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post #51 of 196
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Originally Posted by TURBO-1984 View Post
Heads up for bargain shoppers:

Target has each cd for $11.99 (not sure if that includes the White Album) and you get a $5 gift card for every two discs you purchase.

With the gift cards paying for a couple of them, I'm hoping to pick up 8-10 of the 14 discs.
Sweet. Thanks for the heads up. I looked at Targets website this morning to see if they had any deals going for them but they didn't have the albums listed, not even as "Coming Soon"
post #52 of 196
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Originally Posted by Paul755 View Post
Sweet. Thanks for the heads up. I looked at Targets website this morning to see if they had any deals going for them but they didn't have the albums listed, not even as "Coming Soon"
Yeah, its in the weekly ad.

The ad says that you can choose from 14 so it looks like they will stock the entire collection.
post #53 of 196
Can we use this thread to discuss the remasters we buy? How they sound, favorite songs, etc.?

Beatles For Sale sounds great. Lennon's most dominant album? I think so. "I'm A Loser", "No Reply" sound fantastic. As does the vocals on "Mr. Moonlight". (Allmusic calls that song perhsaps the worst thing they ever recordeed. Anyone agree? I love it)

"Honey Don't" is mixed beautifully. As is my fave track on the album, "What You're Doing".

That's all I've absorbed so far.
post #54 of 196
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Originally Posted by Fat Elvis View Post
"Mr. Moonlight". (Allmusic calls that song perhsaps the worst thing they ever recordeed. Anyone agree? I love it)
Worse than "Wild Honey Pie"? Hardly.

It's an odd choice for a cover, no question, but Lennon sings the living hell out of it.
post #55 of 196
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Originally Posted by Jeb View Post

It's an odd choice for a cover, no question, but Lennon sings the living hell out of it.
Yeah, I get chills at the acapella beginning.
post #56 of 196
When word originally came out of these remasters, I decided to hold off on the boxset and just buy them piecemeal over an undetermined amount of time, maybe one a month or so, rather than dropping $200 all at once. Last Friday I placed an order through Amazon for some odds and ends, and threw Sgt. Pepper and Revolver into my 'lil virtual shopping cart. Just now my wife phoned me to say she stopped in at Best Buy to exchange my kid's camera and they had The White Album and the Remasters CD out, so she picked them up. Now, what, when I go to Best Buy tomorrow for RB I'm not going to buy at least one? Especially since they are enticing me with a crappy t-shirt bundled in with Abbey Road and Rubber Soul (for a fee, of course)?


I should have just bought the fucking set.
post #57 of 196
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Originally Posted by Fat Elvis View Post
Yeah, I get chills at the acapella beginning.
I've long contended that, if Lennon isn't the greatest rock and roll singer of all time (he's certainly my favorite), it can be argued that he was the first true "rock and roll" singer.

By the time The Beatles began recording, he had so thoroughly absorbed his influences that he's not singing country, blues, or r&b; he has none of the stylistic tics of those forms. In particular, his desire to top even the enormous volume of the Beatles' recordings (by comparison, the early Stones albums sound like they were recorded over the phone) was radically different from most blues/r&b singers who, from Junior Parker to Mick Jagger, are at their best when holding something back, never getting too far on top of the music.

Lennon would have none of that, and if the sound of the music was big, he insisted on being bigger. No one before him had ever captured so perfectly the way that the sheer exhilirating volume of rock and roll can celebrate pain and pleasure in equal doses. There is so much emotion spilling into his singing that even something like "Twist and Shout" takes on a depth way beyond anything the Isley Brothers could have dreamed; only Little Richard could approach him, and Lennon had him beat six ways to Sunday in terms of the range of emotion his voice could convey.

Bon Scott certainly took a lesson or two.
post #58 of 196
The dopey organ solo in Mr Moonlight is pretty embarrassing, but otherwise I don't think it's that bad. For Sale might be their most overlooked album in general, so far as such a thing as an 'overlooked' Beatles album can exist. The original songs were probably their best yet and some of the covers are great as well, especially Lennon doing his throat shredding thing again on Rock and Roll Music. Love the album cover photo as well.

Wild Honey Pie is also fine, if only for enabling the ass kicking Pixies cover version.
post #59 of 196
Abbey Road sounds amazing. And it's my favorite album too!
post #60 of 196
I'm pretty bad at noticing things like the differences between old and remastered versions. I probably won't notice something like the increased power in Paul's bass. Maybe subconsciously but I can't remember details in a song like that.
But I'm a huge Beatles fan and I'm starting to get swept up in this.
I'd really love to know, is it that big of a difference? Enough to drop hundreds of dollars?
post #61 of 196
Anyone know if they're releasing these via ITunes or did that fall through?

I'll probably end up getting the stereo mix, not sure I can hold out until the mono's are released.
post #62 of 196
If you've only really heard the White Album through the 80's compact disc, this remaster is a fucking revelation.
post #63 of 196
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Originally Posted by Dax View Post
If you've only really heard the White Album through the 80's compact disc, this remaster is a fucking revelation.
Jesus, I just got chills! I'm a huge fan, I'm debating about whether or not to get these since I have everything already, but now I'm getting all wiggy, reading what you guys have to say.
post #64 of 196
I'm hoping I get this for the holidays but as I went to pick up Beatles: Rock Band today, I couldn't leave the store without getting the remastered Abbey Road.
post #65 of 196
Ok I heard The Continuing Story Of Bungalow Bill on the radio and holy hell did it sound good. The White Album and Abbey Road will be mine. I shouldn't have doubted the hype!
post #66 of 196
During a quick search at K-Mart, I couldn't find A Hard Day's Night & Help. Resisted Sgt. Pepper's. I wanna work up to that.

B & N is holding With The Beatles + Please Please Me for me. ("She was just 17, you know what I mean"...what a way to kick it all off!)

My car has six speaker surround, and "Rock N Roll Music" sounds simply amazing! As does "Every Little Thing"
post #67 of 196
Ordered the stereo box from Borders. Too good of a deal with the 30% off coupon. But the wait for it to ship is going to KILL me.

So I'll go get Beatles RB later today to soothe the pain a bit. It's all too much, indeed.
post #68 of 196
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Originally Posted by Pop Zeus View Post
In many of the tracks, the separation has all of the vocals or the drums all in one channel. In certain cases, they are using a different vocal take instead of the original release. Its slightly jarring as you're listening to them on headphones.
It is REALLY noticeable on the Past Masters remaster but it stll sounds pretty great.

Nice seperation of the instruments and the bass guitar and bass drum sound amazing.
post #69 of 196
Having now purchased and listened to Rubber Soul, Revolver, Magical Mystery Tour, Sgt. Pepper and Abbey Road... believe the hype. It's revelatory.

Sgt. Pepper, in particular, is like listening to the album for the first time.

Got $10 in Target gift cards, too, which are going towards the White Album this very evening.
post #70 of 196
I've been listening to Magical Mystery Tour all day on constant loop. Love.
post #71 of 196
I work at a Target in Los Angeles. Our sales are in the top 5 of the company. We barely got any copies of the discs today. 20 for each of the bigger titles, 10 for Meet the Beatles and Beatles for sale. Since we are down the street from the Capitol building, a rep stopped by. He asked if we were carrying the boxes. I told him no and asked just how limited they were. H said the run for the mono box was 15,000 and the stereo box was 60,000. He said the runs were so small that employees of the company weren't allowed any. My point being, if you see one, buy it.
post #72 of 196
Anyone encountering stupid young people who are completely unaware of who the Beatles were and dismiss their music or the release? I've had a couple of arguments with friends about it...
post #73 of 196
hot damn, I need these...ALL OF THESE... The White Album will be mine tomorrow!
post #74 of 196
Bought all 14 at Target after not finding the boxed set at Best Buy or Target. Got me 7 Target gift cards (and saw one guy playing and singing along to Beatles Rock Band all by himself at Best Buy...it was kinda sad.)

Listend to Abbey Road on the way back to work but only got as far as Octopus' Garden. My god it's all so crisp and vibrant. It truely is like hearing the album again for the first time. I can't wait to pop in the others.
post #75 of 196
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Originally Posted by Tati View Post
Anyone encountering stupid young people who are completely unaware of who the Beatles were and dismiss their music or the release? I've had a couple of arguments with friends about it...
See, I think that's just people who are ignorant, not people who are just young, Tati. Because I have nieces and nephews as young as 15 who absolutely love The Beatles. You're young, you love them, right?

The lesson here is - you can never be too young to appreciate The Beatles, but you can be too stupid to appreciate them, no matter how old you are.
post #76 of 196
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Originally Posted by LisaNY View Post
you can never be too young to appreciate The Beatles, but you can be too stupid to appreciate them, no matter how old you are.
Fuckin-a.
post #77 of 196
Anyone in ATL should head to CRIMINAL today. They have quite a BEATLES shindig going - plus all BEATLES remasters are $9.99 each.
post #78 of 196
Got the mono box set from my record store yesterday, as well as Abbey Road, Let It Be and Past Masters. No need for Yellow Submarine because the mono set includes that album's four unique tracks on their version of Past Masters. Since I traded in a ton of stuff, I didn't pay a cent for the box set, and I had frequent buyer points built up from the last year that I've been going to them, so I got the other three for cheap. Sweet deal.

Help! and Rubber Soul include the stereo mixes (not sure why, exactly but I'm down). I definitely have to say most of the mono mixes are superior but I might pick up The White Album stereo remaster because I find myself liking both versions equally, they are vastly different though. One that stuck out on Help! was "Ticket to Ride" - it's like a new song. The clarity on this stuff definitely matches up against some of the vinyls I have with Abbey Road being the easiest to compare since it's the same mix.
post #79 of 196
God I forgot how much I love 'Its all too much'. People always go on about the popular George tracks but it's criminal that one never gets any love. I love the way the feedback seems to play throughout the whole song. It's like 'My Bloody Valentine' in a really good mood.
post #80 of 196
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Originally Posted by P-3 View Post
Anyone in ATL should head to CRIMINAL today. They have quite a BEATLES shindig going - plus all BEATLES remasters are $9.99 each.
Absolutely. Picked up Hard Day's Night, Rubber Soul, Revolver, Sgt. Peppers and Abbey Road for myself. Please Please Me, Magical Mystery Tour and Past Masters are next.
post #81 of 196
Got 'em all except YELLOW SUBMARINE, BEATLES FOR SALE, and WITH THE BEATLES. Holy hell am I broke. But hearing "A Day In The Life" made it worth it.
post #82 of 196
I was never a huge Beatles fan, but this set might make one of me.
post #83 of 196
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Originally Posted by Lead Salad View Post
No need for Yellow Submarine because the mono set includes that album's four unique tracks on their version of Past Masters.
I really wish they'd done the same for the normal Past Master sets. Yellow Submarine is the one awkward 'completists only' oddity in their catalogue, and I don't really want to shell out for it just to hear Hey Bulldog and the George tracks. But also it would make Past Masters a better compilation - as it is it's a pretty good chronological journey through their development as a band, but because all the 67-era non-album stuff ended up on Magical Mystery Tour there's a conspicuous lack of stuff from that period. The Yellow Submarine tracks would fill that gap nicely.
post #84 of 196
For me Past Masters is worth it alone for 3 songs...Day Tripper, The Ballad of John and Yoko and the good version of Revolution (I hate the slow verson on the White Album) I like the German language versions too.

And yeah, Yellow Submarine is more of a completest thing. But I was already buying 13 so what was 1 more.
post #85 of 196
Yellow Submarine was already remastered this decade. The previous edition sounded great, so it should definitely be the last thing bought if ast all). As said, "All Too Much" is one of their great overlooked songs.

I picked up A Hard Day's Night + Help. Both title tracks never sounded better. "I Should Have Known Better", "Things We Said Today" "Any Time At All", "I've Just Seen A Face", "You're Goninf To Lose That Girl", "You've Got To Hide Your Love Away" all have stand out mixes, that to my ears have never sounded better.
post #86 of 196
Picked up the stereo box set, and after a couple days of listening, I find it to be most delightful. Hell of an upgrade from 1970's era vinyl. Haven't heard some of these songs since maybe the late 1980's. Color me happy.
post #87 of 196
Is it just me or did Revolver not improve at all in the remastering? Every other album I listen to has varying levels of greatness, but on Taxman we still have drums, guitars, and vocals all in the left channel?!
post #88 of 196
It's just a remastering, they haven't changed the stereo mixes at all. This is unfortunate because Beatles stereo mixes are for the most part horrendous. Sticking the entire rhythm section in one ear and the vocals in the other? Great idea guys!
post #89 of 196
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Originally Posted by Fritz Chrome View Post
It's just a remastering, they haven't changed the stereo mixes at all.
Are you sure? I think they did, radically, in some places.
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post #91 of 196
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Originally Posted by Fat Elvis View Post
Are you sure? I think they did, radically, in some places.
He's right, the new releases are just re-masters, not re-mixes.

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Engineer Allan Rouse: The "Yellow Submarine Song Songtrack" was a ‘remix’ which required going back to the original multi-track tapes and recreating a new stereo (and 5.1 surround for the film soundtrack). In the same way as the “Anthology” and “Help!” DVDs were created, along with “Let It Be… Naked” and “LOVE.” The re-masters are made from the original Sixties mono and stereo master tapes, and because of this, do not allow for the changes that can be made when mixing. Therefore, the improvements that occur with the re-masters are: vastly improved digital technology (since their first release on CD in the eighties); in addition, new technology has allowed us to remove or improve technical faults with the recordings, for example bad edits, tape drop outs, sibilance etc. Noises that were part of The Beatles’ performances such as breaths, lip noises and squeaky bass drum pedal were left alone. Finally, EQ has been used where appropriate to enhance the sound.
http://www.examiner.com/x-2082-Beatl...tles-remasters
post #92 of 196
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Originally Posted by Lead Salad View Post
Help! and Rubber Soul include the stereo mixes (not sure why, exactly but I'm down)
This was included because those two albums where remixed when The Beatles catalog were remastered back in the '80s. This release allows you to hear the original stereo mixes as they were released not the stereo versions that are now "The Official" stereo releases.
post #93 of 196
Just picked up Revolver, Abbey Road, Sgt. Pepper's, Rubber Soul, Magical Mystery Tour, and White Album.
post #94 of 196
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Originally Posted by MrMushnik View Post
He's right, the new releases are just re-masters, not re-mixes.



http://www.examiner.com/x-2082-Beatl...tles-remasters
I stand corrected. Guess I'm imagining more of a change than in actuality. And considering, as some reviews state, you can hear things (like the tip of Ringo's drumsticks on cylinder during "Helter Skelter), it almost feels like a remix.
post #95 of 196
I can't afford the set, but this podcast has me wondering if I'd prefer the mono mixes over the stereo versions:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=112652937

Regardless, I'm going to just buy the stereo versions over time and I'm going to enjoy them, damnit.
post #96 of 196
The guy interviewed in that podcast is right, the guitars on Revolver sound amazing. Also, I've never heard the subtle cowbell in the chorus "Taxman" before the remasters.
post #97 of 196
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Originally Posted by Matt M View Post
The guy interviewed in that podcast is right, the guitars on Revolver sound amazing. Also, I've never heard the subtle cowbell in the chorus "Taxman" before the remasters.
There is a Walkin/Ferrell/Cowbell joke in here somewhere...I just know it.
post #98 of 196
Y'all know The Stone Roses' album was just reissued, right?*
post #99 of 196
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Originally Posted by Fritz Chrome View Post
I really wish they'd done the same for the normal Past Master sets. Yellow Submarine is the one awkward 'completists only' oddity in their catalogue, and I don't really want to shell out for it just to hear Hey Bulldog and the George tracks. But also it would make Past Masters a better compilation - as it is it's a pretty good chronological journey through their development as a band, but because all the 67-era non-album stuff ended up on Magical Mystery Tour there's a conspicuous lack of stuff from that period. The Yellow Submarine tracks would fill that gap nicely.
Yeah, I was really glad for it, though admittedly there's a ton of overlap with the mono masters and stereo past masters, I still got it for the few songs unique to it.

Someone earlier in the thread was worried about the compression problems we're all so well aware of, Pitchfork posted some images that prove we don't have a lot to worry about - http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/...o-box-in-mono/ The quiet/loud levels are still intact. The peaks are at a higher intensity because the volume has been turned up, but the ratio remains very close.
post #100 of 196
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Originally Posted by deepfix View Post
This was included because those two albums where remixed when The Beatles catalog were remastered back in the '80s. This release allows you to hear the original stereo mixes as they were released not the stereo versions that are now "The Official" stereo releases.
After a quick read through of the booklet that came with the set I found this out...I was totally unaware George Martin remixed them for the CD releases. Does anyone know why he only did it for these two albums in particular?
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