Fascinating to hear him speak(after only knowing him through his printed words). I can generally see and, more importantly I think, embrace his points.
I'm not quite on board with his reasoning on Africa. It still feels a bit 1880 to me.
And for what it's worth, I think he'd do well to accompany all of the (arguably tempered) optimism with the clear understanding that things are still FUCKING AWFUL in too many places on the planet. Particularly Africa.
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Originally Posted by JuddL 
Frankly, post WWI and WWII, even without the statistics this seems prima facie plausible.
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Isn't it possible that someone could have convincingly made Pinker's argument in 1903? After all, they didn't call it World War One in 1918.
Don't get me wrong. I've never bought the "noble savage" concept. It's naive and distracts from the more important point of the damage colonialism and missionary efforts have truly done over the last few hundred years. Nor have I ever understood the past to be some idyllic Shangri-La of simple living, simple values and engendering some symbiosis with our environment.
Near Pinker's book on my shelf(by coincidence, it happens) is a personal favorite of mine,
"The Good Old Days...They Were Terrible"
, Otto Bettmann's tribute to the insidious nature of sentimentality.
Despite my yearning to see "just how it was", I would never have traded being 10 in 1980 for any other time in history. I made it out of my teens without losing any fingers in factory machinery, without being turned into a starch collared anti-progressive, without scars from nasty bear attacks, without being drafted off into some far-flung adventure, without being collaterally damaged by some god-awful civil war, without having to eat a few of the other travellers in my party.
While I do see people's unctious rugrats now as being pampered like little fucking Sun Kings, I can't really complain. Actually, when they make it to their 20s and 30s without the advantage of having lived outside their socially retarding safety bubbles enough, they'll get the picture. Wait, did my grandfather say that too?
