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post #51 of 377
post #52 of 377
That's really fucking sad. News kind of broke my heart.
post #53 of 377
Premieres tonight. You can find a ton of local coverage, including a piece from Simon, here. NPR also had several pieces and there was a long interview on Fresh Air. The local crew and a lot of the cast had a premiere here last night.

I would love to see an economic impact study that TV/Film production has on the city and see if it is possible to measure if it has lead to an increase in tourism. Apparently some of the tour operators are getting Treme tours ready.
post #54 of 377
I've been looking forward to this all week. Like I need another show to watch.
post #55 of 377
I like how a lot of the reviews for this are like "It's really, really good, but don't go in expecting The Wire 2."
post #56 of 377
It's not trying to be The Wire 2 though from what I can tell. Telling a story just as epic, but in a completely different way.

By the way, if you want to get in the mood some today, look for tracks from Kermit Ruffins. He is in the series and the music adviser for the show. And a total New Orleans character.

Edited to add: An Open Letter from David Simon about Treme in the paper today.
post #57 of 377
Despite being super-excited about this, I don't have HBO and won't be subscribing (Time Warner can bite me), so does anyone know if there's a legal way that I can watch? I can't find anything that indicates iTunes is going to get this.
post #58 of 377
Lot of bars around here are having screening parties. Sorry you aren't here for that. Only reason I keep my HBO subscription is for their original programming.
post #59 of 377
Re: That editorial

God, I want David Simon and David Milch to have a talk show together. Wouldn't that be something?
post #60 of 377
So fucking excited.
post #61 of 377
THEY GOT IT! THEY FUCKING GOT IT! Of course as my wife said: will anyone besides "us" watch it and understand it? Will people who aren't in love with this city watch and know? God that was great.

Edited to add: a post from the blog of Kermit Ruffins' record label with facts and trivia.
post #62 of 377
Speaking only for myself, there was a few things that flew over my head, but I'll be damned if I didn't find it compulsively watchable and completely fascinating. I can't wait for more. Simon's style is to throw the viewer in without explanation and hope we can swim (pardon any bad pun, it's not intended). This works for me because I feel like I'm learning something about the culture of a place I"ve never visited.
post #63 of 377
What flew over your head Parker? Just curious. There was a lot there for locals, so I will answer what I can.

The thing which gets to me is the sound of the helicopters. God, I can remember those. There would be silence all around and then you would hear them. We live in Jefferson Parish close to the airport, so we would hear them all the time flying over. But when you were in the city proper, you could be in a neighborhood completely quiet then hear those helicopters over head.
post #64 of 377
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Originally Posted by MissZooey View Post
Despite being super-excited about this, I don't have HBO and won't be subscribing (Time Warner can bite me), so does anyone know if there's a legal way that I can watch? I can't find anything that indicates iTunes is going to get this.
I doubt it, as that would really kill any incentive to subscribe to HBO just for their series. As far as legal means, I'm afraid waiting for disc release is still the only option.

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Speaking only for myself, there was a few things that flew over my head, but I'll be damned if I didn't find it compulsively watchable and completely fascinating. I can't wait for more. Simon's style is to throw the viewer in without explanation and hope we can swim (pardon any bad pun, it's not intended). This works for me because I feel like I'm learning something about the culture of a place I"ve never visited.
You really should go at least once. I live less than 3 hours from NO, and go there fairly frequently (at least twice a year). I'll be there for Jazz Fest in a few weeks. Great and magical place. Dirty... but awesome.

And for fucks sake, when you do go, spend as little time on Bourbon St. as possible. By all means, explore the French Quarter. But venture out as well. There's a lot to the city besides that little chunk. I can't stress it enough: one stroll down Bourbon just to check it off your list and then be done with it.
post #65 of 377
Yeah, I really need to watch this and don't have HBO either. Fucksticks.
post #66 of 377
I loved it. While it has already been stated, I love the way David Simon just throws you into this world and slowly acclimates you to its intricacies. They've created a cast of characters I want to spend time with. Of all the characters on the show, Clarke Peters was the one I had some difficulty quite understanding, perhaps someone in the know can fill me in on exactly what he is about, but I trust I'll 'get it' at some point.

Going into this I wasn't sure what they'd do with the premise. After one episode I get it and am hooked.
post #67 of 377
Peters is a Mardi Gras Indian Chief. It is a unique subculture in NOLA. They march on Mardi Gras day and St Joseph's Day. Their costumes are super elaborate and they spend the entire year making the costumes and practicing. They also have inspired and do create a lot of music.

The song "Iko Iko" is actually about Mardi Gras Indians. Also check out his song Big Chief.

His son is a nod to Jazz musicians like Nicholas Payton and Wynton Marsalis. Guys from here who play more neo traditional Jazz, than NOLA style.
post #68 of 377
THE CHIEF! Man, that was an amazing entrance, and scene. Loved this whole show, I can't wait to hang out with all these people again in a week.

Been to New Orleans once, the winter before Katrina. Only had a weekend and so didn't do much more than the Tourist Touchpoints, but the next week I'd find myself idly googling NOLA classifieds and real estate. I've never fallen in love with a city so fast.
post #69 of 377
Something else popped into my head, in the opening scene when they are talking about Shorty, they mean Trombone Shorty. We were actually going to have him play a wrap party for the movie I was on when Katrina hit.
post #70 of 377
I'm going to love this show so much.
post #71 of 377
HBO have greenlit Season 2 already! That's pretty fucking fast. It seems they're playing things a bit loose given all that 'True Blood' money is rolling in.
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Peters is a Mardi Gras Indian Chief. It is a unique subculture in NOLA. They march on Mardi Gras day and St Joseph's Day. Their costumes are super elaborate and they spend the entire year making the costumes and practicing. They also have inspired and do create a lot of music.

The song "Iko Iko" is actually about Mardi Gras Indians. Also check out his song Big Chief.
This was the biggest thing I didn't "get" entirely when I watched the show. But it was so entertaining (and so nicely handled) that I didn't really care! I knew it had something to do with parades and music, but that's about it. I just love how he uses it to convince his buddy to help him out and haul stuff out of the bar. The scene could have been really cliched, but it was pitch-perfect.

And I'm glad they're staying away from the touristy aspects of New Orleans so far. I'm sure they will address it eventually, but I feel like I'm actually getting to know the city.
post #73 of 377
Loved the show so much. The Wire's pilot is not great. This was great. I won't be expecting The Wire 2, but i know i can expect greatness.

Tremendous cast, music, direction and script.

Everybody needs more Goodman. The man is a mountain.
post #74 of 377
People, The Wire's pilot had The Wire's first scene (snotboogie) thus making it better than 96.36% of all other human endeavors.

Treme's pilot is probably part of that 3.64% tho.
post #75 of 377
I loved the premiere so much. Just the music and the tone of the whole thing has me in for the long haul. Add to that the greatness of Goodman, Pierce, Peters and Zahn and you'd got some excellent icing on an already delicious cake.
post #76 of 377
I'm not the biggest fan of the music genre but damn, if you listen to this show's music and you don't start to at least involuntarily tapping your foot, something must be wrong with your nervous system.
post #77 of 377
Love the show. I've never been to New Orleans, but I might have to rectify that.

My one minor complaint: we get to see Steve Zahn completely naked and yet Kim Dickens takes a shower in her panties? Boo hiss, HBO.
post #78 of 377
Loved it. The music is incredible. I don't think it's going to have the narrative drive of the Wire, but spending time with these characters and this music will be a great treat.
post #79 of 377
i really enjoy the way john goodman says "federal fuckup"
post #80 of 377
I've been thinking about it since I saw it, and I'm pretty excited to have this on for the rest of the Spring. Treme followed by Breaking Bad makes Sunday the best TV night now, that's for goddamn sure.

Love Zahn, Pierce, and Goodman in particular. Very interested to see what's up with the Mardi Gras indian. The women haven't hit for me yet, but Kim Dickens seems better cast here than in Deadwood.
post #81 of 377
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My one minor complaint: we get to see Steve Zahn completely naked and yet Kim Dickens takes a shower in her panties? Boo hiss, HBO.
Not only that. We got the sideboob equivalent of a taint shot. But no Dickens love. Honestly, this is reverse sexism on HBO's part.

I feel kind of dirty saying this but the truth has to be spoken.
post #82 of 377
So, who pays the guys to do the parade?
post #83 of 377
Judging from similar parades we have in Greece, no one. They do it because they want to. For financing they usually hold fundraising balls but in the end some of the money has to come out of their pockets or if they're lucky some local business sponsoring them.
post #84 of 377
Article that might explain that a bit.

Also notice the opening scene shows Baptiste is taking the parade gig strictly because of the money, and its even hinted that its something he didn't usually do.
post #85 of 377
The opening parade band was paid for by the group leading the 2nd line. The closing parade was paid for either by the family or a social aid and pleasure club.
post #86 of 377
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Article that might explain that a bit.

Also notice the opening scene shows Baptiste is taking the parade gig strictly because of the money, and its even hinted that its something he didn't usually do.
Yeah, the fact that he says "play for that money, boys" and by the end of it looks like he's ready to collapse (plus the shot of his aching feet, and his ex seems surprised to see him) means this is for the cash only. This isn't something he does often. The funniest scene in the pilot was when he asked Kermit for an advance because the cab had his bone. The guy, as he puts it, is hand to mouth, just trying to make it work. So I don't think it's anything we can blame him for.
post #87 of 377
Fuck this series, teasing me with Anwan Glover.
post #88 of 377
God that was fun. It made us laugh out loud at places and cringe at others.

Anyone getting an Ignatius Reilly feel from Steve Zahn's character (only less annoying)? Also, love the Clover grill comment.

By the way, little in joke with the fat guy playing the DJ: he's a local DJ in real life. Nice guy too. He has done a lot of small bits in films shot here.

Finn McCool's t-shirt was nice touch. You want to read a good book check out Finn McCool's Football Club. About a bunch of expatriates living in NOLA before, during, and after the storm. When I first read it, I realized the opening takes place as I am evacuating my family.
post #89 of 377
Casey, is the Davis character based on anyone specific? I was kinda surprised to see him get fired from his DJ job so soon in the series. But I loved the parallel between him and Baptiste slumming it on Bourbon street.

This is such a unique series and I'm really enjoying it so far. I don't think TV has really ever seen anything like it.
post #90 of 377
I finished The Wire up about two months ago. I consider it the best television show I've ever seen...by a nice, wide margin.

I'm not a huge fan of NOLA, but I've only been there twice, both times as a tourist. I grew up in Charleston, SC. Architecturally, they are cousins. They both share strong local french-inspired cuisine. They are both southern port cities. NOLA is much larger, much dirtier, and much more dense in the way of culture. Charleston's claim to fame is in historical quarters. But I thought NOLA was filthy. I missed out on the music, but I will admit to loving the food. I'd go back to NOLA just for the food.

But this show is exceptional already. We're just warming up to the characters, getting lost in the minute depth and density that Simon shows always bring. And it's special.

But what I love, what I can't believe is so good, is the music. Loved the parades in the first, and Lucia Micarelli on the violin...I'd marry her for that first song alone. So I'll buy all of the music that this show opens my eyes to. And I'll want to go eat all of that food.

Can't wait for next week.
post #91 of 377
Parker, I am not sure he is based on any one specific character, but rather is more this type of person you find in the city. They are really into the music scene and the local flavor, but somehow are always slightly apart from it. Like not all the way a musician, but yet they can play; sometimes you get them in the literary scene as well.

One thing I have been surprised so far, so little made of the Catholic school system and just how important high school are down here. When someone from or in NOLA asks you where you went to school, they want to know where you went to high school.
post #92 of 377
Casey, they have the daughter there, so hopefully they'll bring that element in. They've got plenty of ground to cover and at least two seasons to do it.
post #93 of 377
Yeah, we were playing "where did she go to school before Katrina" last night. I was guessing Newman or McGee. Private schools but not Catholic schools.
post #94 of 377
You don't fuck with Lester's tools.
post #95 of 377
Man I hope he didn't kill that kid.
post #96 of 377
I keep meaning to catch up with this and forgetting. I'm gonna make a point to set my DVR when i get home tonight. HBO generally does plenty of reruns so I can catch up fairly quickly I think. How many eps have aired? Two?
post #97 of 377
did peters kill that kid? as soon as he picked up the pipe i assumed it was a kill beating.
post #98 of 377
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Fuck this series, teasing me with Anwan Glover.
Exactly what I was thinking. The is the first show in a long time where I'm watching each episode twice. It's fucking magic.
post #99 of 377
How does Simon do it? Dropping you again and again in unfamiliar places, among huge casts of characters, telling stories this complex and still making sure you have such a great time?

What a great time. What a great show. I wish there was an episode every day.
post #100 of 377
I get bummed when the end credits roll, I could just watch and listen to these folks for hours.

I'm worried Sonny is going to be the Ziggy Sobotka of this show. Looking forward to being proven wrong.
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