wants to look relevant, they go to the 9/11 route...
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post #58 of 207
4/30/09 at 2:28am
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Originally Posted by Schwartz View Post
You were our Lou, dammit. And all of sudden you're writing poetry and shit. Knock it off!
Like Lou I'm full of rage on the inside! I WAS THERE TOO!

It's true that there's a formula for pretty much all long running shows, I suppose the formula gets a little more stale for me on Rescue Me because it's hard to introduce much conflict in this setting. It's not like The Sopranos where you can just throw in some new gangsters to stir shit up. They're firefighters so the only conflict the show can work with is either fighting fires or in terms of the personal relationships that the core characters contend with. Right now neither of those aspects is giving me anything new to chew on.

It's frustrating because one of the more interesting angles introduced this season, Franco and Mike's differing views of 9/11, got wrapped up in a nice tidy bow in about an hour. Why? Finally they give Mike a viewpoint that doesn't revolve around his low I.Q. and Franco an opinion that doesn't revolve around his love of pussy. But that gets put on the back burner for some reason so that those characters can get back to their familiar comfort zones.

I'm glad to hear that Fox will get more airtime in the coming weeks. His few scenes have been the best part of this season.
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post #59 of 207
4/30/09 at 9:20am
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Other than that, they're doing new and interesting stuff with 9/11 and Shiela (long overdue, btw).
I'd like to do new and interesting stuff with Callie Thorne, but Sheila just irritates me now. It's sad how much I was hoping her character would die in that fire a couple of seasons back.
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post #60 of 207
4/30/09 at 2:57pm
Agree 100% about Sheila. It was nice to see Jimmy back, though.

Poor Garrity's got a tumor, though, I bet, punching against his spinal cord.
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post #61 of 207
4/30/09 at 3:07pm
I sort of hope he does. His screentime/character development ratio is the lowest among the core group that has been there from the beginning. A tumor would give him something juicy to play with.
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post #62 of 207
5/5/09 at 11:24pm
Wow. Someone on here called the Garrity tumor thing.

Him breaking down in the hallways of the doctors office really hit me. Hopefully the character will make it through this, and Pasquale will get some good shit to sink his teeth into.
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post #63 of 207
5/6/09 at 12:46am
Good one tonight. Finally looks like a few characters are getting some long overdue attention. That last scene with Sheila was great, I hope they keep her this way for a while.

Enough with the dream sequences though.
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post #64 of 207
5/6/09 at 1:09am
I wonder if Sean will become a drug lord.
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post #65 of 207
5/6/09 at 12:01pm
This season really has been gangbusters. Lou is finally getting his WTC writings off his chest, Sheila is exploring her reasons for needing Tommy, Sean and Probie get two interesting story lines, and Tommy finally took some man up pills concerning his kid plus they've basically ditched "Tommy the Poonhound." And holy crap, is Tommy's oldest smoking. Black Sean looked like he could puke when she was telling him where she learned everything.
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post #66 of 207
5/6/09 at 6:41pm
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haha... what about Michael J. Fox? His scenes were hilarious.

I agree about Sheila that really made her interesting again. I want to see more Jimmy now. It looks like Tommy is going to start drinking again (which is what made this show so great) in order to see Jimmy again.
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post #67 of 207
5/6/09 at 7:06pm
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Originally Posted by Upgrayedd View Post
haha... what about Michael J. Fox? His scenes were hilarious.
The look on Leary's face every time Fox was saying something crazy was priceless. Michael J. Fox is damn talented if you ask me.
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post #68 of 207
5/7/09 at 10:03am
Fox is gold. When Tommy opens the beer and Fox gets offended "I can crack my own beer!" Great stuff.
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post #69 of 207
5/7/09 at 12:53pm
I cannot explain why I did not like the Sheila scenes, but it just seemed to have no effect on me at all. This could very well be due to the fact I feel like shit right now, so I should rewatch the whole episode while not on medication.
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post #70 of 207
5/7/09 at 8:15pm
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Originally Posted by matalo View Post
I cannot explain why I did not like the Sheila scenes, but it just seemed to have no effect on me at all. This could very well be due to the fact I feel like shit right now, so I should rewatch the whole episode while not on medication.
I know where you're coming from. I'm so sick of the character, I really couldn't care anymore about how she feels about anything.
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post #71 of 207
5/11/09 at 3:07pm
Oh Franco...

http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releas...ican-coup.html

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Microcinema International has provided details for the upcoming release of Loose Change 9/11: An American Coup. Directed by Dylan Avery with narration by Daniel Sunjata (from FX's "Rescue Me"), this title "explores historical events that reshaped the world – from the Reichstag Fire in 1933 that catapulted Hitler to dictatorship - to the Gulf of Tonkin Incident in 1964 that led to the Vietnam War. The film leads the audience through a roller-coaster of pivotal history before delving into the largest event of all - 9/11. The film analyzes the steps America took in the aftermath of the disaster, and the suspicious events that followed."
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post #72 of 207
5/13/09 at 6:00pm
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That was another great show last night. It has really picked up since episode 4. Lou smacked down Tommy again... good acting by John Scurti and Denis Leary. Steven Pasquale is really impressing me this season. I'm glad that they're not having him play the idiot all the time. When he broke down in the hospital in last weeks episode and when he snapped at the crew in last nights episode... it was really good. The whole fight between the different crews was hilarious. I'm really liking "Black Sean" this season especially last night when he started the fight. It reminded me of those hockey fights they'd get into in the first few seasons. Also, the whole dialogue in the truck was fucking hilarious. Immature yes but hilarious. The king of all douchebags... lmao.

The most important scene was at the end when Tommy is talking to Genevieve and Tommy finally takes a drink. I could see it coming but it kind of happened out of nowhere. The waitress finding the coin at the bottom of the glass made it seem even more great.

Edit: Can't forget about Adam Ferrara... they added so much more depth to the character last night. I really want to see more of him.
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post #73 of 207
5/13/09 at 8:30pm
I was genuinely disappointed when the waitress found the token. Not in the show, but in Tommy.
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post #74 of 207
5/13/09 at 8:55pm
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Tommy the alcoholic was very entertaining but the character has come a long way since then and it was disappointing that they had him go back to drinking. With that said I do hope that they have him drink at least a couple more times now so we can finally see Jimmy, Johnny and his Dad again.
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post #75 of 207
5/20/09 at 1:42am
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That episode was freakin' hilarious. Janet drinking and going off at everyone at dinner. Lou hooking up with Genevieve and now is going to use it to rub it in Tommy's face. The whole crazy sex scene (holy crap Andrea Roth/Janet was HOT!!) where they wake everyone up and then fall right through the door. Teddy and Maggie working at a nursing home for vets. Maggie is telling that dude a story and he just starts jerking off right in front of her. She just turns around and let's him finish. Oh man I feel so bad for Sean but when they caught him taking a shit in the bathroom of that burning building I was laughing my ass off.

Next weeks episode looks insane! Tommy drinks again and finally sees his Dad, Johnny and Jimmy.
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post #76 of 207
5/20/09 at 2:25am
This episode was a bit cartoony, but still hilarious.
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post #77 of 207
5/20/09 at 8:11am
So, yeah, Id totally shag Andrea Roth.

Jesus.
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post #78 of 207
5/20/09 at 9:50am
Why were they working in the VA Hospital/Nursing Home? I completely missed any explanation for that.
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post #79 of 207
5/20/09 at 10:45am
Maybe it was the snobby air she was trying to put on, but I thought Olivia Crocicchia (Katy) was kind of bad in this episode.
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post #80 of 207
5/20/09 at 11:28am
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Originally Posted by BillyG View Post
Why were they working in the VA Hospital/Nursing Home? I completely missed any explanation for that.
According to what's-his-face, Tommy's sponsor, Teddy thought it would help him reconnect with Pops Gavin. Forgive me on the what's-his-face as I can never remember that damn character's name.
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post #81 of 207
5/20/09 at 1:04pm
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
Maybe it was the snobby air she was trying to put on, but I thought Olivia Crocicchia (Katy) was kind of bad in this episode.
The only time I didn't want to strangle her was when she dropped the act, and had the honest talk with Tommy at the restaurant. And what was with the ending? We saw Katy in full costume dress talking with her friends, then after what seemed like maybe 5 minutes, the car drives off and Katy runs up to the screen, in the dress she had on earlier, crying. I honestly thought "is this some evil snobby twin we just saw?" It was a really sloppy ending.
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post #82 of 207
5/20/09 at 1:26pm
The only reading that makes sense to me is that after walking off in a huff, she wanted them to be mad or upset and try to win her back over, so them just giving up and leaving upset her even more.
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post #83 of 207
5/20/09 at 2:53pm
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
The only reading that makes sense to me is that after walking off in a huff, she wanted them to be mad or upset and try to win her back over, so them just giving up and leaving upset her even more.
My wife thought she was going to apologize to them and they drove off further confirming her fear that they were really terrible people. I'm not sure if I buy that or not.
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post #84 of 207
5/20/09 at 5:17pm
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Did anyone see the preview for next week? Holy shit... it looks nuts.
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post #85 of 207
5/22/09 at 8:42am
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
The only reading that makes sense to me is that after walking off in a huff, she wanted them to be mad or upset and try to win her back over, so them just giving up and leaving upset her even more.
Yea I was thinking this or its just general anger and ambivalence. It was an unusual way to end an episode.
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post #86 of 207
5/22/09 at 10:11am
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Yea I was thinking this or its just general anger and ambivalence. It was an unusual way to end an episode.
The thing that made it kind of jarring to me, and maybe this is silly, is her dress. We saw her just moments before in full costume, then all of a sudden she's out of costume/make up/etc and in street clothes running out to the car. Just felt like we missed an entire scene.
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post #87 of 207
5/22/09 at 12:16pm
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Originally Posted by BillyG View Post
The thing that made it kind of jarring to me, and maybe this is silly, is her dress. We saw her just moments before in full costume, then all of a sudden she's out of costume/make up/etc and in street clothes running out to the car. Just felt like we missed an entire scene.
Could be we're missing a scene, maybe something is going on at her school, possibly setup for whats next.

Also the sex Gavins had was real right? Due to the over the top nature of it at first I thought it they were just playing a joke on their neighbors.
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post #88 of 207
5/27/09 at 2:19am
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Holy shit that was just amazing. This show is back! This was just as good as any episode from seasons 1-3. Tommy seeing ghosts, drinking, now getting back together with both Janet and Sheila. Damien becoming a firefighter, Lou bragging about banging the French chick, Franco taking up boxing, Mike in a band, etc., etc. this show is the best show on TV again.
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post #89 of 207
5/27/09 at 1:43pm
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Originally Posted by Upgrayedd View Post
Holy shit that was just amazing. This show is back! This was just as good as any episode from seasons 1-3. Tommy seeing ghosts, drinking, now getting back together with both Janet and Sheila. Damien becoming a firefighter, Lou bragging about banging the French chick, Franco taking up boxing, Mike in a band, etc., etc. this show is the best show on TV again.
I was with you till that bit. No way in hell this show beats EVERY show out there. It's great fun right now but the best on TV?
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post #90 of 207
5/27/09 at 2:00pm
Well, right now almost all the shows are on hiatus, but it's not as good as Breaking Bad so it's still not the best show on tv. That first 20 minutes were pretty crazy. Did he eat the worm or something?
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post #91 of 207
5/27/09 at 11:12pm
Nice to see Jimmy again.
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post #92 of 207
5/27/09 at 11:45pm
That bar scene was great. But again, the show never feels like it's moving forward. It's always stuck in the same place. Tommy off and on booze, Janet and Sheila, his ghosts, his bravery, the guys being assholes and funny, and 9/11 stuff. Where are these people's arcs?
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post #93 of 207
5/28/09 at 12:02am
I was sort of hoping the whole show would be Tommy and the ghosts, but I liked the other bits we got.
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post #94 of 207
5/28/09 at 3:07am
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
I was sort of hoping the whole show would be Tommy and the ghosts
Me too, it seems like that level of facing his demons is exactly what Tommy needs. Unfortunately I don't think the writers would have been able to keep it interesting for the full episode.

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Originally Posted by Tati
Where are these people's arcs?
That's what's been bugging me about Franco this season. They've decided to make his character all about the 9/11 conspiracy theory bullshit, and seem to have completely forgot about everything he went through at the end of last season. Where's the fallout from him being the best man at his ex's retarded brother's wedding? Where're Susan Sarandon and Franco's daughter?
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post #95 of 207
5/28/09 at 11:19am
As much as I loved the episode, I was hoping some closure would come with the ghosts. It was leading up to it until the robbery bit.

I am really confused as to where this is leading. If we are going back to the old routines, then I agree with Tati, we have gone a full 360. As much as I love the old Tommy I would prefer to see him move on / grow. I am afraid this will not be the case if the previews are any indication.

(Though I love SPOILER in next week's preview, seeing Michael J. Fox taking the bull by the horns, literally.
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post #96 of 207
5/28/09 at 11:34am
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Originally Posted by matalo View Post
As much as I loved the episode, I was hoping some closure would come with the ghosts. It was leading up to it until the robbery bit.[/COLOR]
I don' think they'd have Tommy find closure with them in the space of one episode.
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post #97 of 207
5/29/09 at 6:12pm
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Some people are still going with the theory that Tommy's actually in a coma and has been since either season 2 when he fell through like 3 or 4 floors or he's been in a coma since the beach house fire in season 3.

It looks like they really have a good idea where they want to take the show since they already announce 18 more episodes for season 6 next year and most of the cast has already said that will likely be the final season.
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post #98 of 207
5/29/09 at 9:11pm
I'm not sure if I like that theory or not, but how weird would it be if Tommy came out of a coma and in "real life" he couldn't lay every hot chick ever. I doubt Leary would go that route though seeing as it wouldn't afford him opportunities like this....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckGDV...eature=related
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post #99 of 207
5/29/09 at 9:26pm
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Or how messed up would it be if he's been in a coma since 9/11 and he's just listening to Jimmy and the guys telling him everything that's going on and it's the opposite. Jimmy is the one alive and well and slept with Janet and all the other crazy shit that's gone down.
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post #100 of 207
6/1/09 at 5:07pm
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Or how messed up would it be if he's been in a coma since 9/11 and he's just listening to Jimmy and the guys telling him everything that's going on and it's the opposite. Jimmy is the one alive and well and slept with Janet and all the other crazy shit that's gone down.
That would pretty much ruin the whole damn show, and immediately take it from incredible under-appreciate gem to piece of shit.
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