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Chris Cornell - Scream

post #1 of 57
3/13/09 at 6:16pm
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What the fuck is this guy doing?
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post #2 of 57
3/13/09 at 6:27pm
Meth.
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post #3 of 57
3/13/09 at 6:36pm
The album was $3 on Amazon the other day. I sampled a few tracks-- was not inclined to purchase. Sorry, Chris. I'll be over here with my copy of BADMOTORFINGER.
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post #4 of 57
3/13/09 at 6:47pm
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This thing is not good. I'm going to have trouble avoiding microwaving it before I give it back to my co-worker.
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post #5 of 57
3/13/09 at 7:00pm
Listened to the first four songs on his MySpace. I'll report back after I find and kill him.
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post #6 of 57
3/13/09 at 7:30pm
Wow. My low opinion of Chris Cornell got even lower.
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post #7 of 57
3/13/09 at 7:48pm
From Trent Reznor's Twitter:

"You know that feeling you get when somebody embarrasses themselves so badly YOU feel uncomfortable? Heard Chris Cornell's record? Jesus."
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post #8 of 57
3/13/09 at 7:54pm
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Originally Posted by Muharulz View Post
From Trent Reznor's Twitter:

"You know that feeling you get when somebody embarrasses themselves so badly YOU feel uncomfortable? Heard Chris Cornell's record? Jesus."
Then again, it's Trent Reznor.

I'm a Cornell apologist AND I like Timbaland... but NO.
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post #9 of 57
3/14/09 at 5:09am
It certainly is a hard album to listen to.

Cornell has, without a doubt, one of the greatest voices in rock history. And he has written some fantastic songs. However, post Soundgarden, he's been fairly inconsistant. He'll have a really good song here or there, but honestly I think its a Prince-like situation with him. When in the confines of people that he trusts (or can tell him when one of his ideas doesn't work) he is golden. When surrounding himself with sycophants he has no internal gauge to tell if something is good or not.

I won't write him off. He just needs a crushing failure and an opportunity to work with the right producer.
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post #10 of 57
3/14/09 at 11:01am
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Originally Posted by johnnycinco View Post
He just needs a crushing failure and an opportunity to work with the right producer.
I think this album will be singled out as his crushing failure...

I applaud his boldness in stretching his musical boundaries, but WTF?

I had to listen to my old copy of Shatner's The Transformed Man to get the taste of this dreck out of my system.
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post #11 of 57
3/14/09 at 11:26am
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Originally Posted by Muharulz View Post
From Trent Reznor's Twitter:

"You know that feeling you get when somebody embarrasses themselves so badly YOU feel uncomfortable? Heard Chris Cornell's record? Jesus."
This.
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post #12 of 57
4/2/09 at 7:36am
Finally got around to listening to this.

If there's any positives to this, it's that it makes Carry On sound like the White Album by comparison.

Doesn't make up for the fact that something in the musical collective unconscious died screaming when they decided to run Chris motherfucking Cornell's voice through Autotune.
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post #13 of 57
4/2/09 at 8:42am
This edge of the musical envelope isn't my cup of tea anyways (understatement) so I'll actually be interested in seeing whether this catches on with anyone, kids who have never had any use for Cornell before and have probably barely heard of Soundgarden, and don't listen to anything outside of a club anyways.


The fact that it's Cornell causes sadface, but is this "bad" relative to other club music (or whatever you call this stuff)?
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post #14 of 57
4/2/09 at 8:49am
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Originally Posted by johnnycinco View Post

I won't write him off.
I will. His best work is behind him. He hasn't done anything half decent since the 90's.

Jakes opening post says everything needed to be said about this project.
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post #15 of 57
4/2/09 at 8:55am
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Originally Posted by BrianM View Post
The fact that it's Cornell causes sadface, but is this "bad" relative to other club music (or whatever you call this stuff)?
It's not the worst thing I've heard in the genre as of late, but there's being young and dumb and wanting to sing shitty songs about clubbing, then there's being an aging rock star trying to appeal to young, dumb club kids through shitty songs. This album's the latter. That just makes it worse.

Trent Reznor's dead on.
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post #16 of 57
4/2/09 at 9:24am
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Originally Posted by Justin Clark View Post
then there's being an aging rock star trying to appeal to young, dumb club kids through shitty songs. This album's the latter.
That's the most depressing thing I've read in ages.
I fucking LOVED Soundgarden, back in the day.
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post #17 of 57
4/2/09 at 10:18am
Trent Reznor had some more fun at Cornell's expense.
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post #18 of 57
4/2/09 at 10:28am
This is the comedy album of the year.
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post #19 of 57
4/2/09 at 11:03am
I don't know why I'm trying to defend the guy, but I'm glad that Cornell is trying to do something different instead of continuing to push out generic grunge-lite.

That's assuming that he's trying musically and artistically, and not 100% focused on "will 'the kids' like this?" I haven't listened enough to form an opinion on that and, truth be told, probably wouldn't buy a new Cornell album in any event.

It's like when Plant and Page redid the Zep thing, versus Plant's hit-or-miss efforts to move on with things like the Honeydrippers (and Raising Sand more recently). I'm not spending a lot of time listening in either case, but I have a lot more respect for the latter.
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post #20 of 57
4/2/09 at 11:13am
I bet it's more something like this than trying to do something different.
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post #21 of 57
4/4/09 at 3:51pm
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Originally Posted by OCallaghan View Post
That's the most depressing thing I've read in ages.
I fucking LOVED Soundgarden, back in the day.
Same Matt, same.

Kurt took himself out of the game at the end of the first round, Eddie Vedder's seemingly becoming this pseudo-Youngesque elder statesmean of rock these days, and Cornell has fucking turned into this???

Wherever he is today, Kim Thayil must be thanking his lucky stars he retired when he did.
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post #22 of 57
4/8/09 at 10:02am
Almost as funny as this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIA61HB46yg
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post #23 of 57
4/9/09 at 10:20pm
The thing is, I am all for artists trying new things, even when it has the potential to alienate their audience. However, there had to have been better producers to work with. Timbaland has more than his share of hits, but he tends to work better at one song with an artist than a whole album. Chris really should have worked with Danger Mouse instead- that would have been a listenable album.

When I sold my copy to Amoeba records the girl at the trade in desk turned to me and said, "This album haunts me"

"Is it because you keep seeing it being traded back, or because you wanted to like it but could barely finish listening to it"

"Both"
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post #24 of 57
4/9/09 at 10:38pm
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Ah, the beautiful Amoeba folks. Gotta love 'em.
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post #25 of 57
1/1/10 at 3:23am
Well, looks like Cornell KINDA learned his lesson. Soundgarden's getting back together. http://www.soundgardenworld.com
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post #26 of 57
1/1/10 at 3:34am
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Could be awesome if Cornell gets his shit together. Everyone else has been doing fine.
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post #27 of 57
1/1/10 at 3:47am
Hopefully, they won't just play Europe and South America like FNM did.

How weird would that be? Soundgarden, FNM, and Alice in Chains on a major summer tour together? The "Party Like it's 1992" tour?
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post #28 of 57
1/1/10 at 9:55am
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Could be awesome if Cornell gets his shit together. Everyone else has been doing fine.
Sources tell me he hasn't gotten his shit together. Money grab.
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post #29 of 57
1/1/10 at 10:37am
Is this bullshit the reason Pearl Jam hasn't announced a proper North American tour? No drummer?
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post #30 of 57
1/1/10 at 12:35pm
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Originally Posted by HBarr View Post
Sources tell me he hasn't gotten his shit together. Money grab.
Oh man. :/
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post #31 of 57
1/1/10 at 12:48pm
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Originally Posted by Raspberry Leper View Post
Is this bullshit the reason Pearl Jam hasn't announced a proper North American tour? No drummer?
I was just about to ask, is PJ going to replace Cameron? I think Irons is still around. If Soundgarden comes back at least as well as AIC did, this will be just fine.
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post #32 of 57
1/1/10 at 12:50pm
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Yeah, I'm cool with Jack Irons being back on drums.
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post #33 of 57
1/1/10 at 12:56pm
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If Soundgarden comes back at least as well as AIC did, this will be just fine.
I'm skeptical. He has a place in Bradenton close to some friends of mine and according to them 1. his voice sounds like crap and 2. still partying too hard.
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post #34 of 57
1/1/10 at 12:57pm
Does this mean that the '90s nostalgia/revival has fully arrived? I mean, Courtney Love is back on drugs and STP is back together now... I wonder who's next?
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post #35 of 57
1/1/10 at 1:02pm
Ha! Kind of fails without Nirvana, Mother Love Bone, Blind Melon, etc. Man, the drugs were hard on the 90s bands, huh?

I don't mind hearing some of them get back together (provided they have the chops).
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post #36 of 57
1/1/10 at 1:14pm
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Ha! Kind of fails without Nirvana, Mother Love Bone, Blind Melon, etc. Man, the drugs were hard on the 90s bands, huh?

I don't mind hearing some of them get back together (provided they have the chops).
I don't know if MLB would qualify. I always saw them as more of a hair metal 80's band. Anyway, have you heard MLB's stuff? It's terrible. I bet in his darkest moments, Jeff Ament thanks God Andrew Wood had a heroin problem. If Wood hadn't died, MLB and Warrant would be playing a State Fair right now.
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post #37 of 57
1/1/10 at 1:28pm
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Yeah, I never really got the posthumous love for MLB - the first time I heard PJ cover Chloe Dancer/Crown of Thorns I thought "Hmm, that was kinda awesome, I'll get the album" then I did and was taken aback by how middling it was.
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post #38 of 57
1/1/10 at 1:38pm
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I don't know if MLB would qualify. I always saw them as more of a hair metal 80's band. Anyway, have you heard MLB's stuff? It's terrible. I bet in his darkest moments, Jeff Ament thanks God Andrew Wood had a heroin problem. If Wood hadn't died, MLB and Warrant would be playing a State Fair right now.
That's not fair. Like calling AIC a metal band. MLB was a glam throwback, for sure, but the material was more intelligent and soulful than any of the popular MTV bands at the time. They were closer in kinship to Jane's and the Peppers) Andrew Wood had amazing charisma, and could have been something special.

I'm excited about the Soundgarden news. They were my Zeppelin. For real. Now I await the Screaming Trees reunion, they were my Who.

EDIT: Do people really take the new incarnation of Alice In Chains seriously? Without Layne Staley what's the point? To have another sing those hauntingly personal lyrics is insulting!
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post #39 of 57
1/1/10 at 2:13pm
Best Seattle band from that era is Mudhoney. What's surprising about Soundgarden is how well Superunknown has aged.
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post #40 of 57
1/1/10 at 2:19pm
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Trees were good, but I prefer Lanegan's solo work to their output.

And yeah, Mudhoney's sadly underrated.
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post #41 of 57
1/1/10 at 2:22pm
I can't see Irons coming back to Pearl Jam or this news really effecting Cameron's relationship with PJ. In fact, I can see PJ and Soundgarden playing the same bill with Cameron doing double duty. Would that be awesome or what?
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post #42 of 57
1/1/10 at 2:35pm
Yes, Trees were good. I always wished that Josh Homme had been in the band long enough to record an album with them.

As far as realizing the awesomeness that is Mudhoney, it took me awhile to get there. Sometime after really getting into Iggy & The Stooges and having, frankly, rejected a lot of the other '90s bands for metal and hard rock that wasn't posing as something else. (That's sorta how I look at grunge nowadays-- metal without calling it metal.)

So Soundgarden... best thing to happen to PJ was Matt Cameron. I got tired of PJ's strummy angry hippy sound kinda quickly, so seeing them at Lolla 2 years ago was a nice surprise. His drumming definitely carried a lot of the energy. It's a loss for the band. But its a good thing for the SG guys. Wtf has Kim Thayll been up to for the past 10 years?
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post #43 of 57
1/1/10 at 2:37pm
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That's not fair. Like calling AIC a metal band. MLB was a glam throwback, for sure, but the material was more intelligent and soulful than any of the popular MTV bands at the time. They were closer in kinship to Jane's and the Peppers) Andrew Wood had amazing charisma, and could have been something special.

I'm excited about the Soundgarden news. They were my Zeppelin. For real. Now I await the Screaming Trees reunion, they were my Who.

EDIT: Do people really take the new incarnation of Alice In Chains seriously? Without Layne Staley what's the point? To have another sing those hauntingly personal lyrics is insulting!
I still dig Cantrell. I like the fact that they're not just touring old material with someone elses voice, but actually recorded a new album. It really is best if you consider it Jerry's band now, instead of Jerry and Layne. Nowhere near what they were as a whole, but still better than a lot of the touring Rock* groups out there right now.

*Like Nickelback, Daughtry, and all the other terrible bands out there too hard to be indie (or whatever you want to call it) and too soft to be metal.
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post #44 of 57
1/1/10 at 2:38pm
You'd think the dudes from Soundgarden would have heard Cornell's output over the past decade and refused him the job.

"Sorry Mr. Cornell, you're just not what we're looking for."

As for the 90's stuff; I'll take the Nirvana with a side of Pearl Jam STP and Blind Melon. Hold the Alice In Chains and Soundgarden... I'll never be able to fully explain why I never got into them or still can't. I guess neither were heavy enough for my metal interests or catchy enough for my pop interests. I don't know, total mystery.
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post #45 of 57
1/1/10 at 2:40pm
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Originally Posted by Pop Zeus View Post
Yes, Trees were good. I always wished that Josh Homme had been in the band long enough to record an album with them.

As far as realizing the awesomeness that is Mudhoney, it took me awhile to get there. Sometime after really getting into Iggy & The Stooges and having, frankly, rejected a lot of the other '90s bands for metal and hard rock that wasn't posing as something else. (That's sorta how I look at grunge nowadays-- metal without calling it metal.)

So Soundgarden... best thing to happen to PJ was Matt Cameron. I got tired of PJ's strummy angry hippy sound kinda quickly, so seeing them at Lolla 2 years ago was a nice surprise. His drumming definitely carried a lot of the energy. It's a loss for the band. But its a good thing for the SG guys. Wtf has Kim Thayll been up to for the past 10 years?
I don't imagine it would be the end of Cameron in PJ. I think both bands can exist with him in it. If not, than Matt Chamberlain, who is a extraordinary drummer who worked with PJ and Tori Amos for a while should go back.

The drummer conundrum would continue with the Trees, as I believe their drummer is now the touring drummer for R.E.M.?

Whatever Kim Thayill has been doing for the last 10 years, I'm sure there was a beer in his hand, like EVERY publicity photo for Soundgarden I'd ever seen.
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post #46 of 57
1/1/10 at 2:59pm
If Jack White can juggle three bands, I'm sure Cameron can work out the kinks involving two. I don't consider Cameron to be "just another drummer for PJ" anymore. He's been with the band for over 11 years. Seems pretty happy with his tenure, too.

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Originally Posted by Timothy Q View Post
Hold the Alice In Chains and Soundgarden... I'll never be able to fully explain why I never got into them or still can't. I guess neither were heavy enough for my metal interests or catchy enough for my pop interests. I don't know, total mystery.
The reason I still find Superunknown so stunning after all these years is the songs are both visceral and hypnotically melodic at the same time. The architecture of the tunes and the jump in the caliber of songwriting from Badmotorfinger is nothing short of mesmerizing. There's not a wasted moment or note. A true masterpiece in every sense of the word.
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post #47 of 57
1/1/10 at 8:53pm
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Originally Posted by Fat Elvis View Post
That's not fair. Like calling AIC a metal band.
Respectfully FE, AIC IS a metal band. They just did something more interesting with it. True, MLB was better than Warrant or Firehose, but, at the end of the day, I don't think their songs did that much to break out of the mold to become something that would last as long as Pearl Jame has. To be fair, most bands don't and you could argue that PJ's better days are behind them. But that was the point: MLB would never have become Pearl Jam and if Pearl Jam never happened, we wouldn't be talking about MLB.
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post #48 of 57
1/1/10 at 11:23pm
I want nothing to do with this reunion, personally, and selfishly hope it dies on the vine, especially if it adversely affects Pearl Jam in any way (specifically touring). I had the mispleasure of seeing Soundgarden on their second Loll stint in '97 or whenever that was. They were fucking abysmal. A dozen years later they are going to be better? No, no they won't. Fuck the Jane's reunion, fuck the Pumpkins rebirth, fuck the new Alice In Chains. Thanks, guys, but we don't need a new STP album, and, no, Courtney, deciding to use the Hole moniker for your new solo album isn't a good idea.
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post #49 of 57
1/1/10 at 11:47pm
You forgot "And stay off my lawn!"
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post #50 of 57
1/2/10 at 12:04am
Just to even things up, reunions of the following bands are welcome:
Screaming Trees
Ned's Atomic Dustbin
Soul Coughing
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