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'Goin Galt?' This is stupid.

post #1 of 51
3/17/09 at 7:29pm
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The John Galt stupidity is seemingly everywhere now, and as befits the target audience, these stupid motherfuckers are missing the point.

In Atlas Shrugged (yes, I read the whole damned thing), the planet was going to crap because the captains of industry, the intellectual titans, and the self-motivated 'masters of the universe' retreated to a mountain hideaway, allowing things to take their natural course.

This is about as far from the current scenario as you can get. The current problem is that the captains of industry, the intellectual titans, the Wall Street wizards, were let loose without any supervision. They have fucked it up supremely, with the 'leechers' and 'parasites' forced to pick up their goddamned mess.

This is infuriating. John Galt can go fuck himself.
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post #2 of 51
3/17/09 at 7:41pm
I don't know if you saw this but it was sort of funny. Stephen Colbert went Galt for about a minute: link.
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post #3 of 51
3/17/09 at 7:43pm
Good stuff. As is all those assholes finally coming out as Randian humanoids.
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post #4 of 51
3/17/09 at 7:45pm
Fuck, just give the Objectivists their own little society far away from everybody else, just as they'd like, and be done with it - OK, American government?
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post #5 of 51
3/17/09 at 7:49pm
I guess we are lucky that the influence of Atlas Shrugged and Ayn Rand seems to be somewhat limited to the states and has no real resonance over here. My most intense encounter with her was actually in Matt Ruffs "G.A.S.". So color me a lightweight when it comes to this insanity.

But who is actually goin´ Galt in the first place? Everyone talking about it still takes his paycheck or is sitting in his senate seat from what I can tell. Ain´t reality a bitch for those wordy words. But then again I am living in a socialist society by their standards, so what do I know?
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post #6 of 51
3/17/09 at 7:59pm
Ayn Rand was a cunt.
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post #7 of 51
3/17/09 at 8:01pm
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Originally Posted by Jan View Post
I guess we are lucky that the influence of Atlas Shrugged and Ayn Rand seems to be somewhat limited to the states and has no real resonance over here.

That's a nice thought, but when we go down, we're taking EVERYONE down with us, guns-a-blazin.
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post #8 of 51
3/17/09 at 8:02pm
I had a friend flip out at me a few weeks back when I talked shit about objectivism. Apparently I'm not allowed to say anything negative about it unless I've read Atlas Shrugged front to back. That didn't make any sense to me.
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post #9 of 51
3/17/09 at 8:03pm
Yeah, it's hilarious to see how literally no one is actually going Galt, but everyone who buys into this shit is posturing and threatening. Despite the fact that none of them actually contribute anything concrete to society.
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post #10 of 51
3/17/09 at 8:51pm
I think a lot of these people are just looking for a way out of paying their student loans.
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post #11 of 51
3/17/09 at 8:53pm
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I had a friend flip out at me a few weeks back when I talked shit about objectivism. Apparently I'm not allowed to say anything negative about it unless I've read Atlas Shrugged front to back. That didn't make any sense to me.
I had to read Atlas Shrugged in High School. It's pure, unmitigated shit. It fails as literature and it fails as propaganda.

If I ever get a time machine I'm going to punch Ayn Rand right in her fucking jaw.
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post #12 of 51
3/17/09 at 9:20pm
Beyond that I fail to understand why I need to read a work of fiction to understand a social/political phenomenon.
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post #13 of 51
3/17/09 at 9:41pm
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Beyond that I fail to understand why I need to read a work of fiction to understand a social/political phenomenon.
You don't, but Objectivists treat it like a bible. Which I find funny because it's basically a failure on every level. And not a particularly interesting failure.
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post #14 of 51
3/17/09 at 10:13pm
Bioshock, if you delve into the ideas, has a much more interesting and critical view on objectivists. Yeah, I mean the game.
I have read Atlas Shrugged. Bioshock is far more to the point, and (which is funny since its about an underwater city enclave) its actually more believable.

I think this is just what we ll be seeing a lot from US media in the next months and years. Apparently, they arent really able to grasp the concept of not being needed for catchy smokescreens anymore.
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post #15 of 51
3/17/09 at 10:24pm
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Originally Posted by The Prankster View Post
Yeah, it's hilarious to see how literally no one is actually going Galt, but everyone who buys into this shit is posturing and threatening. Despite the fact that none of them actually contribute anything concrete to society.
It could be this generation's "I'm moving to Canada!"
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post #16 of 51
3/17/09 at 11:15pm
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You don't, but Objectivists treat it like a bible. Which I find funny because it's basically a failure on every level. And not a particularly interesting failure.
You're telling me.

And I quote "You wouldn't try to understand Christianity without reading the Bible, would you Gabe?"

This normally genius level person is an atheist.
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post #17 of 51
3/18/09 at 1:23am
Cross-posted from the Santelli thread because it's relevant:


Objectivism is the glorification of selfishness. Anyone who says it's a good idea is a first-rate asshole.

Funny thing, though: I hope these assholes do 'go Galt' like they threaten to, just so they can be shown just how utterly replaceable they are.
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post #18 of 51
3/18/09 at 1:34am
The idea of Michelle Malkin going Galt leaves me in tears of laughter, and the outpouring of internet wingnut self-righteousness when this idea first took hold was almost depressingly powerful.

"I'm going to stop writing breathless blog posts about the eeevil liberal agenda and you plebeians will finally realize just how much you need me!"

Please, don't keep us in suspense any longer.
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post #19 of 51
3/18/09 at 1:47am
Objectivism is actually very, very close to modern Satanism. I apparently can't make that connection until I read Atlas Shrugged though. Love Bob the Angry Flower.
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post #20 of 51
3/18/09 at 3:27am
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Originally Posted by Gabe Powers View Post
Beyond that I fail to understand why I need to read a work of fiction to understand a social/political phenomenon.
Hell, the Objectivists do not even quallify as a social/political phenomenon.
That being said, sometimes works of fiction do impact political events ("Uncle's Tom Cabin" Comes to mind, as do Dickens novels) and they can tell you an awful lot about the society that reads them.
But reading Ayn Rand is something I would not wish on anybody. I am still amazed I got through Atlas Shrugged. The Fountainhead at times is a decent read but god, Atlas SHrugged has nothing of value.
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post #21 of 51
3/18/09 at 3:48am
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Objectivism is actually very, very close to modern Satanism. I apparently can't make that connection until I read Atlas Shrugged though. Love Bob the Angry Flower.

Best Description of Objectivism I ever heard was it was a sort of Fundamentalist Religon for Athiests.
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post #22 of 51
3/18/09 at 3:51am
What worries me is some of these jerks will go from going John Galt to going Ragnar Danneskjold.
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post #23 of 51
3/18/09 at 4:27am
They'll all become goldielocked fancy-boy pirates!? They wish!

Sad to say, but I actually enjoy listening to Atlas Shrugged as an audiobook. When actually read aloud, it becomes great comedy. It's why I so so so want a movie to be made of it.

That Colbert Report clip was hilarious.
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post #24 of 51
3/18/09 at 4:35am
In response, I have decided to Go Joad. So far I'm just carrying around this turtle.
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post #25 of 51
3/18/09 at 4:46am
If anyone Goes Galt, we can totally torture them with electrocution for fun!
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post #26 of 51
3/18/09 at 5:09am
I hope the door doesn't hit them on their way out. Anyone who takes Rand's insane ramblings as an excuse to justify being a selfish asshole isn't of much worth to a civilized society, anyway.

Captains of finance and industry, my ass. I wouldn't trust them captaining a row-boat, they way they have been performing.
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post #27 of 51
3/18/09 at 10:04am
I wish they'd go John in Brave New World by flagellating and hanging themselves.
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post #28 of 51
3/18/09 at 11:19am
Don't these tards realize by refusing to participate, they will cease to create their own wealth? And that there will be someone to easily replace them?
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post #29 of 51
3/18/09 at 11:38am
The predators at the top of the food chain are always the least essential, and the easiest to replace.

And Anton Lavey actually cribbed quotes from Rand's novels for his Satanic Bible, without crediting her. He actually got a fair amount of shit for it from rival Satanic denominations. They've been plagued by the Randroids for years.
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post #30 of 51
3/18/09 at 11:44am
The best thing about Atlas Shrugged being rediscovered, for lack of a better word, is it makes dating so much easier. It takes a single question to identify a girl as a complete waste of time. All these fucks need to forget Galt, and go Piggy. I'll find the boulder.
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post #31 of 51
3/18/09 at 12:26pm
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Don't these tards realize by refusing to participate, they will cease to create their own wealth? And that there will be someone to easily replace them?
I think they're assumption is they are so talented and irreplaceable that without them nothing would happen. That really, unless Herbert Q. Fuckwit III manages your hedge fund, it'll just fall apart. It's a common thought amongst inbred blue-bloods. You get a lot of the same kind of attitude from people that go to "elite" law schools. They think their Harvard diploma is proof of divine providence in their life. *Snort* I think not.
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post #32 of 51
3/18/09 at 12:31pm
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The best thing about Atlas Shrugged being rediscovered, for lack of a better word, is it makes dating so much easier. It takes a single question to identify a girl as a complete waste of time. All these fucks need to forget Galt, and go Piggy. I'll find the boulder.
Isn't Angelina Jolie a big Atlas Shrugged fan?
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post #33 of 51
3/18/09 at 1:08pm
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Isn't Angelina Jolie a big Atlas Shrugged fan?
Thanks for ruining masturbation, Bendrix. A true friend!
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post #34 of 51
3/18/09 at 1:31pm
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I think they're assumption is they are so talented and irreplaceable that without them nothing would happen. That really, unless Herbert Q. Fuckwit III manages your hedge fund, it'll just fall apart. It's a common thought amongst inbred blue-bloods. You get a lot of the same kind of attitude from people that go to "elite" law schools. They think their Harvard diploma is proof of divine providence in their life. *Snort* I think not.
I agree, unless I need to argue the finer points of a Supreme Court Course. Your Harvard law degree doesn't mean a whole lot in doing a basic real estate transaction.
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post #35 of 51
3/18/09 at 2:20pm
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I agree, unless I need to argue the finer points of a Supreme Court Course. Your Harvard law degree doesn't mean a whole lot in doing a basic real estate transaction.
That was always amusing to me. I went to BU to get an LL.M. in tax, and, unfortunately, I had to interact with the JDs there. Dear god...what a sense of entitlement. I had this one guy go on and on about how the professors at BU were superior to those at other, lower-tiered institutions, because they could really take you through the intricate parameters of "bargain." I told him most of that was academic bullshit, and if you turned in a memo to a partner that contained that irrelevant tangent, you'd probably be horse-whipped. He was nonplussed.

Anyway, back on topic: fuck Ayn Rand.
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post #36 of 51
3/18/09 at 3:10pm
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Thanks for ruining masturbation, Bendrix. A true friend!
Why would that ruin the masturbation fantasy? While you're rubbing one out are you fantasizing about having a philosophical discussion with her, or are you thinking about pounding her from behind while she screams "Daddy!"?

Why would her ideology affect simple fuckability?
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post #37 of 51
3/18/09 at 3:30pm
I think it's a great idea. The world would be a better place if Malkin, Hannity, Limbaugh, Savage, et. al. ceased poisoning the public discourse the way they do.
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post #38 of 51
3/18/09 at 3:34pm
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Originally Posted by Seabass Inna Bun View Post
I think it's a great idea. The world would be a better place if Malkin, Hannity, Limbaugh, Savage, et. al. ceased poisoning the public discourse the way they do.
BUT THAT'S WHAT THE LIBRULS IS TRYIN TO DO WITH FAIRNESS DOCTRINE
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post #39 of 51
3/18/09 at 3:54pm
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The best thing about Atlas Shrugged being rediscovered, for lack of a better word, is it makes dating so much easier. It takes a single question to identify a girl as a complete waste of time. All these fucks need to forget Galt, and go Piggy. I'll find the boulder.
What you date women for the political ideology? What are you gay, and in the closet?
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post #40 of 51
3/18/09 at 3:56pm
Yeah, he should date a chick who thinks like Michelle Malkin and have lots of really violent and angry sex.
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post #41 of 51
3/18/09 at 3:57pm
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What you date women for the political ideology? What are you gay, and in the closet?
I fail to see any logical or semantical connection between those two sentences.

But than again I am replying to you, so that fact alone makes me retarded.
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post #42 of 51
3/18/09 at 3:59pm
"What's the safe word, baby?"

"Universal healthcare."

"OH GOD, YOU'RE SUCH A PIG. TAKE ME NOW."
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post #43 of 51
3/18/09 at 4:49pm
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"What's the safe word, baby?"

"Universal healthcare."

"OH GOD, YOU'RE SUCH A PIG. TAKE ME NOW."
I automatically read the above with HER voice:
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post #44 of 51
3/18/09 at 10:29pm
Given the huge amount of rape in all of Rand's book, she might enjoy the fucking
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post #45 of 51
3/18/09 at 10:59pm
Im actually reading (or rather trying to read) "Atlas Shrugged" right now, while also playing "Bioshock" for the third time...talk about the timing.
I dont have a lot of hate for Objectivism or its creator, though...except for how they turned Steve Ditko into a jerk.
My mother does have a soft spot for "We the living", but i guess its all in my parents background (living through both a Socialist Nightmare and a right Wing Military Dictatorship really builds character, it seems).
Also, I do not agree with the "let em build their own damn place" proposal...I do not want to get drill raped by a diving suit palooka.
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post #46 of 51
3/20/09 at 12:26pm
Matt Yglesias had something very succinct to say about this and I thought I'd pass it along:

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Originally Posted by Matt Yglesias
Atlas Shrugged is a stupid book, Ayn Rand is a stupid woman, and John Galt’s ideas are stupid.
He was reacting to this column:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...columnist_baum
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post #47 of 51
3/20/09 at 12:45pm
From a post today at John Rogers' Kung Fu Monkey:

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There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
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post #48 of 51
3/20/09 at 2:02pm
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From a post today at John Rogers' Kung Fu Monkey:
Haha pure gold.
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post #49 of 51
3/20/09 at 3:14pm
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Originally Posted by Matt M View Post
From a post today at John Rogers' Kung Fu Monkey:
Following that link I found another Rand related article I found interesting.
http://michaelprescott.net/hickman.htm
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post #50 of 51
3/20/09 at 3:36pm
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Following that link I found another Rand related article I found interesting.
http://michaelprescott.net/hickman.htm
Yes, I read that. There's literally no aspect of Rand that upon inspection doesn't creep me the fuck out.
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