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post #51 of 271
Hey, thanks for the tips, guys.

I came in 7th out of 70 people last night at the free bar tournament here (winner only got $75). Still, I improved quite a bit over the last time. At least I got to the final table.
post #52 of 271
Joey, another important thing is to always know exactly why you make each bet, and have a pretty good idea of what you will do if called or especially raised. A lot of beginners find themselves making bets where they aren't really sure if they're bluffing or protecting a weak made hand or what. There are two parts to this:

1) Your bluffs should come in two varieties. Semi-bluffs, where you go all-in with a decent draw. You're hoping they just fold, but you still have a chance to win if not. The rest should be stone cold, where you have absolutely nothing, and leave yourself room to fold if raised. What you don't want to do is be bluffing with weak draws or pairs and find yourself in a position where you have to give up your stake in a big pot with a hand that has some value. Poker's a complicated game, and I cannot overstate the value of keeping your decisions simple.

2) Recognize when a hand, even a very good one, only has value as a bluff-catcher. A classic example is when you've flopped a big hand like a set or a straight and a potential flush draw comes in. This makes the board scary, and if the pot is small, most opponents aren't going to be calling many big bets unless they have you beat. Another example would be if there are 2 pair on board, and you have one of the smaller one in the hole. If you're opponent bets into you, raising your full house has no value; almost everyone will be folding any hands that you can beat (and thus the bet brings you no benefit) and calling/raising when you're losing.

When making any bet, ask yourself, what am I hoping to accomplish? Do I want to fold everyone out, to gain information about my opponent's strength, or to get action and build a pot? If it's the last one, what kind of hands could they feasibly have that would call, and what kind of threat does that pose?
post #53 of 271
The table is created and currently accepting entrants:

Premiere Chudament
#153361737
Sunday, April 5 at 20:00 ET
password: astronaut
post #54 of 271
I'm in. Anyone who's interested click on "Tourney" and go to the far right tab that says "private". It was the only one when that appeared when I signed up.
post #55 of 271
You can also hit Ctrl+T and paste 153361737 into the dialog box.
post #56 of 271
Just signed-up. Let the battle for the Chewer(s) Poker Supremacy begin!

*Shout-out to James.
post #57 of 271
Damn. 10 pm start time on a Sunday? I might catch the next tourney.
post #58 of 271
10 pm? It's 8, at least for our time zone.
post #59 of 271
I could blame the alcohol, but really I can't convert the 24 hour clock.

Uh, is it PokerStars.com or .net? Does it matter?
post #60 of 271
.com

If you're making an account for just this, Div, then I'll make it easy and give you the five bucks to play tomorrow.
post #61 of 271
Man, I'd love to play. Pretty sad I can't even afford that measly buy in right now.
post #62 of 271
What's your screenname?
post #63 of 271
Balmudo
post #64 of 271
I'm in (GoGoShipIt).
post #65 of 271
Quote:
Originally Posted by Schwartz View Post
Joey, another important thing is to always know exactly why you make each bet, and have a pretty good idea of what you will do if called or especially raised. A lot of beginners find themselves making bets where they aren't really sure if they're bluffing or protecting a weak made hand or what. There are two parts to this:

1) Your bluffs should come in two varieties. Semi-bluffs, where you go all-in with a decent draw. You're hoping they just fold, but you still have a chance to win if not. The rest should be stone cold, where you have absolutely nothing, and leave yourself room to fold if raised. What you don't want to do is be bluffing with weak draws or pairs and find yourself in a position where you have to give up your stake in a big pot with a hand that has some value. Poker's a complicated game, and I cannot overstate the value of keeping your decisions simple.

2) Recognize when a hand, even a very good one, only has value as a bluff-catcher. A classic example is when you've flopped a big hand like a set or a straight and a potential flush draw comes in. This makes the board scary, and if the pot is small, most opponents aren't going to be calling many big bets unless they have you beat. Another example would be if there are 2 pair on board, and you have one of the smaller one in the hole. If you're opponent bets into you, raising your full house has no value; almost everyone will be folding any hands that you can beat (and thus the bet brings you no benefit) and calling/raising when you're losing.

When making any bet, ask yourself, what am I hoping to accomplish? Do I want to fold everyone out, to gain information about my opponent's strength, or to get action and build a pot? If it's the last one, what kind of hands could they feasibly have that would call, and what kind of threat does that pose?
That's so funny you mention that, because it's EXACTLY what got me out. And I knew I was making a mistake, but the fact that it was "play money" (i.e. no buy in) got the best of me and I'd been successful at stealing pots all night.

I wanted to hedge the upcoming large big blind I was going to have to fork over because I had one of the lowest chip counts at the table.

Of course, I had NOTHING (4 and 9, non-suited) but the way everyone was playing it should have been easy to make them think I had something good. The problem was I was the second person to bet, and so everyone just called because they had the chips (and great hands as it turns out). Up to that point, I had only been trying to steal pots when a few people folded (and I at least something decent).

Ah well, another lesson learned. I've been improving a great deal each game.
post #66 of 271
I have no problem sending established chewers the 5 bucks to play the game if they don't have money on the site. I'm just going to take it right back from all of you anyway, right?
post #67 of 271
Man, it looks like a process to start up an account.

I'll let you guys know if I'm in a little later. A friend of mine is bartending tonight, so a bunch of us may go and keep her company. If I end up not going, I'll play if there is still room at the table.
post #68 of 271
I'm in.

I Matches I be the name.

ETA: I forgot Bank of America makes it incredibly difficult utilize internet poker websites, so never mind!
post #69 of 271
I gave up on line poker I am just not lucky. I mean the good thing about my luck is it can't get worse. I do better in live games. My read ability is really, really good it can make up for the bad luck, even so with my luck, I am not a tournaments player. I am a strait up live cash game player. My luck is so bad I can't even play the top ten hands, I lost at least half of them, and I may only get a couple in 6 or more hours of play.
post #70 of 271
Cordo, I can transfer you the $ if you need.

Event 8: $33 NL Hold Em
Runners: 20353
Finish: 12288

Meh. Didn't get any action on the two big hands I got over 2 and half hours. Went out when some boner called my preflop raise with 96 offsuit and flopped a straight.

Result: -$33
post #71 of 271
I have an errand or two to run in a few minutes but I should be back by eight, and if I am I think I'll take you up on that offer. Hopefully I'll either lose it all back to you, or win enough to give it back because I'll feel pretty bad if I lose someone else's money.
post #72 of 271
Signed up. There goes more than half of my online bankroll. Screen name is Pete Zha.
post #73 of 271
Crap, I lost track of time. Gonna sit this one out, but definitely in for next time. Good luck everyone.
post #74 of 271
Darn. A few minutes late and registration was already closed. Thanks for staking me the $5 Schwartz, I'll lose it back to you next Sunday if we play again. It could be CHUD poker night.
post #75 of 271
Event 9: $320 NL Hold Em
Runners: 6274
Finish: 2815

I had high hopes for this one, and managed to get in for about $75 in satellites. My table was vicious, with professionals and TeamPokerstars members (and 2008 World Series champion and runner-up, respectively) Peter Eastgate and Ivan Demidov sandwiching me. I ended up getting crippled when someone shoved in with A9 against my AK and drew out. Overall I'm pretty disappointed with my performance so far. Despite being up a little bit, one cash in 8 events doesn't sit well with me. I have my work cut out for me next weekend, I guess.

Result: -$75
post #76 of 271
Only really interesting hand I played: http://www.pokerhand.org/?4074755

I made such a bad call on the river here, don't know why. But Micah played the hand like a champ.
post #77 of 271
I'd have a hard time laying down a pair of queens too. But sometimes its useful to call people, especially early on, to see what type of player they are.
post #78 of 271
Three Chewers left... it's all-out war!
post #79 of 271
(to Diva) Well, I know Micah's good, which pretty means he won't lead into that board twice and not have second pair demolished. Especially when he's betting such a small amount on the river.

You know what, raising would have been better than calling on the river. He'd fold most of the time (and I have the Ace of hearts so I know he can't have the nuts.) O, hindsight!
post #80 of 271
2nd place. Not bad. All in with trip 5 and other player had a full house with 8's & 5's. Good game all - it was fun.
post #81 of 271
Who won?
post #82 of 271
Justin/Kevin/Pete won.
post #83 of 271
Screen-name Pete Zha took it down. GREAT WIN BTW.

EDIT: Name of winner.
post #84 of 271
Go Matchstick! It's karma for saving that turtle.
post #85 of 271
Justin killed it. Congrats, sir.
post #86 of 271
Was fun. Was happy to make off and make out (later) with the cash. I was card rich. And, as usual, my skills were dynamite.
post #87 of 271
Event 10: $162 Heads Up Matches
Runners: 2048
Finish: 986

Wasn't expecting much from this one, as heads up play is about as far as I can get from my wheelhouse, which is long, massively multi-table events. I normally wouldn't put down this much money on an event that played against my strengths, but after my crushing defeat in the premiere Chudament last night, I saw the final table of a $109 tournament and came out of the day with $2K and change in profits. So what the hell.

I made it past my first opponent without much fuss. The second match only lasted about 10 minutes, however, which was enough time for my opponent to make trips, 2 straights and a full house, while I....hmmm, I think I made a pair of 6s at one point, but I'd have to check the hand history. I gave away the last of it on a bold (that's poker-talk for "stupid") ace-high bluff on a very scary board, telling myself "no way he has it again" as he showed up not with the 1-card straight that I was representing, but that darn full house.

Result: -$162
post #88 of 271
I went into the 25/50 cent fixed tables and worked up the six you gave me to 13, so I can transfer that back to you whenever.
post #89 of 271
At your leisure. The name is "Suede Lars0n" (with a zero, not an "O"). It originated from a stoned debate in college about what the coolest name on the earth was. This was before I knew of Robert Z'dar, obviously.
post #90 of 271
Event 11: $16.50 NL Heads Up Matches
Runners: 8192
Finish: 555

2 cashes in 11 events is not exactly what I was hoping for, but it's better than 1.

I made short work of my first 2 opponents, but the third was actually pretty decent. Still, I managed to bluff him out of a big pot after I bricked a combo straight/flush draw. Then I picked up 88 against his 66 and it held up all the way. The fourth match drug on for over an hour, with both us trading leads. Finally, I flopped a pair of sevens against his tens. The turn gave me kings up, but also gave him a flush draw that came in on the river. All in all, not too much cash to show for it, but I feel pretty good about the result and relish the chance to practice what I consider a weak facet of my game.

Result: +$14.22
post #91 of 271
I was registered and looking forward to this, but it stormed Sunday and I just got the internet up and working again. This is the worse service I've ever had- if it rains just a bit, I lose the internet.
post #92 of 271
Event 12: $530 NL (6 max)
Runners: 1714
Finish: 883

6 handed games aren't my strongest area, but with the kind of prize pools the SCOOP is drawing, I'm taking a shot at about anything. I didn't get much to work with the whole time, eventually picking up 99 when I was short-stacked, which seemed like a great place to shove all-in preflop. Unfortunately, the big blind woke up with aces and ended my tournament.

Result: -$530

Event 13: $55 NL (6 max)
Runners: 8301
Finish: 1031

This was a surprisingly tough field for such a large, relatively low buy-in event (unless I was just drawing bad tables). I wouldn't be upset with my performance at all, except that I think my decision to gamble on the last hand may have been somewhat influenced by the thought that if I lost right then, I could at least focus on Lost when it started in a few moments.

Result: +$25.14
post #93 of 271
Event 14: $44 8-Game
Runners: 2178
Finish: 451

This is a revolving game that shifts from 2-7 Triple Draw (a somewhat absurd but fun game), 2 variants of hold em (limit/no limit, and 2 Omaha (limit H/L and pot limit high) and 3 of 7-card stud (high, low, high/low split).

These are mostly limit games, so once I lost a couple pots, I couldn't really push anyone out of hands, and had to rely on cards. I hate when that happens. After having an incredibly promising Omaha draw miss in a huge pot I came a little short of the 390th payout.

Result: -$44
post #94 of 271
Event 15: $320 Stud
Runners: 344
Finish: 219

Stud's not my game, but I thought I'd try it out. I ran hot early, which is always a horrible sign, and about 3 hours in I ran big 2 pairs or trips into rivered straights/flushes 3 hands in a row. Sucks because it's a limit game, so you can't chase away drawing hands like that even if you want to.

Result: -$320

Event 16: $33 Stud
Runners: 1592
Finish: 540

Feeling pretty down on the whole thing right now. Hate to think I peaked so early with the 2nd event. Couple more days to turn things around.

Result: -$33
post #95 of 271
I just did a 180 person NL tournament. I placed 47th, but I had a pretty decent stack (I was in the top twenty when I went out). It was a crazy three way hand where we all had cards but I got one-upped on a flush thanks to the river. Not too bad for my first one.

ETA: Just finished 17th in a $12/180 person NL tournament. Cash was like $23 or something like that I think.
post #96 of 271
Thread Starter 
I'm about to deposit $100 into my PokerStars account. I want in on some of this action.
post #97 of 271
If you're going to play the 20 table sng's, just keep in mind that it's all about making the final table. Don't get discouraged, tournament poker is always going to be a lot of small, frustrating losses and the occasional big score. Just play every game for first place, and let the rest take care of itself.
post #98 of 271
Thread Starter 
I've played waaaay too much online poker in my lifetime. I was way up at one point on Bodog playing PLO, before giving most of it back. I know this will sound like sour grapes, but I've lost so many hands in so many ridiculous ways online that I'm almost convinced that the whole thing is rigged somehow.

I started playing on PS about a year ago and have never had any traction. I'd deposit $100, maybe run it to $500 or $1000, then give it back. The only reason I continue to play online is because I don't have a casino or a consistent game near where I live...and I have a gambling problem. And now I have the urge again.
post #99 of 271
I stopped playing on Bodog for the same reason. Too many insane hands.
post #100 of 271
Quote:
Originally Posted by bob loblaw View Post
I've played waaaay too much online poker in my lifetime. I was way up at one point on Bodog playing PLO, before giving most of it back. I know this will sound like sour grapes, but I've lost so many hands in so many ridiculous ways online that I'm almost convinced that the whole thing is rigged somehow.

I started playing on PS about a year ago and have never had any traction. I'd deposit $100, maybe run it to $500 or $1000, then give it back. The only reason I continue to play online is because I don't have a casino or a consistent game near where I live...and I have a gambling problem. And now I have the urge again.
I turned to the $6 Schwartz gave me into almost $200, and lost it all on one hand last night. I had a flush, and he had two pair, but then caught a full house on the river. It was an all in situation so it was that much more discouraging.
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