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post #51 of 91
Haha!
What with the Bryan Singer shorts and the "What on earth made me think I could talk to you about this!" before flying off in a huff, they're really bringing the gay this week!
post #52 of 91
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Hawkman is going to throw terrorists out of airplanes. Superman goes to Batman to whine about his feelings. And the latter gets printed in USA Today.
post #53 of 91
...Which is sort of what I was saying earlier. If they were going to pick a strip to put in a mainstream paper, why did they choose the one that reads like a laundry list of everything annoying about modern superhero comics? Angsty, cluttered, static, pompous, and with Batman being a grimacing dick for no reason.

Teen Titans suffers from this in the writing, too, but at least the artwork is clear and appealling (even if the visual storytelling is shit).

Wonder Woman is one I want to like, and in theory I applaud Caldwell's decision to cram lots of panels onto the page, but it's really hard to follow. Also, Wonder Woman hasn't been in Wonder Woman costume in two strips.

Batman, on the other hand, is shaping up really nicely. As burnt out as I'm getting on the character, this is nice stuff, fits the format well, evokes the classic 30s and 40s Batman, and has nice, efficient storytelling. And the story, as standard as it seems, is drawing me in a little, so Azzarello & Risso must be doing something right.

Kamandi is the best strip at the moment. This is the one that could have been in USA Today (although the average reader probably wouldn't have cared for the existing Kamandi material). Beautiful, weird, and exciting (and I'm a guy who finds "Prince Valiant" to be an unengaging strip).

Deadman's getting interesting, although Rama Kushna is a standard-issue Unneccessarily Cryptic Comic Deity who apparently refuses to explain things to her agents for no reason.

Green Lantern is making up for lost time after a first strip in which almost nothing happened. (Why not START with the big battle in this strip, THEN move to the diner?) Anyway, it's already moving away from "The New Frontier" while keeping enough of the tone to be tantalizing. Hey, it'd be cool if the GL movie used the mid-50s southwest/Vegas art design the way the Burton Batman movies used 30s styles. The character feels at home there at this point.

Not a lot happening in Metamorpho, though even with a virtual splash page Gaiman still moves the plot forward. And what's with the little fake ad business? That feels like it's going somewhere and isn't just a pastiche, but maybe I'm just projecting, assuming Gaiman wouldn't just ape Haney.

Adam Strange is glorious. It's now jumped past Metamorpho as my #2 strip. I love that it's as much Tarzan as Flash Gordon, and Pope's art makes everything feel fresh and interesting--reminds me a bit of that Omega The Unknown series by Johnathan Lethem from last year, except cooler looking. An amazing mashup of indie and old-school adventure comics style.

Supergirl feels like fluff, but it reminds me how popular I think the character would be with young girls if DC could figure out how to market to them. Amanda Connor's artwork is what sells this.

Actually, ditto Metal Men. Didio's the only writer who feels like he's trying waaaaay too hard to be campy and old-fashioned.

Sgt. Rock annoys me, because the Kuberts are just delivering standard comics pages and not taking advantage of the format.

I love Flash's use of the format, turning it into two strips.

Catwoman/Demon is an interesting matchup, but hasn't taken off yet. (And I still need the Demon to speak in rhyme, dammit. It's my problem and I'll deal with it in my own time.)

Hawkman seems to be confusing a lot of people. Is it a parody, or is it meant to be straight? Seems like the latter so far, but it's Kyle Baker. Who knows.

I still hate the price tag, but I'm getting more jazzed about this. The amount of setup in the first issue made everything feel a little samey, but now the strips are starting to develop individual personalities beyond the art.
post #54 of 91
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At the moment, I'm loving Kamandi, Strange Adventures, and Metamorpho. All home runs as far as I'm concerned. "There's a reason that Metamorpho is the most popular comic book in America!"

I'm iffy on Superman for the reasons stated above. Teen Titans isn't working for me at all. I admire the ambition on Wonder Woman, and this week's installment makes it clear that Ben Caldwell is working a Little Nemo riff, but he's not managing to pull it off.

There's a wide swath in the middle that I like, but could stand some improvement.

Green Lantern has nice art and the story is starting to move forward, but I'm going to need to see some justification for the Happy Hour crowd before this is over. Also, Quatermass Xperiment nod in Week 2?

I'm mostly pleased with Metal Men. Particularly on art. I do hope that the "world doesn't understand the Metal Men" bit doesn't last long.

Supergirl seems to know what it wants to be already. Cute with a punch line at the end of each installment. Closest thing to a humor strip that Wednesday Comics has.

Deadman is moving along. I'm interested in seeing what twist is in store for Boston Brand. I like the page design and Rama Kushna comes off well on the page, even if I agree with the idea that she's too cryptic.

The Demon & Catwoman has to pair these two up pretty soon. Nothing wrong with the strip, but it's in need of more character interaction.

Sgt. Rock is something I want to like a lot more than it's delivering so far. Joe deserves the benefit of the doubt, but he definitely needs to get more experimental with the page before this is over. There's nothing really wrong with the feature, but it's not delivering up to potential.

I'm really liking, although not up to the likes of Kamandi, Batman, Hawkman, and Flash Comics. A solid mystery brewing with Batman and not a panel seems to be wasted. Hawkman is throwing terrorists out of planes and promising to kick more ass while Kyle Baker delivers the best double entrendre of the issue with the title for next week's installment. And I'm finding the two half page features of Flash Comics a load of fun and a nice break from the rest of the book.
post #55 of 91
"Super-prozac"? Yeah, that sounds like Batman.
post #56 of 91
Having Batman be angry and dickish and pick fights for no reason is a sure sign you're in the hands of a hacky modern superhero writer.
post #57 of 91
Yeah, the out of characters comments, the crazy expressions on his face, and that it was day time? It was just off base in so many ways.

Then of course they have the Batman comic on the front page and it doesn't even have Batman in it. That's what you put on the front page? And I like that 100 Bullets artist a lot but a few of those frames of Bruce Wayne made him look pretty retarded.
post #58 of 91
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Yeah, the more I think about that Superman page, the more I hate it. It is everything wrong with modern comics. Maybe that makes it entirely appropriate to show to people in USA Today as a warning.

I don't see the problem with Bruce Wayne being that heavily featured, though. It's not like people don't know who Bruce Wayne is. And, he has some character moments, gathers information, and foils a murder. At least he's doing something.

The more I think about it, the more I smile about Barry Allen vs. The Flash. That's good stuff.
post #59 of 91
My comment was in reference to it being the front page. The first page someone is going to see when they fold open Wednesday comics and think "should I buy this?" and its a Batman comic strip without "Batman."
post #60 of 91
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I know Chiarello decided early on that they're going to have every feature on the same page throughout the run. As an homage to old Sunday sections, if nothing else.

And, heck, while I know where you're coming from, I think Clark Kent and Bruce Wayne need a different standard applied to them.
post #61 of 91
Finally got these and yeah, the Superman strip is really bad.

But damn, Kamandi! Wow.
post #62 of 91
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Thoughts on Week 3


Batman
I appreciate it's a solid mystery with appropriate noirish art. We certainly have a couple of suspects with Batman lurking in the background. I'm liking this very much.

Kamandi
Escape via airship. Dr. Canus makes an appearance. This one is in full gear. The art and Prince Valiant style narration are still working for me like gangbusters.

Superman
You know all those complaints about Superman Returns? They're all valid here. Nothing really obnoxious about this installment, unlike last week, but this really doesn't seem like the proper format for this type of story. Now that Clark has run home to Ma and Pa, hopefully he'll get his head on straight and the pace will pick up.

Deadman
Dave Bullock is consistently doing interesting things with page design and this installment is no exception. This page really recalls the psychedelia of some of Neal Adams work on the character. The art is way ahead of the story here, but I can roll with that.

Green Lantern
O.k. we seem to have the plot threads merging. There's a certain resemblance to the Quatermass Xperiment in the astronaut story. The art is very nice too. We'll see how this goes, but next week the plot should be in high gear.

Metamorpho
Like last week, Neil Gaiman and Mike Allred go for one big image while Metamorpho, Java, and Stagg explore the ruins and we get some hints on the survivor of the previous expedition. Paul Levitz writes in to Metamorpho Fans of America and they tease us of the Metamorpho tv series. I still find this a hoot.

Teen Titans
Looks like they brightened up the color pallette a bit and some story is emerging. Still not a fan, but it's edging towards readable.

Strange Adventures
Paul Pope is unique. And talented. I love this feature.

Supergirl
Slight, but cute and amusing. Who can be mad at a dog that cute? Basically the humor strip of the bunch.

Metal Men
Well drawn. Story is o.k., but that man in shadows needs to emerge.

Wonder Woman
Looks like Ben Caldwell is trying to channel Miyazaki to an extent. It's an interesting take on Wonder Woman. And Little Nemo. It still doesn't quite come together for me.

Sgt. Rock
Still hammering away at Rock. But, Easy is getting involved in the plot as they emerge from the mines. Love Joe's art. The story should pick up soon as we get in the rescue operation.

Flash
Love it. Flash and Barry team up this issue. And head to the future. The top tier for me now includes Kamandi, Strange Adventures, Flash, Hawkman, and Metamorpho.

The Demon and Catwoman
Moving forward as the villain of the piece is introduced. And certainly is ungrateful to Selina. Good art as always, although it really hasn't brought the leads together yet.

Hawkman
This story is in high gear as we have alien invaders in disguise. A mace is still a good solution though. Lots of action. Lots of fun.
post #63 of 91
Superman sticks out like a sore thumb at this point as the wheel-spinning strip of waaaangst. All the others have a relatively brisk pace and, like, stuff happening. All Supe is doing is sitting around moaning.

Deadman was always cool-looking, but now it's beginning to grab me as a plot, too. The idea of Deadman fighting his way through the netherworld could be cool, and it speaks to Kirby's complaint about the character: "How can you have a superhero without a body?"

I loved the multiple-strip format with Iris and the Flash, but I'm glad that we seem to have left her behind for a while. And that we're getting a very Silver Age story.

Green Lantern seems to be alternating one strip where exciting stuff happens to one strip where everyone sits around in the diner. Yeah, I know, alien bug monster, but it's just setup.

Wonder Woman is frustrating because the art is great, the Little Nemo homage is cool, and I like Caldwell making full use of the layout, but it's just ridiculously cramped and incoherent.

I want to see an entire Supergirl series with Connor on art. I know I'm getting boring about this, but if DC could find a way to deliver this kind of thing to young girls instead of hiding it in comics shops, they'd clean up.

Metamorpho is the one most clearly designed towards eventual collection. Which makes me wonder how they're going to do that--an oversized TPB? How many features would be in each collection? To put them all in together would produce an oversized, 180-page book, which could be prohibitively expensive. Anyone heard about this?
post #64 of 91
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I was listening to the podcast of the Wednesday Comics SDCC panel over at DC's website. Interesting bits I picked up.

Apparently Paul Pope and Brian Stelfreeze are the laggards as far as getting pages in. Chiarello didn't seem especially worried about it though. Kyle Baker apparently finished his pages in 2 weeks.

Initial orders for the first issue were 48K, although DC printed 58K. DC went through the 10K in reorders, so it seems to be on solid footing. I'd expect a sequel unless sales completely tank.

Since we talked about pricing uptopic, apparently, newsprint is more expensive than normal paper these days. And artists are getting double page rates due to the size.

It seems Chiarello thinks of it partly as Solo 2.

Allred basically says expect the big splash pages to change into something else. Apparently one page is a version of snakes and ladders. And two pages feature the element table, with Metamorpho changing into every element. (I so want that in chemistry books.)

Kurt Busiek wants to do The Witching Hour if there's a sequel and he's invited. Jimmy Palmiotti wants to do Jonah Hex.
post #65 of 91
Pope's Adam Strange is the one I can't keep my eyes off of. Hawkman as well. Both are the two I look for the first.

I was wondering as well how they will ever collect these. Just not going to work shrunk down.
post #66 of 91
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Pope's Adam Strange is the one I can't keep my eyes off of. Hawkman as well. Both are the two I look for the first.

I was wondering as well how they will ever collect these. Just not going to work shrunk down.
What kind of collections did DC do for the Paul Dini/Alex Ross collaborations? I can't imagine anything smaller than that working. I suspect that if they want to keep the price down, we won't have all 15 features in one book, but maybe three separate volumes. Gaiman/Allred obviously have a collection in mind as weeks 2 and 3 will form one big image. Weeks 8 and 9 supposedly will form the table of elements.
post #67 of 91
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With Week 4, I can say that Superman is still a big wasted opportunity, wallowing in angst with nothing happening.
post #68 of 91
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Thoughts on Week 4


Batman
Well, I can kind of see why this feature might not have been the best choice for USA Today with this week's offering. I'm enjoying the mystery and I think Azzarello is feeding us enough information week to week to keep the story moving at a decent pace. Risso's art is excellent.

Kamandi
What's there to say? Ryan Sook is knocking it out of the park.

Superman
ZZZZZ.

Deadman
Nice action scene. Nice page design. Wish there was someone other than Boston Brand to care about though.

Green Lantern
I'm sure Busiek has a decent story here with all the building blocks he's been busy putting into position. It's not doing all that much for me on a week to week basis though in the meantime.

Metamorpho
Evil element men have crazy eyes. Back to normal storytelling. Still a hoot.

Teen Titans
I don't know why I should care about Trident. Totally forgettable feature.

Strange Adventures
Glorious.

Supergirl
Amanda Connor stated that she wanted to make the feature disgustingly cute and adorable at SDCC. She's succeeding.

Metal Men
Didio laid on the exposition extra thick here. This thing better not take place all in a bank. No complaints about Garcia-Lopez's art though.

Wonder Woman
I haven't buckled down to read this one yet. Maybe it will grow on me.

Sgt. Rock
O.k., I'm interested in the photographer. I get the hunch that before this is over it will be as much about the photographer as about Sgt. Rock.

Flash
We now have something like three Flashes running around this feature thanks to time travel. Some nice twists and turns. This is just fun.

The Demon and Catwoman
I guess it's finally Demon and Catwoman. Sort of. The art is fine, although the story isn't exactly gripping.

Hawkman
One of the highlights of the book for me again. Looks great. Fast moving. And Kyle Baker is making sure that Hawkman kicks all kind of ass.
post #69 of 91
I was pretty "meh" on it this week. Kamandi and Strange Adventures remain terrific, and Supergirl was amusing, but otherwise even the best strips seemed to be spinning their wheels this week. I realize that even the most brilliant writers ever are going to have trouble making every single page gripping, but still, that was sort of how the original adventure strips used to work. Busiek in particular doesn't get it at all. he's just telling a 12-page Green Lantern comic. Same with Didio.

Except for Teen Titans, Superman, the always-incoherent Wonder Woman, and the "let's just draw a standard comic page and blow it up" Sgt. Rock, the others are all perfectly fine, but they don't really grab me unless they're doing something clever with the format or introducing new elements. Which almost none of them are this week.

I feel like a lot of these are going to improve when I can read the entire series in one gulp. But it can't be a good sign that I've frequently forgotten what happened the week before.
post #70 of 91
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I know where you're coming from. A lot of features this week read as "and we wrap act I". I agree that many of the features read like they're part of a 12 page structure rather than reading fine on their own. Green Lantern and Sgt. Rock being the worst offenders of the bunch.
post #71 of 91
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Here's a question, anyone know if the size of Wednesday Comics is hampering scanners?
post #72 of 91
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Week 5 of Superman

They retell part of his origin. With the only real new twist that apparently they're now wearing superhero costumes on Krypton.

I'm seriously wondering if I'm selling Teen Titans and Wonder Woman short compared to this. At least stuff is happening in those two strips.
post #73 of 91
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Thoughts on Week 5


Batman
No way the mystery can be that simple. Looks like Bruce is/has gotten blindsided.

Kamandi
I'm glad people are digging Kamandi. It would have been easy to have just chosen already famous characters. The Hal Foster illustration style is just an inspired touch.

Superman
Lee Bermejo is the only thing separating this from the worst feature. Heck, as much as I knock Titans at least stuff is happening.

Deadman
Good plot twist as the #1 limiting factor in most Deadman stories is that he's completely invulnerable. Nice page design as always.

Green Lantern
I don't think Kurt Busiek is taking good advantage of the week to week format. That said, I'm enjoying the story and art.

Metamorpho
Humor. Action. Chemistry. This installment was firing on all cylinders.

Teen Titans
It's creeping up into the readable range. I think they've been adjusting the color. Still pretty forgettable though.

Strange Adventures
I'm glad so many people are getting to see how awesome Paul Pope is.

Supergirl
It's tough to say much about this strip. It's consistent. Cute and light.

Metal Men
Bela Pretorius gets a smile out of me. Dan Didio actually has some writing chops.

Wonder Woman
Seems like they brightened up the coloring some this week. I'd call it one of the stronger installments and I liked seeing a new take on the Cheetah. Still awfully busy and somewhat muddled, but noone should complain about a lack of ambition or not getting enough story in each installment.

Sgt. Rock
I'm not sure this was the best format for this story either. The elements are in place for a fun second half of the story, but not enough has happened in the first half. At least we have some despicable villains here.

Flash
Interesting twist on Flash's powers. There's been enough twists and turns from week to week. To me, this feels the most like a Silver Age story of the bunch, with big high concept ideas being tossed at us at a regular rate.

The Demon and Catwoman
Nice progression on the story as we're getting a glimpse of the villain's plot. Good art. Still, I'd like to see Selina AND Etrigan interacting.

Hawkman
Big spectacular plane rescue sequence. There's a visceralness to the plane crash that's absent from the Supergirl feature (appropriately). It's a welcome change to read a Hawkman story as straightforwardly action oriented as this one. And a Hawkman I like.

Overall, I think it's one of the stronger issues. We're into Act 2 and the stakes are being raised across the board. The problem strips are improving. Well, except for Superman, but the art has always been good in that one.
post #74 of 91
I don't even think Superman's art is that good. Highly detailed, yes, but static and uninteresting.

Kamandi and Strange Adventures are particularly gorgeous this week. Deadman and Metamorpho both regained my interest after drifting a little. Metamorpho in particular is great for being every bit as insane as its Silver Age namesake. I'm actually starting to think I'd like to see Gaiman do a larger, Supreme-style project that filtered the Silver Age a little more specifically through his own sensibility; in a sense it could be more mythological fuel of the kind he's always riffing on.

Supergirl was about a thousand times more exciting in this entry than the entire run of Superman. Flash is starting to confuse me a little, though--weren't they in the future a week or two ago?

Wonder Woman is just utterly incoherent. It's not just that the panels are small, it's that you can't understand what's going on in them. It's a shame, because I like Caldwell's art.

I just realized: we have two strips in this book with characters whose powers revolve around chemistry. That seems a tad...redundant.
post #75 of 91
Already finding I don't really care so much about this, only reading a few of them and thinking I'll get back to the others. Wonder Woman was the first one I stopped reading.
post #76 of 91
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I don't even think Superman's art is that good. Highly detailed, yes, but static and uninteresting.

Kamandi and Strange Adventures are particularly gorgeous this week. Deadman and Metamorpho both regained my interest after drifting a little. Metamorpho in particular is great for being every bit as insane as its Silver Age namesake. I'm actually starting to think I'd like to see Gaiman do a larger, Supreme-style project that filtered the Silver Age a little more specifically through his own sensibility; in a sense it could be more mythological fuel of the kind he's always riffing on.

I just realized: we have two strips in this book with characters whose powers revolve around chemistry. That seems a tad...redundant.
I'll agree that Bermejo's static realism isn't adding anything to the story, although the primary problem is the script. It would be fine if Superman was actually doing something, but there's nothing to enjoy but Bermejo's technical skill otherwise. Oh, look, a barn, isn't really exciting. Heck, Amanda Connor had fun with an overturned mail truck.

Yeah, a Gaiman Silver Age project could be fun.

We also have two plane rescues, two strips with bug aliens, and three strips with gorillas.
post #77 of 91
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I liked Wonder Woman this week. Probably because it didn't have 50 some panels. There's some good ideas in Caldwell's story and he seems to have gotten to a place where the story can breathe some.

Stuff actually happened in Superman and Sgt. Rock too. Green Lantern is still the laggard, but next week seems to be promising. And it looks like the Metal Men are out of the bank finally. And Morgaine Le Fay shows up in Demon & Catwoman.

The good stuff is still good. Metamorpho was particularly fun this week. Grodd comics, brought a smile to my face.

Teen Titans still isn't doing anything for me. Even the revelation of Trident doesn't make me care any.
post #78 of 91
Holy shit! Stuff is actually happening in the Superman strip! Boggle!

I agree, Wonder Woman is much more coherent this week, and I like the new take on Etta Candy.

Metamorpho is insane in a wonderful way. Who would have thought that Neil Gaiman would be the one writer who could come closest to approximating the weirdness of the silver age? Not to mention the one obviously trying hardest to do something inventive with every strip.

Hey, did you know the new Blue Beetle is Spanish? Because he is! Cucaracha! He is a Spanish man! Enchiladas! If you don't like it, you deserve naranjas en la cabeza! Por favor, donde este el banos? Dos equis! Una candalabra precarioso!

Pope makes even what should be a filler strip look and feel awesome.

Aquaman's appearance ought to be cutesy and annoying, yet somehow it isn't. Well, OK, it's cutesy.

The faux-romance Iris West strip was neat at first, but they should have ditched it earlier. This is still a great use of the format, though.

I assume that's the Kirby design for Morgana Le Fay in Demon? Stelfreeze nails Kirby's feel better than just about any artist I've seen.

Green Lantern continues to waste time.

Batman is all about the execution. This strip feels a little padded, storywise, but it's well done enough that I don't care.

I'm...not feeling Hawkman, sorry. Not a knock on KB, but this feels rote, when I know he's capable of much more entertainingly weird stuff.

And finally, Kamandi rules the universe.
post #79 of 91
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Hey, for the second week in a row, there's actually action in the Superman strip. Maybe there will be some redeeming the feature in the second half.
post #80 of 91
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Thoughts on Week 7

Batman
Classic interrogation scenario. And twist to the mystery. Again, just a well crafted installment..

Kamandi
What superlatives are left? The strip has been firing on all cylinders since the beginning and is progressing in nice big steps.

Superman
What, an action packed installment? Someone pinch me to make sure I'm not dreaming. I still think the first half of the feature was totally misjudged, but looks like there's going to be an explanation and action in the second half.

Deadman
Now that's a nice page design. I don't believe the explanation for a minute, but I can see Boston Brand falling for it. In it's own way, this is a noir story as much as Batman.

Green Lantern
Glad we've finally gotten to the central conflict. Nicely drawn as always and a good initial confrontation.

Metamorpho
I'll say more after I get the Latin translated. Between Stagg's flirtation with Element Girl, it must run in the family, and Java at the end, that's a pretty well paced installment.

Teen Titans
Trying to care. Failing.

Strange Adventures
Dr. Fate! I never saw that coming. True to Dr. Fate's roots with its H.P. Lovecraft influence. A Dr. Fate dream quest is an idea that needs to be done.

Supergirl
I enjoyed the take on Aquaman. And, as always, Amanda Connor tucks enough cute stuff in the background to really have fun poring over the art.

Metal Men
Perfectly fine. Not great, except the art, but fine. Just wish they'd get out of the bank.

Wonder Woman
Switching to a vertical storytelling format and cutting down some on the number of panels has worked, ahem, wonders for this strip. It's turning into something I'm really enjoying.

Sgt. Rock
I'll never not like a Joe Kubert drawn Sgt. Rock story. However, I certainly do wish it was progressing in bigger bites every week.

Flash
This strip is insane. I don't know how many versions of the Flash are here now, but I love it for the sheer ballsy Silver Age high concepts its throwing out there.

The Demon and Catwoman
Morgaine le Fay is a naughty woman. Lots of leather, right. Glad Selina's back. The art is very good as Stelfreeze really captures a combination of Kirby and Simonson in his art.

Hawkman
Yeah, Kyle Baker tipped his hand a long time ago about Dinosaur Island. That makes this installment kind of a placeholder. Still well drawn.
post #81 of 91
I didn't know the dinosaur island stuff was coming, so Hawkman really started to click with me this week.

I think Batman really benefits by being the first strip. It's sort of an appetizer before the main course starts with Kamandi.

Deadman: Hey Kids! Mysogyny!

I like Supergirl a lot, but making Aquaman into a huge dick (and Supergirl not being able to figure out that he only talks to, y'know, fish) is pretty off-putting.

As cool as his appearance is, I almost wish Dr. Fate wasn't in Strange Adventures. There's a certain purity to the strip so far that would be better served without crossovers. Plus, as you say, Dr Fate's Dream Quest could easily be a story of his own (well, putting aside that they sorta did that in 52). It's actually interesting that some of the strips are getting to a point where I wish they had more room to explore some of their ideas, whereas some of them seem to be labouring to fill 12 pages.

I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE Stelfreeze's take on Kirby's designs. He actually makes Morgana (Morgause?) look kinda threatening, and definitely sexy, despite the absurd design.

I'll say this for Metal Men: Didio realizes there needs to be a big cliffhanger in every strip.

OK, there had better be some huge payoff to Hal having known this astronaut guy in the past, justifying the two-page flashback. Otherwise it was just wasting time we could have been monster-fightin'.
post #82 of 91
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Thoughts on Week 8

Batman
I guess after last week, there's no point in trying to point to another suspect. Amused by the Army of Darkness quote.

Kamandi
This really feels epic. Looking forward to seeing how this all wraps up.

Superman
Kind of blah. While I appreciate the fact that we've apparently seen the end of mopey Superman, I don't think this page does enough.

Deadman
Frankly, I think that sigil stands for "Sucker". This has been a nice and consistent feature.

Green Lantern
I think this is clearly Busiek's best week. I felt that it felt like a complete story with setup, middle action, and payoff with a what happens next element. That's a really nice GL image too on the bottom left.

Metamorpho
It's clear that Neil Gaiman is about having fun with the page more than he is telling a story. I'm fine with that. It's the activity page equivalent. Snakes and ladders. My wife and I spent some time last weekend translating the Latin. I'll pull out the periodic table this weekend to take a look at it.

Teen Titans
What's the hook for this story? Why should I care? An editor who misses this badly on fundamental questions raises all sorts of red flags.

Strange Adventures
Alanna finds some allies. Like Kamandi, this is setting up for a big, epic confrontation. I was amused by the choice of how to present Alanna's diplomacy.

Supergirl
Yeah, this is the comedy strip. I've seen that look on a cat before.

Metal Men
Yeah, Didio does remember to have a cliffhanger every week. And they actually leave the bank this week.

Wonder Woman
This is very clearly the most improved strip. I like Caldwell's take on mythology.

Sgt. Rock
O.k., I'm amused by the safety bit. I'm not sure what precisely Rock's plan was there. We got a new cliffhanger, so things are moving forward.

Flash
Definitely feels like we're transitioning to third act territory here. Kerschl mixing panels is working for me.

The Demon and Catwoman
Kind of meh, this week. I'm kind of off put by Selina crying out for help.

Hawkman
O.k. the big fight is setup. Looks like it's going to be a fun one.
post #83 of 91
Kind of a "more of the same" week, except for the first part of Gaiman's awesome periodic table thing. I definitely think that experimenting like this is the right tack to take with this format.

Kamandi is indeed the most epic strip (in the time that Superman's spent moaning and visiting his parents and the Metal Men have foiled a bank robbery, Kamandi's fought a fucking WAR).

And I realize what I'm loving about the art on Strange Adventures: it uses the intimate linework and exaggerated expressionism of an indie book, yet somehow manages to convey classical, immersive, sweeping Alex Raymond/Hal Foster style visuals. Fantastic.
post #84 of 91
In some ways I wish WB/DC would use this as a springboard for how to work some of these properties in other formats such as cartoons, or even a series of trades. I would love to see a yearly GN from Gaiman of Element Man.

And I will keep up the fact I could look at Pope's artwork all day. Very interested in Battle Boy since he recently said on Twitter:

Quote:
Cleaning my studio having finished Strange Adventures. The reference materials for Battling Boy are pretty much the same--same tone, vibe

1930s strips (Roy Crane, Caniff) and 1970s french comics (Moebius, JC Mezieres), Crepax's Valentina, Kirby's Thor and 4th World.

Manga: Egawa Tetsuya and Kenichi Sonoda for staging & dramatic action, Junichi Nojo for compositon. Also Suehiro Maruo's incredible manga.
post #85 of 91
For those who have enjoyed Pope's work, here is a preview of his Inhumans from Strange Tales

I find it strange how much I am looking forward to Wednesday Comics. Been a long time since I read a strictly superhero piece of work.
post #86 of 91
Thread Starter 
Thoughts on Week 9

Batman
Azzarello and Risso are a well oiled machine. We'll see the emotional sucker punch soon.

Kamandi
This is epic. Great, great feature. Gibbons and Sook are going to stick the landing on this one. This transcends its origins.

Superman
I think Bermejo does some really nice things with the page this week. Doesn't change the fact that Superman is basically explaining things for a whole installment. It's been firing on like half its cylinders since week 1.

Deadman
We're moving to a conclusion. I'm fully expected a noir twist for our "Dearly Departed Detective" who's a bit slow on the uptake that dames might not be telling him the truth. Nicely laid out page as always.

Green Lantern
If this is the payoff for Busiek's two week flashback to astronaut training, it's a disappointing one. Things are moving forward though, the art is nice, and I think Busiek finally has a grasp on the format.

Metamorpho
I'm having a lot of fun with this page. Yeah, it's no Sandman, but it's clever and fun. And Java is both amusing and in need of a punch in the face.

Teen Titans
I just don't care. The art is o.k., for what it is, but the story is a misfire. The worst strip of the project, without question.

Strange Adventures
Like Kamandi, epic in scope. Some weeks I like this better, some weeks I like Kamandi better, but Paul Pope has been telling a very entertaining story in his own distinct style.

Supergirl
Kind of a filler this week setting up the finale. Things are moving ahead, though. Amanda Connor is hitting the cute and adorable button as reliably as ever.

Metal Men
The rallying cry before the final battle. I really like Garcia-Lopez's outside scenes and I'm looking forward to the conclusion. It's been slightly erratic from week to week, but its reach hasn't really exceeded its grasp.

Wonder Woman
This is more than merely improved. It's leapfrogged into one of the best strips of the last few weeks. The first few weeks are still an ambitious muddle, but Caldwell has managed to fit in a big dreamquest, reimagine a couple of WW's foes and supporting characters, update the mythology angle, and draw a young, appealing Diana. It's finally catching up to its ambitions. I don't know if this was the best format, but it's a story well worth telling, IMO.

Sgt. Rock
I hope that there's some final emotional coda to this. I love Joe Kubert so I have no problem. But, this week should feel like some sort of tragedy and I don't think I ever got to know the characters well enough to feel much of anything.

Flash
Probably more than any other strip, this one feels like it's observant of the actual comic strip page. We have some various amusing asides, told in reference to several distinctive comics, as we are shown Barry and Iris's courtship while Grodd's plans move forward.

The Demon and Catwoman
I don't know if I have much to say. The story is fine, the art has been good with Stelfreeze really doing a nice job with Kirby's characters, but there hasn't been anything about the strip that's really grabbed me.

Hawkman
Kyle Baker has been building up to this fight for a while. The last panel of the book is a classic. That's the way to get the blood pumping for next week.

Best of this week.
Kamandi
Flash
Wonder Woman
Strange Adventures
Hawkman

w/ Batman & Metamorpho close behind.
post #87 of 91
Thread Starter 
I've been hard on John Arcudi, but at least he's written a pretty decent cartharsis moment this week as Superman gets to really pound on some aliens. Lee Bermejo is the one I'd take issue with this week by including a totally unnecessary erect nipple on Supergirl. Considering it's a memory, apparently the Arcudi/Bermejo Superman is a perv. Way to go guys, whiney mopey Superman to Superman the angry perv.
post #88 of 91
Thread Starter 
I'll have more to say later, but I'm pleased with Kamandi and Strange Adventures bringing their stories to a successful climax, although Strange Adventures has got to end with "The End?" with Korgo.

With the end in sight, even the problem strips have gotten their act together, for the most part. Well, except for Teen Titans, which even at this late stage continues to introduce characters with no explanation. Uninteresting characters at that.

An issue with Hawkman talking smack to a T-Rex is almost automatically a winner.
post #89 of 91
Superman defeats aliens with his origin story? What the hell?

Also, I like that he's carefully explaining to the aliens how their own biology works.
post #90 of 91
Thread Starter 
Thoughts on Week 10

Batman
Not reinventing the form. But again, a finely crafted little segment that feels complete in itself. Batman corners Luna and deals with her dogs.

Kamandi
Kamandi gunning down gorillas. Lions with machine guns. A big rescue and the death of the big bad. That's a climax. One of two strips that I think transcend the format.

Superman
Some satisfying action this week, marred by a small but noticable choice on Bermejo's part to sex up Supergirl in the wrong situation. Nice montage design of memories though by Bermejo.

Deadman
Another story that appears to be reaching its climax, as Deadman uses his acrobatics and wits to defeat the big boss demon. Nice page design as always and I think they have a good take on Boston Brand. I think there's one more penny to drop though.

Green Lantern
Nice callback. Good art. Busiek finally seems to have a firm handle on the format. The emphasis on flashbacks and Happy Hour in the first half prevented a lot of momentum from being built up, but this is a solid story with

Metamorpho
Not quite the big reveal, but the villain shows up. And a treasure hunt has been upped as the fate of the world is now at stake. I've been just rolling along with the sheer joy of the feature. Sure, it's not Neil Gaiman showing off all his story telling chops, but it's fun.

Teen Titans
This is a bad feature. Introducing another character, with no explanation, in the 10th chapter? And Eddie Berganza is an editor? This is a trainwreck storywise, full of uninteresting characters, little focus, no hook. It's just bad.

Strange Adventures
The second strip of the bunch that I'd call transcendent. It's influenced by Infantino, E.R. Burroughs, Alex Raymond, and Heavy Metal, but it's pure Paul Pope.

Supergirl
Setting up the ending. Still cute, but nothing too compelling this issue.

Metal Men
Dan Didio will win no awards, but it's a fine feature. This issue speaks of self sacrifice by the Metal Men. With the heroism implicit, even if they are only robots. Nicely drawn as always.

Wonder Woman
Moving towards the climax. It's been improving by leaps and bounds and looks like it's going to end on a high note. If the reach has exceeded the grasp for this script, there are a ton of good ideas for how to approach Wonder Woman in it and I've found the latter half of the strip to be one of the most satisfying on a weekly basis.

Sgt. Rock
Moving efficiently towards the end at this point. I wish Andy was doing more to challenge his Dad, but it is what it is. I'm glad for the genre mix though.

The Flash
Perhaps the best strip two weeks in a row. Pay attention people, this is how page layout can comment on story. If they can bring this one in for a landing, this could be the third feature I'd call transcendent. And it's a pure Barry Allen story.

The Demon & Catwoman
Just not quite clicking for me. Stelfreeze's art is fine. I don't think Walt Simonson can be accused of too much wheel spinning. The whole seems less than the sum of its parts though.

Hawkman
Hawkman smacks a T-Rex. Hawkman talks smack to a T-Rex. Hawkman gets smacked around by a T-Rex. Comics don't come any more pure than that. Fabulous end to an issue.

Best This Week
Flash
Kamandi
Hawkman
Strange Adventures
Wonder Woman
post #91 of 91
Thread Starter 
My delayed thoughts on Week 11.

Batman
Another solid vignette. Love the dogs slinking away.

Kamandi
The boy can't get a break. Still great.

Superman
Talk, talk, talk. Superman has gone from mopey to Basil Exposition. Bermejo is doing a good job, but the script's a loss.

Deadman
Yup, the other penny dropped. Good wrap up, with just the coda to go.

Green Lantern
That's a great page. Quinones knocked it out of the park. Love the flying Dolorean.

Metamorpho
A fun climax. Sure, it's no Sandman, but it's trying to be a Silver Age throwback and succeeding.

Teen Titans
Deathstroke showing up helps a little. Not enough to save this mess.

Strange Adventures
Yup, a strange coda to the story. Looks great.

Supergirl
Now the they have to wrap up the plot, a lot of the humor has disappeared.

Metal Men
Good climax. Well drawn. Nothing special but fun.

Wonder Woman
Again a nice satisfying installment. Looking forward to the conclusion.

Sgt. Rock
Rock's a tough S.O.B. They need to stick the ending for this to really work, no matter how good Joe's work is.

The Flash
This is a transcendant strip. Perhaps the best Barry Allen story ever.

The Demon & Catwoman
Art - good. Story - not memorable.

Hawkman
Fun again. Aquaman shows up in a different feature. Being awesome this time.

Best This Week
Flash
Kamandi
Strange Adventures
Green Lantern
Batman
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